Again you are being presumptuous. You don't know what went into the testing and development to be calling for someone to be fired. Stop deflecting. I specifically called out that it was presumptuous for you (an arm chair designer) to be calling for someone to be fired from their job.
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iTunes 12.4 Update to Feature Minor Redesign With New Sidebar, Improved Navigation
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The products have gone down the toilet across the board, they are well documented, why not put someone else in charge of this? I'm not being presumptuous, it's common sense.
You're being presumptuous. It might not be anyone's fault or it could be everyone's fault. You are just calling for people to be fired but don't know why. The data from user testing may have shown that the people they tested with had a strong pref for the design as it is now. The product owners are ultimately responsible for the product but you are calling for designers to be fired. Also if it can be shown that anyone else would've made a similar decision based on user testing and data available to apple at the time, then it's no longer a grounds to be firing them. That's why you're being presumptuous. You don't have all the facts of how the current iTunes application came into being in the state it is in now. That is indisputable. Therefore, presumptuous.
Please tell me again how you hate all the iTunes UI changes:
iTunes 1.0:
iTunes 12.3.3:
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iTunes 1.0:
iTunes 12.3.3:
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I can't believe they simply gave this away to Spotify :/
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You can still hide the sidebar:
Does anyone else remember when you could open more than one window in iTunes? This they need to bring back!! ...but, the UI has been horrible for a long time. It's easier to navigate Amazon Prime video than iTunes movies, TV etc., along with the many other issues they have.
iTunes needs a complete overhaul, not just these minor adjustments!!
iTunes needs a complete overhaul, not just these minor adjustments!!
Please tell me again how you hate all the iTunes UI changes:
iTunes 1.0:
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You can still hide the sidebar:
The core experience of iTunes is not just appearance, there are factors such as functionality, behavior, use cases, number of clicks required, bugs, non-persistent UI, sorting order, navigation style, views, new media types, intuitiveness, etc which can be as important if not more than how iTunes looks in a screenshot or at first glimpse.
Screenshots tell a tiny part of the story, there is so much more than just appearance, that's where Apple is failing, they tried to hide the sidebar to make it appear like it's simpler, and all they are doing is hiding the dirt under the rug.
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I could complain for days about iTunes, but I'd be far less likely to scream if it didn't take actual minutes to update metadata for videos. What the hell!? It's just updating the library file with titles, artwork, etc. It takes less time to copy 10 GB of information to my HDD.
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Liked this so much I had to mention it in a post.
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I'll have you know I love that app's design. I still use it (v1.1.2).Let's not forget one of the last apps Scott Forstall's team gave us was the horrendous podcasts app:
iTunes became and more[sic] bloated years ago. It's a little unfair to blame UI designers when they have an impossible task (and yes iTunes has its own team of software engineers and UI designers). They also had an impossible task with Apple Music, which is probably why it's getting a redesign only one year later.
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What a mess it's been, and why I've held on to 10.7! I truly do hate when Apple takes software that works just fine, then messes with it, makes it more complicated, often involving extra steps (ala Windows), and even removes some essential functionality. To me, it seems like there's a pool of developers & programmers who feel they must keep doing more & more, just to justify their employment, whether it makes for a better user experience, or not.
It was so much better "back in the day", smoothly functional, intuitive, and even the onboard Apple Help pretty much answered most questions we would have. Now, even after searching the "knowledge base" and forums, it's sometimes near-impossible (and a horrendous time-waster) to find answers to even simple questions (like explaining what each preference option entails)......
It was so much better "back in the day", smoothly functional, intuitive, and even the onboard Apple Help pretty much answered most questions we would have. Now, even after searching the "knowledge base" and forums, it's sometimes near-impossible (and a horrendous time-waster) to find answers to even simple questions (like explaining what each preference option entails)......
For me iTunes is a nightmare. Buggy and slow.
I am lucky if home sharing works right off without restarting the service again and again.
I am lucky if home sharing works right off without restarting the service again and again.
I wish I could go back and use 10.7 (since that was before they added most of the stuff I don't want), but alas, by MacBook shipped with 10.9 (which I'm still using.) If only one could combine the lower-level efficiency improvements from 10.9 with the rest of 10.7...that would be great.
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While you can't turn the light off, you can choose the option to "ignore" whatever problem is causing the light to blink and return it to steady green.
Yep. I used to let my AppleTV run for months without rebooting, now it's every other night because either home sharing can't find it or the ATV decides to freeze up. I end up usually hard resetting the ATV and restarting iTunes.
I'd go back several iTunes versions if the co-dependance to iDevices and their newer iOS version wouldn't force me to upgrade.
Buy 1 piece of newer hardware and Apple's eco-prison forces you to upgrade everything else.
You can bet they are bringing back just so they make sidebar to have a section for your music and the rest entirely devoted to ping, beats 1, apple music and radio!
I'm sorry but apple has lost the plot when it comes to music software, i fear for what they are about to do to iTunes next.
I've gone back to storing music in folders these days and using NAS etc to serve it to me instead of iTunes.
I'm sorry but apple has lost the plot when it comes to music software, i fear for what they are about to do to iTunes next.
I've gone back to storing music in folders these days and using NAS etc to serve it to me instead of iTunes.
Why not just implement tab browsing like in modern web browsers?
Using iTunes in a single window is like still using an old Internet Explorer 6 today...
Tab workflow works pretty good for years, why is it so hard to realize that iTunes should implement it too?
Using iTunes in a single window is like still using an old Internet Explorer 6 today...
Tab workflow works pretty good for years, why is it so hard to realize that iTunes should implement it too?
- Middle-click to open playlist/new search/For you/etc. in a new tab
- Cmd+T to open a new tab with a search omnibox and list of your playlists,
- easily interrupt your current browsing flow by hitting Cmd+T any time
- just hit Cmd+T and type to search
- with tabs, easily have multiple search results and switch between them
- easily get back to your previously interrupted work/search/music browsing by closing the tab (Cmd+W), or switching to the older tab.
- Duplicate the tab
- Navigate the tabs back and forth
- drag tabs away to separate it to a new window
- easily manage your library with multiple windows opened side-by-side
- do you have long playlists and want to rearrange them? open the same playlist multiple times on different scroll positions.. again, you need multiple tabs/windows to do it...
- do I need to go on?
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How do you do that? It's only because it's not connected to the Internet, it backs up fine.
New sidebar? Hardly...I'm just glad the old features that made iTunes great are coming back. I've hated using it since they 'redesigned' it.
It's not even lipstick, it's a surgical mask to cover the mouth. The pig is still there, now people just question its sanity.