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I need it. I actually prefer to OWN the things I pay for. I understand that this generation is cool with renting or leasing, but I’m not. Ownership of anything is going away. No bueno.

I totally agree with you. I have over 300 Gigs of music done up into playlists, separated into itune folders. I also still use my ipod nano 8gig black and have been using it for nearly a decade. Also you have to take into account that Apple music has different rights regarding streaming music for different countries. Even over the years my itunes store has lost records, but since I purchased them before they disappeared I still own them, where as if I was using apple music and the rights were not renewed for my country I lose that content.
 
I have a problem with my iPad and it crashes every 6 months or so, i usually reset it with iTunes for Windows, will it be possible if iTunes gets cancelled ?
 
Lmao even when presented with the perfect opportunity to fix this mess, they still manage to make it worse. Update/backup your iOS device? Use the "Music app." Watch movies? Use the "TV app." Sync TV shows to iOS? Use the "Music app." Are they even self-aware at this point?
 
I will miss iTunes, but it's been a long time since iTunes has been good as a "jukebox."

Folks that manage large offline music libraries should check out Swinsian. It's a fully native macOS app for music management and playback.


Thanks for that info. ITunes, as an offline music storage program, has been slowly made more and more unfriendly over the years. Been half-heartedly looking for another possibility.
 
I use it to backup devices and restore to new device during upgrades. iCloud backup/restore isn't nearly as seemless and takes MUCH longer for large backups

I do as well. I can download an IOS to my IMac and install it after the entire update had downloaded. This was very important when my top internet speed was supposedly 3mb but I was lucky to get 1/4 of that speed. I could try downloading overnight or while I was at work and I didn’t need to have the device physically hooked up while downloading, I could still be using it. Considering the number of times the download failed the download to the computer option was the only reliable way to update.

And when Apple quit offering OS updates on CD’s my frustration with downloading the Mac OS grew considerably, until it allowed you to download first then install later. I know of a lot of areas and communities that I want Apple Engineers and upper management to live in and see how well their products work when your internet connectivity is really bad, really slow, or both.
 



While it was initially reported that iTunes would live on in macOS 10.15, it now looks like the app will be retired, over 18 years after it was introduced by the late Steve Jobs at Macworld on January 9, 2001.

iTunes_logo_retired.jpg

Apple will be replacing iTunes with standalone Music, TV, and Podcasts apps in the next major version of macOS, expected to be unveiled at WWDC 2019 next week, according to Bloomberg's Mark Gurman:This information lines up with a recent report from 9to5Mac's Guilherme Rambo, who claimed that iTunes will be renamed to "Music" on the Mac. In other words, iTunes is going away and will be replaced by the new Music app, which is expected to become the new utility for syncing and managing Apple devices.

Steve Jobs quote from Apple's press release about iTunes in 2001:Here's what iTunes looked like in 2001:

itunes_2001.jpg

iTunes has attracted its fair share of criticism over the years for being bloated software, so its split into dedicated Music, TV, and Podcasts apps will be much welcomed. Earlier this week, leaked screenshots provided us with our first glimpse at what the Music and TV apps should look like on macOS 10.15.

Apple is widely expected to announce iOS 13, macOS 10.15, watchOS 6, and tvOS 13 at its WWDC 2019 opening keynote on Monday at 10 a.m. Pacific Time. MacRumors will have live coverage of the event on our website and through MacRumorsLive on Twitter, so be sure to follow along for the latest updates.

Article Link: iTunes Expected to Be Retired After Over 18 Years
[doublepost=1559324476][/doublepost]The 2001 interface is *so* much better than the current user-patronizing clustermess.
 
Sooner or later... Phone Pad Watch Mac MacBook MacPro MacBook Pro Music Podcasts Photos TV TV+
 
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You may be doing the smarter thing if you were only paying $0.99 a month for a single song, but that also means you’re only getting 12 songs a year added to your library. I’m paying for the family plan, mainly because my kids were typically buying at least one album a month (that was through my account), so it made more sense to rent monthly for me.

And you can download songs / albums / playlists to allow off-line playback as an Apple Music user - it’s not just a streaming service accessible while online. What I’ve found, as has my wife, is that we’ve expanded what we listen to significantly because it’s part of the package to try bands, songs, albums we’ve not heard before. I’ve also been having some fun downloading some of the albums I used to listen to growing up - most of which were either vinyl or cassette tapes that were lost or destroyed decades ago.

In your case with a family plan, it sounds like a great way to go!

I may switch over to streaming at some point, but there’s nothing motivating me at the moment. The main time I listen to anything is while driving, and lately I either listen to NPR or one of a couple of great local public radio stations I support.

I’ve got a huge music library, it’s infrequent that I find something else I want - usually something really great and unusual I hear on public radio.
 
Nobody needs iTunes anymore.
Apple Music is everything. As long as there's a Mac app that interfaces with Apple Music then everyone will be good.

One doesn't need an app to interface with Apple Music. There are now 2 websites which do the same:

Musish.sh

And one other one whose name/url escapes my memory.
 
Sounds like Android. :troll: :D :p

I don't understand the mass storage issue. All you have to do is download an app that allows this like VLC or Documents. Once those are installed all you do is open up iTunes and then the iPhone symbol. Then click the app your using and it will have a button to import and they can be any type of file or you can simply click, drag, and drop.
 



While it was initially reported that iTunes would live on in macOS 10.15, it now looks like the app will be retired, over 18 years after it was introduced by the late Steve Jobs at Macworld on January 9, 2001.

iTunes_logo_retired.jpg

Apple will be replacing iTunes with standalone Music, TV, and Podcasts apps in the next major version of macOS, expected to be unveiled at WWDC 2019 next week, according to Bloomberg's Mark Gurman:This information lines up with a recent report from 9to5Mac's Guilherme Rambo, who claimed that iTunes will be renamed to "Music" on the Mac. In other words, iTunes is going away and will be replaced by the new Music app, which is expected to become the new utility for syncing and managing Apple devices.

Steve Jobs quote from Apple's press release about iTunes in 2001:Here's what iTunes looked like in 2001:

itunes_2001.jpg

iTunes has attracted its fair share of criticism over the years for being bloated software, so its split into dedicated Music, TV, and Podcasts apps will be much welcomed. Earlier this week, leaked screenshots provided us with our first glimpse at what the Music and TV apps should look like on macOS 10.15.

Apple is widely expected to announce iOS 13, macOS 10.15, watchOS 6, and tvOS 13 at its WWDC 2019 opening keynote on Monday at 10 a.m. Pacific Time. MacRumors will have live coverage of the event on our website and through MacRumorsLive on Twitter, so be sure to follow along for the latest updates.

Article Link: iTunes Expected to Be Retired After Over 18 Years
I wait in anxious anticipation. iTunes is a disaster and needed to be retired years ago. That said, I really need an application to manage my music and iOS devices on my Mac-- if this turns out to be an effort to nudge me closer to the cloud, I'll be livid.
 
Wait, what? Give us a chance to say goodbye. :(

Or at least give us a chance to clone a setup onto a spare laptop and find an app that behaves more like iTunes used to than like Music does now on iOS.

I will miss iTunes, but it's been a long time since iTunes has been good as a "jukebox."

Folks that manage large offline music libraries should check out Swinsian. It's a fully native macOS app for music management and playback.

Yeah, I half-went there in my weary mind awhile ago, tiring of the option-launch routine when switching from an Apple-music-oriented library to one of the carefully curated ones I keep well away from that bowl of jelly.

I like subscribing to AM but I don't like how Apple wants to integrate it into my purchased iTunes music and/or the rips of my other purchases, and I loathe how it figures changes to AM downloads on one iOS device should be reflected on all my other iOS devices. So... I don't even use it to download to mobiles, and I segregate it in a separate library in iTunes.

So now I'm really gonna look into Swinsian to manage the stuff that I own. I have downloaded the app onto a spare laptop for a trial. By the time "Music" for desktop/laptop rolls out of the garage at Apple and crushes iTunes into the dust, I'll at least be a little familiar with an alternative if I don't like the look of the new Apple vehicle. I'm not going to settle for something on my laptop that even vaguely reminds me of iOS Music app. Bad enough certain Apple Music features now appear in iTunes even when we don't have Apple Music turned on in iTunes preferences, e.g. "Browse" appearing in the menu. Bah! When I want AM, I have a separate library for that!

I'll let that one AM-oriented library migrate into the new Music , but I have a feeling that everything in my other iTunes libraries now will end up managed by some other app. Apple's been going in a feature-reductive direction with iTunes for too long, so just separating it from apps, podcasts, audiobooks, video etc is certainly not going to solve my problems with it. I actually liked having those all integrated into iTunes. I'll get over that but I'm already over the idea that my only recourse now is to a desktop "Music" app offering from Apple.
 
I’ve been backing up my devices to iCloud for a few years now. Can’t even remember the last time I used iTunes or even plugged my iPhone/iPad into my MacBook. Doesn’t seem like I’ll miss iTunes. However, my parents still backup through iTunes. I have no doubts that Apple is smart enough to create a way for people to still backup their devices besides iCloud.
 
So what app will I use to manage my iPhone and local encrypted backups? Third party? iMazing is pretty good, except costly.
As the article says, one of the 3 apps available... Music, TV or Podcast app. TV probably includes movies as well. Really Apple wants us to use their iCloud. I use it and love it. Great storage for iPads.

For those who still use iTunes for backups, it will probably be a pain n the beginning top have to switch apps for what your backing up but in the long run I think it'll be a faster backup.
 
Why not use your finger to scrub up and down until you get the correct letter like...probably everyone else? It would probably save time compared to lining your finger up to tap the intended letter.

Nice smartass comment. Maybe it works for your small fingers/hand, not mine. Also, good luck if you're left handed or use an iPhone Plus.

The Carplay method of alphabetical search is vastly superior- clearly you've never used it. It takes a fraction of a second to go from A to Z or any letter in between, and you don't have to worry about what hand you're using or how big your device is.
 
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I really hope my collection of iTunes movies and TV shows survives intact and I also hope the ability to burn a CD survives. I know it's old fashioned but I like that ability, I have a CD-RW that I erase and rewrite with new tracks.
 
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