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iTunes Expected to Be Retired After Over 18 Years
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Fixed that for you!! . Exactly. Some of us own collections. Other people listen to Drake or whatever.
What about the Windows version? It is needed to manage an iPhone, not for music or videos. There are many more and much better Windows apps for those purposes. And for music streaming Spotify is the best, imo! But no free alternative for iPhone management has been offered so far...
Will they have a separate tool for manually backing up and restoring iphones, ipads, and ipods then if they retire iTunes?
I hope the new Music app retains the ability to edit artwork and metadata and put playlists into folders.
I have hundreds of playlists that I’ve created over the years. It will be interesting to see how the “transition” goes. Somehow I imagine this is going to be painful...
I have hundreds of playlists that I’ve created over the years. It will be interesting to see how the “transition” goes. Somehow I imagine this is going to be painful...
Sure looks like that's exactly what is happening. I have a mini as an iTunes server, it just runs iTunes with home sharing 24/7 with about 600 movies, 600 TV shows and thousands of songs. I access it with two AppleTV's, an iPad and two Macs. It also has a screen and is connected to my stereo with speakers in different rooms.
Now I know there are third party programs for sharing my music and ripped DVD's. But what about the movies and TV shows I purchased from Apple? They are all downloaded and locally stored, but AFAIK there are no third party programs to play these because DRM. Will the new TV/Movie apps let me share these in the same fashion? And will I need multiple programs to make this work now?
Sounds like a can of worms to me. I don't have a lot of purhased movies.... maybe 30 or 40. But I'm not buying any more until I see how this shakes out. I'm fine with just continuing to use my old version of iTunes and MacOS. But you have to wonder how long that will work if Apple's intention is actually to kill local media storage.
And the TV app on my iPad is horrible. I have plenty of complaints about iTunes, but at least it works. On the iPad, half the time it doesn't even see my shared library and I have to manually kill the program and open it again - or even turn wifi off and back on again. Then, when it does work, it doesn't support shared playlists and forces me to scroll through the whole list of 600 movies to find what I want. iTunes on my MacBook Air works perfectly with shared libraries and lets me access shared playlists. Same thing with my AppleTV's.
Is this what passes for an "improvement" over iTunes?
Presumably Apple are all set up to announce a fundamental change to how we store and retrieve media,create back ups,shared libraries,etc.
I hardly use iTunes but when "I can't do something" it's usually because you need to run it through iTunes!
I hardly use iTunes but when "I can't do something" it's usually because you need to run it through iTunes!
Are people seriously suggesting Apple Music is a solution?
Yeah I’m going to give up my collection of thousands of ripped lossless CD tracks for lower quality streaming that doesn’t even offer all the albums I own...
Yeah I’m going to give up my collection of thousands of ripped lossless CD tracks for lower quality streaming that doesn’t even offer all the albums I own...
If you can’t do that on 10.15 than there’s a few options, stay on 10.14, or run 10.14 in a Virtual Machine, second option isn’t that hard, you can even run 10.0 in a VM.
iTunes 6 runs on 10.14, can’t open directly though, you have to run the binary from the terminal, you also need to chose a new library, it can’t read the newer one, one good thing about iTunes 6 is.. it’s a music player without the bloat.
That works ... until the first time you go to listen to a song from Apple Music that you added to your library, and you get a dialog popping up that says that the item is no longer available on Apple Music. That’s happened to me dozens of times in the past year. Couple months ago, I even went through my library and deleted even more from it. It was littered with greyed out tracks that were no longer available on Apple Music.
I guess it’s not a problem though ... if all you listen to is the current top 40, or just put a random “Apple-curated” playlist on shuffle. Pretty safe bet for those that do that.
If I lose the ability to:
- Manage/curate my media in any way
- Sync specific/selected media directly devices, or
- Share my media library throughout my home to ATVs and other devices via Home Sharing
This WILL be the straw that pulls me entirely out of the Apple media ecosystem.
- Manage/curate my media in any way
- Sync specific/selected media directly devices, or
- Share my media library throughout my home to ATVs and other devices via Home Sharing
This WILL be the straw that pulls me entirely out of the Apple media ecosystem.
When Apple removed iOS app management from iTunes I was hoping they would bring it back, maybe as a separate app. Doesn't look like that's going to happen. I get concerned when certain tasks can only be done with internet access.
Several things I'd like with the new music app:
1) Make iCloud more ubiquitous and greatly increase the storage limit.
2) Allow us to permanently delete music from our accounts. There is music that I simply do not want anymore, that I downloaded for free in years past, etc. Let me get rid of them. Don't give me the option to just "hide" it. I want them gone. And fix the duplicate song issue that the iTunes library seems to have a problem with.
3) iTunes has a really bad habit of trying to micromanage song information. Also, get rid of "Compilations" and "Various Artists" under the sort hierarchy -- or derank them to last. There is nothing more annoying that trying to find a song or artist in the Music app that iTunes decided to put under either of these two categories. Album, Artist, and Genre should always be the preferred hierarchy.
4) I'd really, really, really like a Carplay-style alphabet search grid for the new desktop app and especially the iOS music app. Especially on iPhone, it's so annoying trying to tap the correct letter on the right hand side to jump down the list.
1) Make iCloud more ubiquitous and greatly increase the storage limit.
2) Allow us to permanently delete music from our accounts. There is music that I simply do not want anymore, that I downloaded for free in years past, etc. Let me get rid of them. Don't give me the option to just "hide" it. I want them gone. And fix the duplicate song issue that the iTunes library seems to have a problem with.
3) iTunes has a really bad habit of trying to micromanage song information. Also, get rid of "Compilations" and "Various Artists" under the sort hierarchy -- or derank them to last. There is nothing more annoying that trying to find a song or artist in the Music app that iTunes decided to put under either of these two categories. Album, Artist, and Genre should always be the preferred hierarchy.
4) I'd really, really, really like a Carplay-style alphabet search grid for the new desktop app and especially the iOS music app. Especially on iPhone, it's so annoying trying to tap the correct letter on the right hand side to jump down the list.
This is something that worries me. Hope they will not axe features in the name of Marzipan simplicity.
Ironic that iTunes for Windows retains more power features (including editing ePub metadata) than the current version for Mac, and conceivably any of these isolated apps they'll be introducing.
I don't give a single **** about iTunes' music capabilities, but if they take away the ability to make local backups instead of iCloud, I'm going to riot.
The best solution for me is an independent Store app, and none of ‘For You’ shows up in any other apps. Obviously, I don’t like to have Apple’s sale pitch and my music listening experience mixed up.
Not interested in paying for anybody’s streaming services.
I have a huge music library with songs and edits you cannot find anywhere else.
I hope whatever Apple comes up with to replace iTunes keeps the current functionality to manually organize and sync my library to my iPhone.
I have a huge music library with songs and edits you cannot find anywhere else.
I hope whatever Apple comes up with to replace iTunes keeps the current functionality to manually organize and sync my library to my iPhone.
The amount of content--even divided into 3 apps--is staggering! Look at the standalone app store--still a mess. And what happens to windows version?