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iTunes for windows...great move...so can we expect os x for PCs?
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krossfyter
macrumors 601
same discussion different people. important and provactive issue. why minimize the discussion? different strokes for different folks i guess.
krossfyter
macrumors 601
i still hold up some "hope" for osx or some apple inc operating system on intel/amd
but as most of us know, it should have been apple inc on all the desktops in the world, but bill gates squirmed his way into the world's computers when apple inc actually had the real momemtum
if the two steves saw the potential of "software", which was all once considered freeware and not important, then apple inc would be the 800 pound gorilla, not some company in redmond with inferior software
and anybody who thinks that being big is also akin to being the worst in quality, then tell that to ibm and sony
apple inc is the "boston red sox" of the computer world...like the red sox and early world series history, apple inc kicked butt in the industry in its early days...boston sold babe ruth many decades ago and that cursed the red sox...apple inc practically handed the ball to gates and that cursed apple
i know at this point it is close to impossible for apple to be the big kahuna in the computing world, but i would still like to see PC users have an option besides windows and linux...but i am glad pc people have itunes
themadchemist
macrumors 68030
You will most likely never see OS X on x86
First, Apple will probably never base their machines on x86. Secondly, even if they did switch to x86, OS X will never, never, never run on any hardware that Apple has not produced-- so surrender the fantasy of running OS X on some homebuilt sh*tbox. The major selling point of the Mac is the "it just works" factor-- the tight integration between Apple software and Apple hardware. They won't be able to deliver that if they suddenly have to support hundreds of varieties of commodity hardware flying out of factories in East Bumblef*ck, Asia. Microsoft has blown through umpteen billion dollars over damn near twenty years in their attempt to do it, and they still haven't got it right. Now, I know that over the years Apple's engineers have managed to pull off quite a few things that eluded Microsoft's engineers, but this is one time where that absolutely will not happen. No matter how good Apple's people are, if Mac-quality plug and play with commodity hardware were possible, Microsoft would have already achieved it.
The only way Apple could do it would be to support only a tiny subset of the available PC hardware-- like NeXTStep did when it ran on Intel. And such a move wouldn't shut up most of the legions of x86heads who acknowledge the superiority of OS X but refuse to purchase entirely new hardware to run it, because they would still have to buy officially supported hardware.
~Philly
First, Apple will probably never base their machines on x86. Secondly, even if they did switch to x86, OS X will never, never, never run on any hardware that Apple has not produced-- so surrender the fantasy of running OS X on some homebuilt sh*tbox. The major selling point of the Mac is the "it just works" factor-- the tight integration between Apple software and Apple hardware. They won't be able to deliver that if they suddenly have to support hundreds of varieties of commodity hardware flying out of factories in East Bumblef*ck, Asia. Microsoft has blown through umpteen billion dollars over damn near twenty years in their attempt to do it, and they still haven't got it right. Now, I know that over the years Apple's engineers have managed to pull off quite a few things that eluded Microsoft's engineers, but this is one time where that absolutely will not happen. No matter how good Apple's people are, if Mac-quality plug and play with commodity hardware were possible, Microsoft would have already achieved it.
The only way Apple could do it would be to support only a tiny subset of the available PC hardware-- like NeXTStep did when it ran on Intel. And such a move wouldn't shut up most of the legions of x86heads who acknowledge the superiority of OS X but refuse to purchase entirely new hardware to run it, because they would still have to buy officially supported hardware.
~Philly
When Apple builds a x86 OSX, it's the day they exit the market. No longer must people buy Apple hardware. Apple makes it's living by hardware, not software, not even iPods.
themadchemist
macrumors 68030
thanks, iJon, I do what I can. That said, I'm not at work and posting to MacRumors has been constantly drawing me away from the studying I SHOULD be doing...Like right now.
Sun Baked
macrumors G5
They've been there, done that -- but it got canceled.
MS sold Windows NT PPC for awhile, which ran on the PowerPC Platform machine.
MS canceled it, followed by Apple killing clones a couple months later.
Amiga should have brought some excitement back to the PPC Platform -- but it looks like they may declare bankruptcy yet again, they got a big court appointment Dec. 2003 (which may have been called by creditors).
krossfyter
macrumors 601
i hear ya. nice baseball to computer company analogy there. i dont understand much about baseball or the red sox but i got your point.
i think today more so then ever apple is being respected more and more by people in the pc world. pre osx pc people were more adament on thier position on apple selling horrible computers. now that osx has come along i see more and more pc people open up to it and give it a try. i think pc people have an option... not the way you see if though.... the option is to ditch thier puter and get a mac. ive converted about 5 people to macs right now and 4 of them were predisposed thinkers that macs suck. after seeing osx they were easier to deal with. apples job is easy really. its just that predisposed ideology that rears its ugly head that is the hard thing to fight.