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1079 songs, 2.9 days, 4.15 GB.
201 songs from iTMS, 14.3 hours, 865.8 MB, around 190 dollars (I think)

Total number of songs played since October 6, 2004:

198.

Top five playcounts:

735, 409, 93, 23, 20.
 
11,390 songs, 46.55GB, 34 days and change
923 songs from itunes, (like 100+ from the WSP New Years Concert)

Been buying CD's for years and years (tho i'm only 26)

Now I realize I really do have a problem... :eek:
 
2890 total (7 days:10hours 06 min and 48 sec total time and it it as 11.22 gigs
65 song from itunes

Mindy ou I not sure how much my my total libary is legal and not legel since. The collage network did help me spick my libary size thanks to a little program call ourtunes. (a lot of the stuff I did take is not music you can exaclty buy in the states or is no longer advioble to buy or never was out to buy from stories while a lot of it was)


If I am going to take a guess I going to say about 40% of the libary was paid for by me or a family memeber because I do rememeber ripping a large number of cds before I left home for hte school year
 
wordmunger said:
Why do we think libraries are "good" but downloading music is "bad"? Think about it. Checking out a book from the library has more in common with downloading music from the 'Net than robbing someone on the street does.

You bring up libraries. We all contribute money (via taxes, donations, etc) to make libraries possible. When we "borrow" information, be it music, writings, or videos, we are using them in a legal and responsible manner.

However, it does become a more gray issue. What if I photocopy a magazine article to bring home and keep? Is this a crime? Is it morally wrong?

Now, take that to the next level. Many of my iTunes songs are from CDs from the public library. Is that stealing? Clearly, if I was to burn copies and sell them that would be morally wrong. However, having them on my computer (and iPod), and listening to them is a more gray issue. Is it different than an extending "check-out" from the library? Is it different than ripping one of my friend's CDs for my personal usage?

I think, overall, it is probably wrong. Most of the music I listen to is jazz, by dead artists, so I'm not really hurting them financially. However, that isn't a good argument.

It just doesn't seem as wrong as downloading music from P2P sites. I can check out the music and listen to it for 2 weeks... that is no problem. However, if I copy it to listen to indefinately, this is wrong, right?

What do you guys think? Is ripping from the public library stealing? Is it any different than recording a show on TIVO, buring it to a DVD, and adding it to my collection? VCR recordings of TV / HBO for personal usage don't seem like a big problem. Why is this so different?

-alywa
 
alywa said:
What do you guys think? Is ripping from the public library stealing? Is it any different than recording a show on TIVO, buring it to a DVD, and adding it to my collection? VCR recordings of TV / HBO for personal usage don't seem like a big problem. Why is this so different?

-alywa


No, I don't think it's stealing -- that was actually my point. P2P isn't stealing either. It's illegal, but it's not theft, it's copyright violation. Making a "california stop" or failing to scoop after your doggy-doo isn't stealing but it's still illegal.

Libraries are specifically allowed for in copyright law. Why? Probably just because of tradition. I expect that if no one had ever thought of libraries until now, then they would not be allowed to "invent" the idea of a library today.

In my opinion, ripping a CD you borrow from the library is just as "wrong" as P2P. But depending on what you're using it for, I don't think P2P is such a bad thing. If you use P2P to sample music and decide what to buy, then I think P2P is perfectly justified. If you use it to avoid paying for your music, then I'd say you're abusing the system. But even then, there are cases when it's perfectly justified: for example, a music teacher looking for examples of a particular genre, or a student searching for music for a report she's writing.
 
no iTMS here so 0.
12864 (52.68gb)-cd or vinyl.
still with heaps of tracks to convert from vinyl.
an iTMS here would save me converting tracks.
 
evolu said:
69.69 GB (seriously)
while we're on that i have 6699 songs :p , no joke. 17:13:22:28, 22.43 GB.

so own up, who's the person steve was talking about a (long) while ago that spent, what, $29,000 or thereabouts on music? at 99 cents per song that comes to 28,710 songs. 4 minutes per song makes 114,840 minutes (79.75 days). 1 MB per minute makes that 114,840 MB or 114.84 GB. im not being too picky about math as it's 3 am here...
--andrzej
 
7877 songs 62.1gb on my server, a lot of CD's been ripped as lossless to keep the audio as clean as possible for our hifi's in the house.

Like my dad's Pink Floyd Pulse Live and Mike Oldfield - Tubular Bells 2.

The server is shared between me, my sister, my brother, the lounge, the kitchen and the conservatory.

I have around 500 more albums to import when I get time :s

They all have been labelled with the correct Year, Tracks, Artists, Title's etc.. and all have album art, that when shared only shows up on visualiser.

I only have about 34 tracks from the iTms, it is very convenient but the DRM does my head in and they arn't the greatest of quality.
 
i have roughly 6 spindles of 100 cdr's that are full of mp3's plus my originals.
each cd is 700mb. each album is roughly 100mb at 192kbs. each spindle has 70gigs of mp3s. 6 spindles is 420 gigs. i really need an external lacie.

as much as i love digital files, i also love physical properties. if anything im just dull and redundant

plus 3 tracks i got from itunes since i subscribed with my payapl. quality is horrible
 
wordmunger said:
I don't think P2P is such a bad thing. If you use P2P to sample music and decide what to buy, then I think P2P is perfectly justified.

i think that is what music sharing is all about. you cant get the quality of a CD or iTMS download from a P2P network (on ocasion you run into a good rip or a song that doesnt have breaks or odd sounds in it) but in general you get a fair quality recording similar to using a tape to record from the radio. is that illegal? NO. is it illegal to make my friend a mix tape (am i getting old?) NO. is it illegal for me to make 20 copies of a song and sell it to my friends? YES. i think the music companies are just a bunch of rich FU**S trying to get more money. if they would support the fans instead of trying to get more money from them, im sure the sales would go up in the end. they should save their lawsuit money and spend it on a Free P2P network. encode ALL of their songs at a slightly reduced quality. this way people can hear and enjoy the music free, but it will sound bad enough on a home stereo system that the people will want to go buy a CD or purchase a full encoded download. they could even throw in a couple add banners here and there when people listen to certain songs (like ads on radio) and be able to make enough money to get the greedy bastards to shut up!!!

Does a good band play their music for enjoyment and to please the audiance, or do they play for the ticket stubs sitting in everyones pocket?
 
Im at work now, so I cant give any numbers, but I have close to 1000 cd's. I like to have the pysical album, then I Rip them. Imnot sure how many songs or gigs at the moment, but I have a external 250gig HDD almost full.

About the sharing thing; My wife or myself buys the Cd, then we both rip them to our computers (im a mac guy, she's a windows girl.) I know we are technicly sharing, but the Cd was perchased by one of us. and at times, there are a few copys (software copys) of albums floating around, as I connect my iBook to the External HDD, copy off what I want to listen to for that trip or whatever, then delete it when I'm done, then go through the whole prosses again. She does the same with her computers as well. so...there are at least 2 ripped copys of an album, and the physical CD in the house.

I would never use a P2P to get my music anyway even if it was legal. the quality almost always sucks.
 
Library - 3322 songs; 10.9 days; 12.66GB
iTMS - 83 songs; 1.2 days; 717MB (that includes the 9/11 report and a very nice Bach CD that had lots of music for $10); total spent? about $31
 
Mechcozmo said:
1074 songs, 4.05 GB. 2.7 days or 2:18:05:25 depending on what you have it set it. (Click to change...)

Wow, we really do learn something new every day.
 
9600 songs: 30.1 days: 45.31GB

the best part:
smart playlist called "unlistened to" contains 4468 songs - 24.06gb


i also have a handful of tracks recorded off the 'net - using iRecordMusic to get NPR Radio shows- such as this american life, from the top, car talk...etc
most of those are 20min-4 hrs long

as far as ITMS purchases- most of the ones i have are the freebeis - but i did purchase a few for a client once-
that playlist has 43 currently-
 
2011 (I'm at work so I don't know the GB it takes up.
13 from itunes
100 from other sources.
The rest from ripped CD's

I have to agree with Joetronic. Download qulaity generally sucks on P2P sites. I have only downloaded a few from p2p that were of any good quality. Usually I would download several versions of the song to see which one was the best quality. That got old. I have been looking at downloading from the russian websites. Anybody had any experience with this? Its cheap and supposedly legal. Plus you can dictate what bitrate you want to download at. I just am wary of handing over my CC# to them. They do accept cyberplat(?). I'm not familiar with it but its supposed to be like Paypal. I worry that its owned by the russian mafia however. (Puts away the tinfoil hat).
 
1430 songs in my itunes and ipod, just signed upto itms because i didn't think they accepted visa electron cards..bought 30 songs already. Most of my stuff is ripped from my cds/my friends...but i must admit at least 100 are from other sources.
I am worried, this is getting addictive and so darn easy! It doesn't feel as if any money has dissapeared from my account...just loads of great tracks that i have thought "oo how nice, i haven't heard that in a while"
 
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