iTunes (Lion) no longer has nested rules for Smart Playlists

Discussion in 'Mac Apps and Mac App Store' started by BillJennings, Jul 22, 2011.

  1. BillJennings macrumors newbie

    Jun 11, 2011
    After my upgrade to Lion, I've been playing around with iTunes. Has anyone else noticed that iTunes no longer has nested rules (or nested conditionals) for smart playlists? This was a feature added to iTunes 9, and it was a godsend. I can't believe this feature is now missing.

    Nested rules/conditionals allow you to make much more complex smart playlists. You hit an ellipsis button (next to the + and - button) to create a nested rule. The ellipsis button is now gone in iTunes.

    Here's an article in 2009 about this feature, and why it works:
  2. lewis82 macrumors 68000


    Aug 26, 2009
    Totalitarian Republic of Northlandia
    Same thing in Snow Lep iTunes 10.4. The weirdest is that I can still use my old iPod playlist, which has nested conditions. I can modify them, but I can't add them. I bet there is a hidden preference somewhere, they didn't completely remove support.
  3. cdte92 macrumors newbie

    Jul 20, 2010
    Kirkcaldy, Scotland
    hold down the option key ...

    and the plus turns into the ellipsis so you can nest rules
  4. BillJennings thread starter macrumors newbie

    Jun 11, 2011
  5. crappa macrumors newbie

    Jul 22, 2011
    I haven't played with iTunes playlists in a while. Thanks for that tip.
  6. Feck this macrumors newbie

    Jul 3, 2011
  7. tcison macrumors newbie

    May 13, 2010
    Only a partial fix

    This works to add a nested condition inside an existing condition. How do you add a nested condition at the root level? I don't see any way to promote or demote the newly created ALL/ANY conditions that follow.
  8. polocanada macrumors newbie

    Jul 10, 2009
    To make the nested condition at the root level you can create the condition anywhere you like (able to) and you can move it by dragging it around to the root level.
  9. mags macrumors newbie

    Mar 22, 2012
    I know I'm a bit late to this ...

    (well, I thought my title was funny) but thank you! Only had a mac for a couple of weeks and so didn't know if this was one of those silly transfer issues or just me - you've saved my sanity - now I can go catch up on some sleep with the right songs buzzing in my ears...
  10. dknightd macrumors 6502

    Mar 7, 2004
  11. jyavenard macrumors newbie

    Sep 15, 2004
    I've tried every possible combination, but once I've created a nested rule, I haven't found a way to create a new rule outside the nesting.

    Dragging it at the root or the bottom does absolutely nothing.

    The only workaround I've found, is prior to nesting any conditions, you create a few ones that aren't nested, then add a nested one. Only then will you be able to add more rules outside the current nesting.

    iTunes 10.6..

    This is so broken
  12. skottichan macrumors 6502a


    Oct 23, 2007
    Columbus, OH
    Hmm, strange, I can get it to work on my 3 machine's and my GF's MBP. All running 10.6.1, so I'm not sure if it's an endemic problem.

    Do you have this problem with newly created playlists?
  13. badsandwich macrumors member

    Sep 8, 2009
    Yep, same problem here. I've used the method you mentioned as a workaround, so thanks for that.
  14. mcgdj macrumors newbie

    Mar 30, 2015
    try this
    To add another set of rules within a rule, hold down the Option key and click the Nest button Three dots inside a circle. (When you hold down the Option key, the Add button changes to the Nest button.)

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