iTunes Music Library = DRM is back

Discussion in 'iOS 8' started by niji, Jul 2, 2015.

  1. niji macrumors 6502a

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    since if you enable iTunes Music Library, it only provides DRMed files, AND, on top of that with so many people reporting that iTunes Music Library deleted their original file, I went back to my Time Machine Backup today to get back my original music data files so that I could make a permanent copy on a separate disk of the status of my music library the way it was on the day before 8.4 was released.

    god only knows how badly your library will be mangled if you (god forbid) ever decide to extract yourself from Streaming Paradise apple Music, at some point down the road.
     
  2. eyeseeyou macrumors 68000

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    This is an annoyance when using a DJ or video apps when trying to use downloaded apple music file to create a new file or media.
     
  3. Phil A. Moderator

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    It's DRMd to stop people just downloading the music they haven't paid for (as all "rental services" are). If you have an iTunes Match subscription it will continue to provide non-DRMd copies of stuff you own, and you can re-download purchases from the iTunes store with no DRM on them
     
  4. eyeseeyou macrumors 68000

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    The djay 2 app lets you mix spotify's catalog. I hope Apple music somehow gets the same treatment
     
  5. niji thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    yes, that is the way SHOULD work. but before I decided to start over, today, the new iTunes release began to give error messages saying (something to the effect) that I could "not download a file that the new service had replaced (!) with the DRMed version, since it was purchased originally with a different apple ID".
    this is totally f*d up. the original song was purchased in iTunes about 2 years with my one and only apple ID. so clearly this apple Music Library has a clear agenda to replace your files even though that is not how it is SUPPOSED to work.

    for my 2nd attempt to use the new iTunes, I am thinking of NOT enabling apple Music Library. so it doesn't replace my DRM free content, and, just using iTunes for streaming of their streamable content only, giving up entirely the ability to listen to off-line downloaded content from apple Music, which is free of charge.
     
  6. Rhonindk macrumors 68020

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    But if you have match on, the tunes (yours) that are replaced are now DRM'd even if your original were not. o_O

    Original match still DRM free.
    The "new" match is DRM.
     
  7. Phil A. Moderator

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    I've got an iTunes match subscription and if I download a track that's showing as "Purchased","Matched" or "Uploaded" from my iTunes library it has no DRM on it and is downloaded to ~/Music/iTunes/iTunes Media/Music/

    Only music that has an iCloud status of "Apple Music" (i.e. stuff I've added from the Apple music service" contains DRM and is downloaded to ~/Music/iTunes/iTunes Media/Apple Music

    That's the "extra" that keeping iTunes match gives you - you keep the option to download non-DRM versions of stuff you add to your library from your computer
     
  8. eyeseeyou macrumors 68000

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    This might make it a deal breaker for me.

    Rdio for $3.99 gives me curated playlists, unlimited skipping and 25 downloads a day with a similar sized catalog.
     
  9. lchlch macrumors 6502a

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    But you have unlimited downloads on Apple music...
     
  10. eyeseeyou macrumors 68000

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    I don't need unlimited downloads if I have unlimited streaming for $3.99.
     
  11. lchlch macrumors 6502a

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    Fair enough.
     
  12. eyeseeyou macrumors 68000

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    Plus I'm already paying for iTunes Match.

    Hopefully Apple updates their policy with sharing music purchases in the family plans so we don't have to repurchase for each account.
     
  13. Paco II macrumors 65816

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    They have a good product, but I can't stand Rdio's iOS app. I think it has a terrible UI, but that is totally subjective of course.

     
  14. xero9 macrumors 6502a

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    Does Rdio still have a forced social requirement? When I tried it out I remember it requiring Facebook or something.
     
  15. GreyOS macrumors 68030

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    it's not on demand streaming though is it? just stations?
     
  16. eyeseeyou macrumors 68000

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    You get 25 on demand requests/downloads per day
     
  17. GreyOS macrumors 68030

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    Right... Apple music is unlimited on demand streaming :)
     
  18. eyeseeyou macrumors 68000

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    Also $10 vs $3.99

    I'm sure a good amount of people don't download more than 25 songs a day.
     
  19. GreyOS macrumors 68030

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    Yeah sure. Just making the difference clear as it hadn't been explicitly mentioned before in your discussion.
     
  20. decafjava macrumors 68000

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    Hmm if you don't download but just stream tracks it won't affect your current library will it?
     
  21. niji thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    this is correct.

    if you have "signed up" during this 3 month trial period for apple music library however, you have the facility to download.
    if you have already signed up, apple does make it very easy to get out of it, however.
    if you happen to ever hit the download for off line listening button you would be asked to sign up.

    i am just using it as a streaming service and for its incredible music discovery abilities and then listening to the playlists it recommends. really fine. and then, as usual, just going to iTunes to purchase the 1 or 2 tracks that I really like.
     

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