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iTunes Music Library = DRM is back

jpn

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since if you enable iTunes Music Library, it only provides DRMed files, AND, on top of that with so many people reporting that iTunes Music Library deleted their original file, I went back to my Time Machine Backup today to get back my original music data files so that I could make a permanent copy on a separate disk of the status of my music library the way it was on the day before 8.4 was released.

god only knows how badly your library will be mangled if you (god forbid) ever decide to extract yourself from Streaming Paradise apple Music, at some point down the road.
 

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since if you enable iTunes Music Library, it only provides DRMed files, AND, on top of that with so many people reporting that iTunes Music Library deleted their original file, I went back to my Time Machine Backup today to get back my original music data files so that I could make a permanent copy on a separate disk of the status of my music library the way it was on the day before 8.4 was released.

god only knows how badly your library will be mangled if you (god forbid) ever decide to extract yourself from Streaming Paradise apple Music, at some point down the road.

This is an annoyance when using a DJ or video apps when trying to use downloaded apple music file to create a new file or media.
 
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It's DRMd to stop people just downloading the music they haven't paid for (as all "rental services" are). If you have an iTunes Match subscription it will continue to provide non-DRMd copies of stuff you own, and you can re-download purchases from the iTunes store with no DRM on them
 
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It's DRMd to stop people just downloading the music they haven't paid for (as all "rental services" are). If you have an iTunes Match subscription it will continue to provide non-DRMd copies of stuff you own, and you can re-download purchases from the iTunes store with no DRM on them

The djay 2 app lets you mix spotify's catalog. I hope Apple music somehow gets the same treatment
 
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jpn

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The djay 2 app lets you mix spotify's catalog. I hope Apple music somehow gets the same treatment

yes, that is the way SHOULD work. but before I decided to start over, today, the new iTunes release began to give error messages saying (something to the effect) that I could "not download a file that the new service had replaced (!) with the DRMed version, since it was purchased originally with a different apple ID".
this is totally f*d up. the original song was purchased in iTunes about 2 years with my one and only apple ID. so clearly this apple Music Library has a clear agenda to replace your files even though that is not how it is SUPPOSED to work.

for my 2nd attempt to use the new iTunes, I am thinking of NOT enabling apple Music Library. so it doesn't replace my DRM free content, and, just using iTunes for streaming of their streamable content only, giving up entirely the ability to listen to off-line downloaded content from apple Music, which is free of charge.
 
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It's DRMd to stop people just downloading the music they haven't paid for (as all "rental services" are). If you have an iTunes Match subscription it will continue to provide non-DRMd copies of stuff you own, and you can re-download purchases from the iTunes store with no DRM on them

But if you have match on, the tunes (yours) that are replaced are now DRM'd even if your original were not. o_O

Original match still DRM free.
The "new" match is DRM.
 
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Phil A.

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But if you have match on, the tunes (yours) that are replaced are now DRM'd even if your original were not. o_O

Original match still DRM free.
The "new" match is DRM.

I've got an iTunes match subscription and if I download a track that's showing as "Purchased","Matched" or "Uploaded" from my iTunes library it has no DRM on it and is downloaded to ~/Music/iTunes/iTunes Media/Music/

Only music that has an iCloud status of "Apple Music" (i.e. stuff I've added from the Apple music service" contains DRM and is downloaded to ~/Music/iTunes/iTunes Media/Apple Music

That's the "extra" that keeping iTunes match gives you - you keep the option to download non-DRM versions of stuff you add to your library from your computer
 
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This might make it a deal breaker for me.

Rdio for $3.99 gives me curated playlists, unlimited skipping and 25 downloads a day with a similar sized catalog.
 
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This might make it a deal breaker for me.

Rdio for $3.99 gives me curated playlists, unlimited skipping and 25 downloads a day with a similar sized catalog.
But you have unlimited downloads on Apple music...
 
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Paco II

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They have a good product, but I can't stand Rdio's iOS app. I think it has a terrible UI, but that is totally subjective of course.

I don't need unlimited downloads if I have unlimited streaming for $3.99.
 
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xero9

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Does Rdio still have a forced social requirement? When I tried it out I remember it requiring Facebook or something.
 
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GreyOS

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Also $10 vs $3.99

I'm sure a good amount of people don't download more than 25 songs a day.
Yeah sure. Just making the difference clear as it hadn't been explicitly mentioned before in your discussion.
 
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decafjava

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Hmm if you don't download but just stream tracks it won't affect your current library will it?
 
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jpn

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Hmm if you don't download but just stream tracks it won't affect your current library will it?

this is correct.

if you have "signed up" during this 3 month trial period for apple music library however, you have the facility to download.
if you have already signed up, apple does make it very easy to get out of it, however.
if you happen to ever hit the download for off line listening button you would be asked to sign up.

i am just using it as a streaming service and for its incredible music discovery abilities and then listening to the playlists it recommends. really fine. and then, as usual, just going to iTunes to purchase the 1 or 2 tracks that I really like.
 
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