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Diskdoctor

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I am new to mac. A friend talked me in to buying a mac pro. Its fine only as hard as i try I can't find a stand alone media player...Can someone help me...
On my pc i use winamp...but there is a lot to choose from for eg.. jet audio, juke box, windows media player,Quintessential player, Sonique, and many many more.... with mac i found itunes or itunes or itunes or of course itunes... 😡
is there anything else? Ok itunes players my mp3s fine and dose it job but were are the cool plugins and skins....winamp looks like a little stereo on my desktop...itune looks like a web page... 🙄
may be i just like the winamp eye candy...buts whats wrong with that? 🙂
 
Songbird is really buggy right now, but when its ready, I think it could really challenge iTunes for users who don't use the store. I mean, firefox is killing safari, and even if this doesn't damage iTunes' share, it could give Apple a kick up the backside to include skins and other cool features.
 
psychofreak said:
Songbird is really buggy right now, but when its ready, I think it could really challenge iTunes for users who don't use the store. I mean, firefox is killing safari, and even if this doesn't damage iTunes' share, it could give Apple a kick up the backside to include skins and other cool features.
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I never heard of this, but I just looked and think it's amazing. Wow. I'm going to give that a try...
 
Warbrain said:
I never heard of this, but I just looked and think it's amazing. Wow. I'm going to give that a try...
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It's rather slow and buggy. It also does basically exactly what iTunes does but without being able to play all the songs I've bought so it's iTunes for me.
 
Benjamindaines said:
It's rather slow and buggy. It also does basically exactly what iTunes does but without being able to play all the songs I've bought so it's iTunes for me.
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Skins are cool. And I thought that a built-in browser was unnecessary and gimmicky, but its actually quite cool, I'm still an iTunes user though, maybe not for long...
 
Also try iTunes' minimized mode out -- click the green ball in the upper left. The truth, though, is that the whole business of really only having one good app that does a certain thing, and only really does it in one way, is kind of core to Macs... it's not a coincidence that Macs don't have thirty different music players.... now that you not only bought a Mac, but bought an insanely expensive one, try spending a little time with Apple software being used in the designed way and really give it a try before you try to make your Mac act just like Windows... I say that as a switcher... I bought my first Mac less than three years ago.
 
mkrishnan said:
Also try iTunes' minimized mode out -- click the green ball in the upper left. The truth, though, is that the whole business of really only having one good app that does a certain thing, and only really does it in one way, is kind of core to Macs... it's not a coincidence that Macs don't have thirty different music players.... now that you not only bought a Mac, but bought an insanely expensive one, try spending a little time with Apple software being used in the designed way and really give it a try before you try to make your Mac act just like Windows... I say that as a switcher... I bought my first Mac less than three years ago.
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I'd absolutely agree. Great point!🙂
 
ok I have just looked at songbird its itunes in a diffrent rapper.....iTune was made to interface with a ipod and itunes store....This is fine if i had a ipod or i used itunes to buy music but i don't... i use other places ( we won't say ) 🙄

I would write a player myself as i have done before with visual basic...but real basic for the mac is not even close to VB so I will have to lean how to program in that too...

With winamp I can take a song a friend as give me on my USB drive and just drag it to winamp and play it..then if i like it I can copy it to my music folder...

with itunes well i have no need to tell you...

this is what i meen when i say a stand alone media player.. You can't get itunes to look like this..
 

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Diskdoctor said:
ok I have just looked at songbird its itunes in a diffrent rapper.....iTune was made to interface with a ipod and itunes store....This is fine if i had a ipod or i used itunes to buy music but i don't... i use other places ( we won't say ) 🙄

I would write a player myself as i have done before with visual basic...but real basic for the mac is not even close to VB so I will have to lean how to program in that too...

With winamp I can take a song a friend as give me on my USB drive and just drag it to winamp and play it..then if i like it I can copy it to my music folder...

with itunes well i have no need to tell you...

this is what i meen when i say a stand alone media player.. You can't get itunes to look like this..
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If that's what you want I suggest you beg the WinAMP team to make another Mac verson. They had one back in the days of OS 9.
 
If that's what you want I suggest you beg the WinAMP team to make another Mac verson. They had one back in the days of OS 9.
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yes i no they did and if mac was backwards compatable it would still work today...thats why there is very little software for macs...if you upgrade your computer... all you old software won't work...

This is all so why it take so long for apple to make there new macs because thay have to release new software with them....

Expensive keeping a mac.....
 
Diskdoctor said:
yes i no they did and if mac was backwards compatable it would still work today...thats why there is very little software for macs...if you upgrade your computer... all you old software won't work...

This is all so why it take so long for apple to make there new macs because thay have to release new software with them....

Expensive keeping a mac.....
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This isn't quite true.

OS 9 => OS X (Classic Apps Work)
OS X => OS X Intel (OS X PPC apps work, Classic Apps don't)

Carbon ports are not that difficult. It would not have taken that long to develop a Mac OS X version of WinAmp from the OS 9 version.

It would then have to be updated to a universal binary, but again Apple has tried to make this as easy as possible for developers.
 
Diskdoctor said:
yes i no they did and if mac was backwards compatable it would still work today...thats why there is very little software for macs...if you upgrade your computer... all you old software won't work...

This is all so why it take so long for apple to make there new macs because thay have to release new software with them....

Expensive keeping a mac.....
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That's not true, Macs are completely backward compatible. Especially the PPC Macs (like mine and a lot of other peoples'). The only reason the newer ones can't run OS 9 is that they use Intel processors so you would have to double emulate to get back to OS 9 (Intel > PPC > Classic) this would make it dog slow and close to unusable. Furthermore, most of the OS 9 software has had support dropped by the developers for years, many of them have had OS X versions released which again makes OS 9 useless.
 
This isn't quite true.

OS 9 => OS X (Classic Apps Work)
OS X => OS X Intel (OS X PPC apps work, Classic Apps don't)

Carbon ports are not that difficult. It would not have taken that long to develop a Mac OS X version of WinAmp from the OS 9 version.

It would then have to be updated to a universal binary, but again Apple has tried to make this as easy as possible for developers.
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I have a new intel mac and i have found loads of my friends software will not work on my mac....he as a power pc G5 2.7 water cooled thing...

but I thing we are going off i little here i just asked if there was a stand alone media player like winamp for the mac.. because with the mac you can use itunes or itunes or yes you guessed it itunes..

someone said try songbird so i downloaded it and can you spot the diffrence?
its just itunes in a new suit...I just hope someone can help me find something else...
 

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thanks for Mplayer....its a start a have tryed VLC...its not very good...but it looks like there isn't a player for mac that is a good as winamp 🙁
 
well strip me naked and call me susan... you did it yes it works winamp on a mac.. os x if i hadn't done it i wouldn't beleave it...many thanks..

just in case anyone wishes to no I run a intel mac pro
and it works...

again many thanks
 
Diskdoctor said:
it looks like there isn't a player for mac that is a good as winamp 🙁
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Perhaps you should try learning how to use iTunes before making that judgement. iTunes is so much better than winamp.

Diskdoctor said:
With winamp I can take a song a friend as give me on my USB drive and just drag it to winamp and play it..then if i like it I can copy it to my music folder...
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Just preview the file right in the Finder, and if you want to keep it, drag and drop it into iTunes. Done.
 
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