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iTunes Radio: no unlimited data plan? Beware!
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If you aren't a developer, you should not be using the iOS 7 beta. Period.
If you choose to use it and find stuff being wrong/broken/incorrect/missing/buggy, you should become a developer (it's only $99) and file a bug report. That's what they're there for.
Hey, come on, it's good for business! Doesn't it drive up the traffic on the website?!?
In all honesty tho, if people want to use it that's one thing. The problem comes when people don't understand the limitations of a BETA, and come on here COMPLAINING about problems they are having.
It's one thing to bring stuff up for discussion with other people, and a totally different thing to complain about Apple and leave bad AppStore ratings because of the beta. That ain't right!
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That doesn't really solve the problem. By disabling cellular access for the App Store, you're not even able to browse it anymore unless on Cellular. I think the OP (and I agree with this) was asking for a way to leave specifically disable Automatic Updates while on cellular. I think that setting should be coming in a future beta, but we need to file bug reports with Apple.
So basically this is yet another post wherein someone who isn't a dev is running the beta and complaining about problems that they are having with it.
Either get a dev account so you can report the bugs (I have one and do, even though I'm not actually devoloping apps), or revert to 6.x.x and wait until the fall.
Seriously, the nerve of some people. "I downloaded pre-release software that I'm not even supposed to have and can't believe there are problems with it!"
I will concede that the issue you mention is a legitimate one, and Apple should be made aware of it. But this thread is not the way to do it.
Either get a dev account so you can report the bugs (I have one and do, even though I'm not actually devoloping apps), or revert to 6.x.x and wait until the fall.
Seriously, the nerve of some people. "I downloaded pre-release software that I'm not even supposed to have and can't believe there are problems with it!"
I will concede that the issue you mention is a legitimate one, and Apple should be made aware of it. But this thread is not the way to do it.
That is for individual app use.
What I am referring to is in the pic I posted. "Updates" ...app updates, this enables automatic updates of apps, downloaded automatically off cell data. I have it turned off, but, then, look below and it says turn cell data on for iTunes Radio, Match AND Updates. Somehow there is a bug. ...If I write more, I will be repeating myself again.
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Exactly!
Not complaining. ...I'm sure I am not the only one that has a beta iOS on my phone, but, this is the first time. My only complaint is people's reaction. I will try to word things differently next time. ...If this is not the place, then please direct me to a better place.
I hope that by the time iOS 7 is complete that apple makes a distinct separate control here, something a developer might not notice, personally, I think I could be helpful. If there is a place I can request this feature, even though I'm not a dev. I'd like to. As I said, apple employees can get the beta, why not others? You think they don't know it's out there? They do.
It's not a feature, it comes down to this: If apple is going to have a music service that will compete with pandora, then, in the real world, I have to be able to have control over the data, especially if it continues to use more data than pandora. I can't have automatic app updates downloading while I am listening to music via iTunes Radio. There needs to be separate controls, maybe they plan on it, but, they have done some things in the past and never fixed them. It comes down to, the end user has to deal with how much cell data they use, if not because of limitation, then because of "throttling". I don't know about most people, but I have a lot of apps and mon-fri I get multiple updates, right now on a daily basis.
I have been misunderstood. I was trying to find a way to: 1) inform apple, and request separate controls. 2) inform others using iOS 7 & iTunes Radio that this might happen to them.
Maybe most people don't care how much data they use, but, I get close to max on a regular basis, and have to watch it. It wasn't a complaint, but an observation. I know I am using beta software at my own risk.
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If this thread must be closed or deleted, that's fine. If someone has a better way for me to request a functionality of the phone before iOS 7 is complete, please send me a private message. Thanks!!
I have been misunderstood. I was trying to find a way to: 1) inform apple, and request separate controls. 2) inform others using iOS 7 & iTunes Radio that this might happen to them.
Maybe most people don't care how much data they use, but, I get close to max on a regular basis, and have to watch it. It wasn't a complaint, but an observation. I know I am using beta software at my own risk.
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If this thread must be closed or deleted, that's fine. If someone has a better way for me to request a functionality of the phone before iOS 7 is complete, please send me a private message. Thanks!!
Well in that case, from your post and what I can see from Settings, the problem is with specifically your bug where automatic download gets randomly enabled without you knowing. Because if everything works as intended, then you would be able to use cellular data for radio, app downloads, and match, but at the same time automatic downloads would be off and it wouldn't be a problem because it wouldn't download anything unless you tell it to. Then you would be able to download your apps manually when you have wifi.
So I feel like the functionality is there, but that there's a problem with yours. I will try turning my cellular data for radio/apps/match on, and then turn automatic downloads off and see if that happens to me as well. I've had automatic downloads off since I got the beta because I like to do it myself, and I have had no problems with it turning itself back on.
So unless you want automatic downloads, but having the choice of toggling it for wifi only, then I think the way it's designed will suit your needs if/when it works right
I have been misunderstood. I was trying to find a way to: 1) inform apple, and request separate controls. 2) inform others using iOS 7 & iTunes Radio that this might happen to them.
Maybe most people don't care how much data they use, but, I get close to max on a regular basis, and have to watch it. It wasn't a complaint, but an observation. I know I am using beta software at my own risk.
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If this thread must be closed or deleted, that's fine. If someone has a better way for me to request a functionality of the phone before iOS 7 is complete, please send me a private message. Thanks!!
The functionality appears to be there but is not working as intended. ie. a bug. That's part of using beta software and if you had a developer account there would be a channel for you to report it. As it is, you are using the software outside of its user agreement so that channel is not open to you and you have no standing to make a request for them to change the software. I have no issue with you using the software, but you must realize that these are exactly the kinds of reasons Apple doesn't want people using this on their primary devices. Any number of potential bugs may exist or appear that use an excessive amount of cellular data.
But since you have the beta your a registered developer (normally) so submit the bugs and it'll get seen...
I have auto-updates turned off and it stays off. No automatic updates have ever happened. What you are experiencing is a problem only you (and maybe a few others) are having. It's not a common issue. This is beta software, so anything can and will go wrong from time to time.
Maybe this will help and hopefully they'll fix it.
I want to be able to have automatic updates turned on but ONLY auto update if I'm on wifi.
However, at the same time I want to be able to listen to iTunes Radio whether I am on wifi OR cellular.
As it is right now you can do one or the other but not both. It would be nice to have the "not use cellular" option more granular so you could turn cellular on for iTunes Radio but leave it off for auto updates. That way when I get home and have a wifi signal again my apps will auto update without me having to go into settings again and turn that on.
I want to be able to have automatic updates turned on but ONLY auto update if I'm on wifi.
However, at the same time I want to be able to listen to iTunes Radio whether I am on wifi OR cellular.
As it is right now you can do one or the other but not both. It would be nice to have the "not use cellular" option more granular so you could turn cellular on for iTunes Radio but leave it off for auto updates. That way when I get home and have a wifi signal again my apps will auto update without me having to go into settings again and turn that on.