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I have zero interest in a BR player as I have zero interest in BR. It's a dying platform. It used to be super expensive to get a player and now it's as cheap as buying a case of beer. Digital downloads are the way to go and as for 1080p vs. 720p, some of the people here act as if they are experts with eagle eyes, you can hardly tell the difference and they know it.

Let me get this right.

Something brand new comes out, and of course it's very expensive, and over time, due to manufacturing enhancements and mass production the price of the units come down.

This is the sign that something is dying?

OMG, That means Flat Screen TV's are a dying device :eek:

Hope you are happy with your 720p monitor on your Mac, as 1080 vertical resolution would look no better I guess?
 
Let me get this right.

Something brand new comes out, and of course it's very expensive, and over time, due to manufacturing enhancements and mass production the price of the units come down.

This is the sign that something is dying?

OMG, That means Flat Screen TV's are a dying device :eek:

Hope you are happy with your 720p monitor on your Mac, as 1080 vertical resolution would look no better I guess?

Uh, just to repeat what I told the other guy, "Even Microsoft agreed with Apple that BR is a dying platform". Funny how BR player prices have been dropped for even the homeless to afford but your average PC still doesn't come with them. :rolleyes:
 
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....."Even Microsoft agreed with Apple that BR is a dying platform"......

Microsoft only said it because Apple said it first. :D I got a chance to go into the MS store in Denver a while ago, and it is hilarious how much it is trying to be like an Apple store.

I would still challenge you to provide some research or numbers to back that claim up though. It's a bit extreme if you ask me. If your best defense is relying on word of mouth from Microsoft,.......well, that's just sad.
 
Uh, just to repeat what I told the other guy, "Even Microsoft agreed with Apple that BR is a dying platform". Funny how BR player prices have been dropped for even the homeless to afford but your average PC still doesn't come with them. :rolleyes:

The thing is, unless you have some time dimensional clip on that puts you out of phase with the rest of us, we are living in 2010 and looking forward to 2011.

And at this moment in time BluRay is the best for movies, and that's that.

People who want to enjoy the best format use BluRay now.

In the future, when BluRay is dead, and something better come along, at that point in time, people who want the best will then move on to what they best is then.

720p was the best, what? Around 4 to 5 years ago?

That's when people who wanted the best were buying 720p devices.

That was in the past. Today we have moved onto 1080p devices, and in the future hopefully something even better.

I don't get this concept that, Today, we will buy something of the quality of yesterday, as tomorrow what's on offer today will be gone.

Err, yeah, thats how we move forward.

Today you enjoy the best today has to offer, tomorrow you enjoy the best tomorrow has to offer.

How is that such a difficult concept.

It all boils down to Steve Jobs not wanting to fit BluRay drives in Mac computers as (as a company) he wants to make more money out of customers by getting them to pay him via iTunes for a 720p version of the 1080p BluRay version.

I can't blame him, he is in the business to make money, but let's not pretend the whole thing is for any other reason.

If Apple had fitted BluRay drives from day one, and Msoft were selling 720p movies from their online store, the whole Mac community would be ripping Msoft to shreds over it's backwards offering and you know it.
 
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Because the term film is used in the UK while over in North America the term movie is used. A Brit will also say, "I'm going to the pictures" (or whats starting to get popular is cinema) while an American will probably say, "I'm going to the movies".

Going to the pictures is a bit of an out dated term over here, but if someone said it we would understand them completely. My point is we have an extremely wide vocabulary, and in the UK it is common for something to have multiple words to describe something. E.g Cinema, pictures, flicks, the big screen, etc. Maybe it's because we use multiple Adjectives inconsistently that Apple thinks that it is ok to be inconsistent across Mac OS X. I guess that's ok then. :eek:
 
GAH! You had to use "Eclipse" as an example?!? Way to drive away readers from this site!

well that's how limited the overpriced content is. (gripe)

how come it's available on iPhone/Pad and :apple:TV ?? (gripe)

:apple: are idiots on the Bluray (gripe)

Eclipse fans prob love spending their £13 pocket money on it, actually i might give the homeless guy my £13 on my way home – Special Brew is money far better spent!
 
Yeah i'm pretty sure SJ said he didn't want to put old tech (BluRay) in their machines for their customers – so we have CD/DVD?? Heck i think i had that back in my TI PowerBook!

and then there's Core2Duo that's in my AL MacBook still about...

at least it's saving me money/debt, there's pretty much not a Mac i'd buy right now (which is rare). No USB3, :apple: just say if you're waiting on lightpeak.

AT LEAST SUPPORT BR if we want to plug our own in – Lion...?



The thing is, unless you have some time dimensional clip on that puts you out of phase with the rest of us, we are living in 2010 and looking forward to 2011.

And at this moment in time BluRay is the best for movies, and that's that.

People who want to enjoy the best format use BluRay now.

In the future, when BluRay is dead, and something better come along, at that point in time, people who want the best will then move on to what they best is then.

720p was the best, what? Around 4 to 5 years ago?

That's when people who wanted the best were buying 720p devices.

That was in the past. Today we have moved onto 1080p devices, and in the future hopefully something even better.

I don't get this concept that, Today, we will buy something of the quality of yesterday, as tomorrow what's on offer today will be gone.

Err, yeah, thats how we move forward.

Today you enjoy the best today has to offer, tomorrow you enjoy the best tomorrow has to offer.

How is that such a difficult concept.

It all boils down to Steve Jobs not wanting to fit BluRay drives in Mac computers as (as a company) he wants to make more money out of customers by getting them to pay him via iTunes for a 720p version of the 1080p BluRay version.

I can't blame him, he is in the business to make money, but let's not pretend the whole thing is for any other reason.

If Apple had fitted BluRay drives from day one, and Msoft were selling 720p movies from their online store, the whole Mac community would be ripping Msoft to shreds over it's backwards offering and you know it.
 
Blu-ray is not a dying platform. At best it loses popularity over time.
It is like saying nobody needs CDs anymore, because we have the super awesome iTunes Music Downloads - but paying the same price for a 256kBit/s AAC thingy than for a physical disc which you can rip onto your PC without quality loss? No one who is really serious about his music is going to do that.

Same with movies.
 
The thing is, unless you have some time dimensional clip on that puts you out of phase with the rest of us, we are living in 2010 and looking forward to 2011.

And at this moment in time BluRay is the best for movies, and that's that.

People who want to enjoy the best format use BluRay now.

In the future, when BluRay is dead, and something better come along, at that point in time, people who want the best will then move on to what they best is then.

720p was the best, what? Around 4 to 5 years ago?

That's when people who wanted the best were buying 720p devices.

That was in the past. Today we have moved onto 1080p devices, and in the future hopefully something even better.

I don't get this concept that, Today, we will buy something of the quality of yesterday, as tomorrow what's on offer today will be gone.

Err, yeah, thats how we move forward.

Today you enjoy the best today has to offer, tomorrow you enjoy the best tomorrow has to offer.

How is that such a difficult concept.

It all boils down to Steve Jobs not wanting to fit BluRay drives in Mac computers as (as a company) he wants to make more money out of customers by getting them to pay him via iTunes for a 720p version of the 1080p BluRay version.

I can't blame him, he is in the business to make money, but let's not pretend the whole thing is for any other reason.

If Apple had fitted BluRay drives from day one, and Msoft were selling 720p movies from their online store, the whole Mac community would be ripping Msoft to shreds over it's backwards offering and you know it.

Your entire post is so out of sync with reality it's just plain ridiculous. All this "WE" and "THE REST OF US"....PLEASE SPEAK FOR YOURSELF...Get real, the average person, which represents the majority of the consumer electronics buying crowd doesn't pretend to have this "Eagle Eye" for perfect video quality as you put it (but in different words) so humbly. On Black Friday people are looking for flat screens because they are BIG TV's, period. Sure, some family member told them to look for 720p or 1080p with at least 240hz frame rate but most of the time their focus is money and the biggest TV they can bring home and show off to their friends for under $500. A standard DVD still looks amazing to a lot of people and FYI, nothing is better than live broadcast.

720p, 4-5 years ago??? Yeah, tell that to the majority of people that still have non-HD capable TV's. :rolleyes:

Blu-Ray is still considered a niche product and the only reason you're seeing more people talk about it is because they either have a PS3 or a TV that accommodates the format. Yeah, when prices on a niche product begin to rapidly drop as they have on Blu-Ray that's a very good sign that the format is dying. It hasn't even become mainstream enough for the prices to drop so rapidly. Think about how hard drives have become so huge capacity, yet they are as cheap as buying a basic printer. Reason being, the concept of standard hard drives is dying as flash storage is stepping in.

Please do yourself a favor and stop thinking like the common geek for a moment and realize that most people outside of geek forums don't think like you. Just a hunch, but you're probably a kid living at home?
 
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When prices on a niche product begin to rapidly drop as they have on Blu-Ray that's a very good sign that the format is dying.
You have to be joking, DVDs start at £7/8 when new and they have been in decline for years.... is it dead? :(

You sir have no idea what you are talking about.
 
You have to be joking, DVDs start at £7/8 when new and they have been in decline for years.... is it dead? :(

You sir have no idea what you are talking about.

DVD isn't a niche product and it became mainstream quite fast. You can't say that about Blu-Ray. Nice that you can insult me though. Keep the discussion away from personal insults.
 
DVD isn't a niche product and it became mainstream quite fast. You can't say that about Blu-Ray.
You just said that prices falling = dying product but you now say it doesn't apply to DVD as it isn't niche. WTF. This proves your argument is deeply flawed.

BTW Blu-ray is mainstream has been for a while.
 
Blu-Ray is still considered a niche product and the only reason you're seeing more people talk about it is because they either have a PS3 or a TV that accommodates the format.

Blu-Ray sales comfortably beat downloaded digital purchases so do you agree that downloads must be even more of a niche product?
 
You just said that prices falling = dying product but you now say it doesn't apply to DVD as it isn't niche. WTF. This proves your argument is deeply flawed.

BTW Blu-ray is mainstream has been for a while.

Maybe if you took more time and "read" my posts you would understand my point, but don't waste your time. BR is mainstream??? Yeah right. I beg to differ (if you go down the street in your own neighborhood) that you'd find hardly 10 of your close neighbors with a Blu-Ray system with several BR disks outside of a Playstation. :rolleyes:
 
Anyways, you tell us that Microsoft aren't BR fans. This is hardly surprising if you consider that they backed the wrong horse in the HD-DVD vs BR war. I'd say they're still smarting from having to discontinue their HD-DVD add-on for the Xbox 360.
 
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DVD isn't a niche product and it became mainstream quite fast. You can't say that about Blu-Ray.

Yes you can.

BD became mainstream quite fast.

See how easy that was? Magic. :D

BD uptake is faster the DVD at the same time in their history.
Sorry to bother you with a fact. Bothersome, nasty little things.
 
Apple company was introduced the high definition new movies in the sales market in British. And the store keepers are given the reply that i pod movies are very limited that they want more. They like the new definition very much and it was in very demand. The Twilight Saga containing the highest profile definition. And I like it very much.

Huh?
 
Does anyone know if you still get a standard def download if you buy the HD version like you do with TV episodes?
 
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