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Do you use iTunes or Plex for videos?

  • iTunes

    Votes: 118 47.4%
  • Plex

    Votes: 131 52.6%

  • Total voters
    249
I'm all in on iTunes now - figured that if I'm going to be taking advantage of the apps in the future that I might as well have all my films on there as well.

And then Kodi on my Shield TV can be used for TV shows and Sport.
 
One of the upsides to using iTunes HomeSharing is that the videos are easily compatible with iDevices.

For example, if I'm flying somewhere tomorrow, I'll just plug in my iPad or iPhone and sync over a season of a TV show I like or a few unwatched movies. Since the files are already in iTunes, they just copy over and are available offline on my device pretty much right away, and I have uninterrupted entertainment without need for wifi or cellular or anything like that.

If Plex were to offer something similar, I think I would begin to make the switch.

Plex does exactly this, although it is one of the few bits that does require a PlexPass subscription. Plex Sync allows you to copy media for your library to any other mobile devices or even the cloud (e.g. Dropbox, etc). I've just back back from a holiday to the US where my iPad was filled with Disney movies to entertain my daughter on the flight :D
 
One of the upsides to using iTunes HomeSharing is that the videos are easily compatible with iDevices.

For example, if I'm flying somewhere tomorrow, I'll just plug in my iPad or iPhone and sync over a season of a TV show I like or a few unwatched movies. Since the files are already in iTunes, they just copy over and are available offline on my device pretty much right away, and I have uninterrupted entertainment without need for wifi or cellular or anything like that.

If Plex were to offer something similar, I think I would begin to make the switch.

It does.
 
One of the upsides to using iTunes HomeSharing is that the videos are easily compatible with iDevices.

For example, if I'm flying somewhere tomorrow, I'll just plug in my iPad or iPhone and sync over a season of a TV show I like or a few unwatched movies. Since the files are already in iTunes, they just copy over and are available offline on my device pretty much right away, and I have uninterrupted entertainment without need for wifi or cellular or anything like that.

If Plex were to offer something similar, I think I would begin to make the switch.

Plex does that also with sync
 
The problem is both solutions are as bad as each other.
OK plex you talk to DNLA device. iTunes is nearly useable if you have all ATVs, but the constant losing of clips arts and alike makes it soul destroying putting it back all the time.

I'd like a central solution that could run on a NAS server without the need for a compute device running the bitch that is iTunes. Shame ATV4 cant run or be that device and work more like google chrome.
 
Plex doesn't use DLNA (although you can if you want to) and the needed Plex media Server can run on a variety of NAS Systems.

Edit: Also, which is a nice touch especially since the Remote app isn't working with the new ATV, you can remote control Plex on ATV with your iPhone/iPad.
 
For those with the ATV4 and using plex, are you having any issues with MKV files with 5.1 sound? I've been using a roku 3 for a little while but it has issues with files with 5.1 sound. I'm not sure if it is a roku issue or plex issue but I'm thinking of picking up the ATV4.
 
For those with the ATV4 and using plex, are you having any issues with MKV files with 5.1 sound? I've been using a roku 3 for a little while but it has issues with files with 5.1 sound. I'm not sure if it is a roku issue or plex issue but I'm thinking of picking up the ATV4.
At one point I was only hearing 2.1 audio with MKV files, but keeping the Apple TV audio setting set to "auto" seemed to resolve it.
 
I'm really glad you guys who are happy with Plex are having a great time with it. My experience was far different.

Like many of the aTV people here, I simply wanted something that would work like iTunes but with a little more flexibility and perhaps not have to deal with Home Sharing (I never could quite grasp why Apple requires people to sign into iTunes on the aTV in order to play media, when they could have done the same thing using a randomly generated code on the screen of the local machine that could then be entered on the aTV, similar to BT pairing).

I didn't want Plex for the outside streaming features, which it seems is the biggest draw for Plex fans. I am never in the position to watch remotely, since my job involves lots of travel and I'm working nearly every minute I'm awake. My system was supposed to be a home Mac with no internet connection, in fact. I just wanted a media server that would grab movies and shows off the local drive and play them back on my plasma tv with minimum trouble.

I had a hell of a time getting Plex working on my system. Plex Inc seems to do a lot to try to convince people to sign up for their free cloud services, and I think some of the trouble was related to that. Everyone who tried to help with my install swore up and down that a net connection wasn't needed, but all of the Plex support stuff I read implied it was necessary. I tried using Plex Server alone, and also with the home theater app. Both had horrible interfaces, IMO. Maybe if it was ever up and running properly it would look better, but I never made it that far.

I've since downloaded and tried Kodi, and had mixed success. Its quite plain that Kodi is trying to be everything to everyone - and I'm still trying to figure it all out. (Who really needs a weather app in their media player?)
Its has more configurability than I could ever use, but the interface is not the best, in any of the builds or skins I've tried. And it still doesn't do what I'd really like - I'd just like to fire up the South Park or Engadget add-on or whatever, and throw the free episode on to my big screen. No such luck.

So for now, I'm still using iTunes and it works for everything else I want to do.
 
Without an internet connection plex is no use at all because it needs a net connection to get all the metadata like cover art and descriptions.

By the sounds of it you want something simple that just works so I would try NAStify player which is a simple list based file browser media player with no fancy cover art and descriptions.
 
I never could quite grasp why Apple requires people to sign into iTunes on the aTV in order to play media

Really? Seems pretty obvious to me, once you are signed into iTunes, you can click on things that result in a payment to Apple on your credit card. Notice how 4 out of 5 icons on the first row of the screen all take you to things that are for sale...
 
One of the upsides to using iTunes HomeSharing is that the videos are easily compatible with iDevices.

For example, if I'm flying somewhere tomorrow, I'll just plug in my iPad or iPhone and sync over a season of a TV show I like or a few unwatched movies. Since the files are already in iTunes, they just copy over and are available offline on my device pretty much right away, and I have uninterrupted entertainment without need for wifi or cellular or anything like that.

If Plex were to offer something similar, I think I would begin to make the switch.

Plex does offer this. You can sync content via the Plex app to be available offline. It takes care of all the transcoding (if needed) and transfers the content. Very simple and straight forward. I cannot remember if you have to be a PlexPass member or not as I am one. I have utilized this feature so many times when I travel.

The one negative is that it does take awhile to sync an entire season of a TV Show if transcoding is necessary. But you can choose the video quality to manage the size of the files being stored on your device. That is a big plus.
 
Really? Seems pretty obvious to me, once you are signed into iTunes, you can click on things that result in a payment to Apple on your credit card. Notice how 4 out of 5 icons on the first row of the screen all take you to things that are for sale...

My post was unclear so I'll restate it a little better: I can't understand why Apple requires people to sign into iTunes in order to play locally stored media over Home Sharing.

I doubt it has anything to do with getting people to spend money at the iTunes store. Its unusual that all these companies that offer media players are turning them into services instead of standalone apps. AppleTV is a great device that should be able to work with a local install of iTunes and its related media library, without "authenticating" it via an iTunes account, especially since a standard aTV setup is on the same side of the local firewall as the Mac that is holding the media. I can wifi to my printer with a PIN, but I need to be signed into iTunes in order to use my own media?
 
Without an internet connection plex is no use at all because it needs a net connection to get all the metadata like cover art and descriptions.

All of my media already has cover art embedded. I put all my files through iFlicks. I guess Plex doesn't like that? It should still work. It doesn't.

By the sounds of it you want something simple that just works so I would try NAStify player which is a simple list based file browser media player with no fancy cover art and descriptions.

I thought that would be a Mac app, but NAStify turns out to be an iOS app. I'm really not interested in watching movies on my iPhone, and I'll never use a Chromecast, so that app wouldn't do anything for me.

I'm looking for a good media player that I can run on a local iMac - without a net connection - and send the movie or whatever to the local (non-smart) HDTV. When my aTV works over homesharing, it is fine. A little quirky, but fine. When it doesn't work, I want to fling it out the window and try something else.
 
Plex is creepy...

When I was attempting to install it, I disconnected the test machine from the net and I'm glad I did. Despite telling the PMS that I didn't want it to have access to photos, it found hundreds on the drive and copied them all in. There was no way to delete them from Plex, either. I had to delete the entire install, and even then it still had some stuff hidden away on the drive.

I reinstalled Plex Media Server a bit later on, after getting some advice from people here. This time, the install took seconds instead of minutes, and it came back up exactly as it was prior to the last deletion. The photos were already in there, and the server had the "friendly" name I gave it last time. I found more layers of files hidden in places that the Plex Support docs didn't mention.

Delete.

A couple of days ago I was looking through their online docs and I find this:

"Tip!: Whether or not you decide to enable Remote Access, you should always sign the Plex Media Server (not just Plex Web App itself) in to your Plex account."

Really? Why? The only reason that account is needed is for the remote functions. So why would it be needed if those functions aren't enabled?

Maybe I should get on their forums and ask. But.. wait for it... the forum signup is actually another way to get a person to get a Plex account.

I'd email them to ask what they're trying to do, but I'm betting the simple act of emailing will get me a reply that says "Thanks for your inquiry! We've taken the liberty of setting up a free Plex account for your email address so you can access our help forums! Here's your temporary password.... "
 
I doubt it has anything to do with getting people to spend money at the iTunes store.

First, I also wish it was easier to access my local content via iTunes. I have a large library and that is what I use the AppleTV for 90% of the time since my internet connection is very slow.

But I disagree with you on this point. It seems quite clear that Apple views the ATV as way to sell you media. They would like you to have it all on their servers where they can control it. Just look at how they have stopped offering downloadable iTunes extras recently. Now you have to stream them. And when there's an internet outage, I can't access my libary at all - not even the DVDs I ripped.

If they wanted to make it easy to access your local content, that would be quite simple. So I have to conclude they intentionally make it difficult. But "it is what it is", I still use my two AppleTVs every day and have gotten used to the limitations.
 
First, I also wish it was easier to access my local content via iTunes. I have a large library and that is what I use the AppleTV for 90% of the time since my internet connection is very slow.

So what difficulties have you run into playing from your local library? I've had trouble with both Airplay and Homesharing. Using Airplay, I've had problems with movies taking 4 or 5 tries to get them to play all the way through the first 5 minutes. Great when I'm sitting down to hot food and want to watch a movie and I have to keep getting up and restarting the movie on the iMac.
Using Homesharing, I get the spinning sphincter on a black screen sometimes when I start a movie, and I have to restart it several times to get it to play. After going to El Capitan X, it seems to have gotten worse. Sometimes I have to turn off the wifi on the iMac and turn it back on before the movie will play. Again, this kind of defeats the purpose of having remote storage of digital media in the first place, and is a big reason why I'm looking at media software.

But I disagree with you on this point. It seems quite clear that Apple views the ATV as way to sell you media. They would like you to have it all on their servers where they can control it. Just look at how they have stopped offering downloadable iTunes extras recently. Now you have to stream them. And when there's an internet outage, I can't access my libary at all - not even the DVDs I ripped.

I definitely will agree that Apple looks at aTV as a media outlet for profit. Thats what they do. I'm just doubting they want the account signed in to increase that profit opportunity. I've never bought a single bit of data via iTunes, and I don't have a credit card attached to my account. My sole financial contribution since the store came on line was adding a friend's iTunes gift card to my account. That money is still there, too.

If they wanted to make it easy to access your local content, that would be quite simple. So I have to conclude they intentionally make it difficult. But "it is what it is", I still use my two AppleTVs every day and have gotten used to the limitations.

Apple specifically, and the entire computing world in general, seem determined to move everything to "the cloud". (I always put that in quotes to show my disdain for a buzzword that seems to have achieved sentience, like when the word "multimedia" was thrown around at every conceivable instance back in the mid nineties. That made walking around at CES an even worse headache than it usually was.)

The more I think about this sign-in, the more I have to wonder why they do it, since the aTV absolutely HAS to be signed into the wifi router to make it work at all. Thats a big chunk of authentication there, and it should then take only a simple PIN to get it to communicate with the iTunes application on the local machine.

This all reminds me of how Blu-ray players keep notes on every disc put in the player, and then report that information when the player is net-connected. I'm wondering if the iTunes sign-in requirement for Home Share is a way for Apple to monitor what people are watching when they use non-iTunes media? In the case of companies like Plex its immediately apparent to me that they want to have info on everything you watch, but since they aren't a media outlet, why would they want that info? What are they up to? Regarding Apple, you could make the case that they want to make their media offerings more "finely tailored" to the individual user, but every aTV shows the same content offerings on the movie and TV pages. So what is Apple up to?
 
So what difficulties have you run into playing from your local library?

Virtually no problems at all. I never use airplay, just my local iTunes library. But when my daughter's family visits, they use airplay from their phones and iPads and I don't recall ever having a problem. I have a Mini that runs 24/7 as an iTunes server with my library on a 3TB external drive. The Mini is running MacOSX 10.9, which is what it originally shipped with. I have not updated iTunes on it either. I have two AppleTV 3s that are running the latest firmware (AFAIK). The ATVs and Mini are all on hardwired gigabit ethernet.

I've got about 600 movies and 600 TV shows in my library. I think about 25 of them are iTunes purchases, the rest were all ripped from DVD. This setup has been very robust for me, which is why I have stuck with it and put up with the user interface, which could definitely be improved. :)
 
What were you talking about when you said "First, I also wish it was easier to access my local content via iTunes"? I thought you meant you were having problems with it.
 
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