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I'm not sure which thread to put this in, but this is as good as any...

On the Apple site, they mention that the iPod Touch will save your home network settings for Wi-Fi. I'm wondering if it will save others. I'm regularly at several friends' houses...and it would be nice if it saved those network passwords and such.

By the way, does the Touch/iPhone hook up fine with WEP/WPA encrypted networks?
 
Podcasts over Wi-Fi....

I would hope that podcasts are possible over Wi-Fi. Heck Jobs made a huge point of stating that this was a full-fledged iTunes store, not a gimped version. The same with it being a real Safari version.

I would definitely like to see the capability implemented. Being able to download podcasts on the go if I stopped into a Panera or Wi-Fi area would really be amazing. I'd definitely listen to them more since I don't sync my device THAT often unless I've added a lot of new music.
 
Nice feature, I wouldn't use it but it was one of the major detractors of the Zune's wireless networking capabilities. The tie in with Starbucks is a fancy feature, sad that it didn't come with free wifi access apart from to buy the songs (that's how I am reading it), and I wonder what Starbucks are getting in return, or if other venues will arrange deals with Apple.

The killer application for a device like this is being able to buy it, and get free wireless with nationwide providers (e.g., the cloud in the UK) because it comes with the device.
 
WiFi store is great for a few things.

1. Airports. They sell iPods in vending machines at airports but what good is that if you can't get any songs on it? Buy an iPod touch and start downloading.

2. AppleTV, this is the prelude to an AppleTV update which also has the store. Buy video and songs right from your couch. The movie downloads and syncs back to your computer. It's more convenient to browse movies and buy one from the TV than running up stairs to make your purchase and then waiting for it to finish so you can stream it. Just watch as it downloads right to the AppleTV.

3. WiFi store is a bit ahead of its time but a lot of cities are now starting to plan rollouts of wifi networks throughout their cities for use by their residents. In 10 years WiFi will be everywhere (well wimax by then but...). Wifi everywhere = iTunes and internet everywhere.


Specifically having wifi everywhere and a computer back at home which you can browse documents on remotely (remember that from the Leopard demos?) you will be able to use coverflow (this is why it's part of finder.. to get people used to the file browse metaphor) on your iPod or iPhone to get at your files back on your computer. The iPhone/iPod is become an extension of your desktop. It's your computer away from the computer.
 
Wifi Roll Out

Checking dates for iPod touch ship dates and availability of Wifi Store for iPhone as written on Apple's web site, definitely sounds like the iPhone update to support the Wifi Store is timed so that the Wifi Store, the iPod touches and the iPhone access to the Wifi Store all roll out at the same time -- end of this month.

No mention of EDGE. I doubt it supports it. Not yet, anyway.

And, yep, I bet they will update Apple TV for the Wifi Store, too. Cool.
 
I don't get it. So they factored out the iTunes Store part of iTunes, right? The iPhone is OSX, iTunes runs on OSX.... this is iTunes with some parts turned off.

Or am I completely missing something?

I run the iTunes Store 'for WiFi' on my Mac all the time...
 
So if you buy a song from the iTMS on your iPhone/iPod Touch, does it sync to your iTunes Library on your computer?
 
Nice feature, I wouldn't use it but it was one of the major detractors of the Zune's wireless networking capabilities. The tie in with Starbucks is a fancy feature, sad that it didn't come with free wifi access apart from to buy the songs (that's how I am reading it), and I wonder what Starbucks are getting in return, or if other venues will arrange deals with Apple.

The killer application for a device like this is being able to buy it, and get free wireless with nationwide providers (e.g., the cloud in the UK) because it comes with the device.

The Cloud is going to be awesome with this device. You can get coverage literally everywhere in central Manchester
 
Why did they name it the iTunes WiFi Music Store instead of the iTunes WiFi Store? Do they have no plans ever to handle any other type of download?
 
Apple is probably gearing up to release a JESUS patch.
My guess is that it will have a ton of bug fixes, WiFi iTunes, and probably at least three other new homescreen apps.
(Just a guess though)

I agree. Right before the holiday to really drum up excitement.

My prediction on the 3 "missing" apps:

iChat
Sports Ticker
???


I'd love to think the 3rd one is Skype or something of that ilk, but there is no way that is going to happen.
 
I hope you can download over edge. Cingular or AT&T lets you do it through their service, but i'm sure not many people do it so it doens't really slow down the network. I feel like Wi-fi is useless because I'm never in a wi-fi hotspot unless i'm home or in another house. Maybe in 10 years, but who will still have the same iphone/ipod?
 
I was looking at the iTS icon for the iPhone, and Steve shows it on the left side. :confused: It got me to thinking... Maybe we'll see three other apps to fill in those spaces before it's released... Whadya think?
 

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Checking dates for iPod touch ship dates and availability of Wifi Store for iPhone as written on Apple's web site, definitely sounds like the iPhone update to support the Wifi Store is timed so that the Wifi Store, the iPod touches and the iPhone access to the Wifi Store all roll out at the same time -- end of this month.


Except for the fact that Apple states the Wi-Fi store is available today!

http://www.apple.com/startpage/

Introducing the iTunes Wi-Fi Music Store
Starting today, you can enter the new iTunes Wi-Fi Music Store
; wirelessly browse, search, preview, purchase, and download songs or albums to your iPhone or iPod touch; then immediately listen to your new music after it downloads. Once you get back to your Mac or PC, iTunes automatically recognizes the new music and syncs it with your existing library. iTunes will even complete the download of any partially downloaded songs or albums.
 
As others have mentioned, what about non-audio content? I wouldn't mind being able to download video podcasts when in range of a WiFi hotspot. Now that the iPhone is more affordable, it's more possible that I'd get one. If they enable this to work over EDGE, I could download weekly video podcasts such as MacBreak where ever I am, whether in a WiFi network coverage area or not. This is truly a happy day. :apple: ROCKS!
 
Yup we really need to find out if we can download podcasts over the wifi store.

I have a feeling it won't have podcasts.

I have a feeling I'll be getting my iPhone sometime next week due to me getting the first check at the new job. I know this is another thread's discussion, but I'm happy I waited. $399 for an 8GB iPhone is awesome! When I have it I'll try out the iTunes WiFi [Music] Store and I'll report whether or not podcasts are elligible to download. I really hope they are. I have months upon months of MacOSKen to catch up on lol.
 
My question is does the iTunes WiFi Music Store know which songs or albums you have purchased in the past or only what is on your iPod Touch or iPhone or does it know nothing?

I am sure Steve Jobs owns all Dylan and Lennon songs but the demo did not prompt him with a message that he already purchased the songs (yes I understand it was only a demo).

I ask because what if you really want to or need to listen to a song and you already own it but you are one the road and it is not on your device. Will it allow you to download the song again? This will cost you more but you get instant gratification. Whereas if you can't download it will people be upset that they have to sync with their computer to get it on their device?

Just been on my mind...
 
My question is does the iTunes WiFi Music Store know which songs or albums you have purchased in the past or only what is on your iPod Touch or iPhone or does it know nothing?
I assume it knows, but it would be smart to test it once to make sure. In theory, it might even depend on whether or not the song was stored on your iPod at the time, but I'm guessing it will be smart about it.
 
I assume it knows, but it would be smart to test it once to make sure. In theory, it might even depend on whether or not the song was stored on your iPod at the time, but I'm guessing it will be smart about it.

Think of "iTunes WiFi Music Store" as mere branding. A good analogy is that there is a version of iTunes for the Mac and one for Windows, and now there will be one for iPhode (you like that? iPhode? I mean the iPod touch is just a stripped iPhone running the same OS with same interface; so iPhode represents the capabilities they share.) So, if you buy music from two computers authorized to your account, your Windows PC you are forced at gunpoint to use at work, and your your lovely Mac at home, iTunes Store still knows what you bought. (And remember you can now transfer purchased music from one authorized computer to another via your iPod. It'll ask you and copy it over, to the iTunes computer the iPod or or iPhode is associated with.)

It's just a custom auto body style, really -- all on top of the same frame and engine. Everything is tied to your Apple ID, which is your iTunes Store account name. Doesn't matter from where you buy.

Now whether or not you'll have to burn up a computer authorization for your iPhode, I don't know. I doubt it, since you can authorize only so many computers running iTunes but you can sync as many iPods as you wish with those computers authorized for your purchased music. And since the iPhode is just an iPod that can buy, it doesn't really change anything about the licensing arrangement. The purchased tracks just get to the iPod before they get to the authorized computer's iTunes library, a first, but it doesn't actually increase the number of computers authorized to play purchased music (yeah, I know iPhode is really just a small, rather powerful computer, but for simplicity's sake). iPod and iPhode count is unlimited and it will only sync your WiFi purchased music with computer already authorized. So noo problem.

Whew! I'm longwinded tonight. But you get it: the account and account history goes with the store, not the device, and the WiFi Music Store is just a different interface on the same store, one that displays things in a different way, won't allow video purchases and has some other unique features (Starbucks tie-in stuff), but it's still the same iTunes Store running it all.
 
iTS WiFi downloads?

So, it sounds like you can download a song and "store" it on your iPhone or iPod touch. Does anyone think that this feature of "storing" a downloaded file on your iPhone will lead to the ability to download and "store" lets say attachments in mail?
 
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