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Ivy Bridge Mac Mini

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ranny2

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Hi there,

Before I start, this is NOT a "should I buy now or wait" question.

I was just wondering what your thoughts on the next generation Mini are. Will it be Ivy Bridge? What will the specs be? Will it be quad core across the board? You know what I mean!

Also, wha are your thoughts on availability? Do you think we will see it next summer like this year? Thanks guys :)
 
i hope they'll be cooler and therefor quieter than the current models.

performance wise i'm pretty content with the 2011 mini server.

an i7 quad with dedicated graphics would be great...although i read that the ivy bridge CPUs will have some kind of super duper integrated graphics? can anyone confirm this?
 
useme2305 said:
i hope they'll be cooler and therefor quieter than the current models.

performance wise i'm pretty content with the 2011 mini server.

an i7 quad with dedicated graphics would be great...although i read that the ivy bridge CPUs will have some kind of super duper integrated graphics? can anyone confirm this?
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Better graphics than current integrated i-series options - yes.

Super duper - highly doubtful.
 
Yea, Ivy Bridge will be much cooler and will draw less power. Having said that, the current Minis are pretty cool and quiet aren't they?
 
I don't think I'd ever buy a Mini, but I think it would be cool if they got USB 3.0 ... Thunderbolt is nice on paper, but I don't think it does much for the average consumer.

I personally couldn't afford (or wouldn't pay for rather) any of the TB storage solutions currently out.
 
Thanks for your opinion!

I have another thread on MacRumors at the moment regarding help choosing my first Mac. I was wondering whether any of you could take a look, as I can see by your signatures that you have products similar to ones I am considering, and I could really do with some advice!

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1263647/

Thanks.
 
I hope that the Ivy Bridge GPU will finally have properly instituted 23.976 FPS output. If Intel doesn't get it right on the third try, they are hopeless!

Just order a 2011 Mini server model last night and should be here by Friday! Can't wait to resume ripping my Blurays!

habe
 
Define warm. Mine gets to about no more than 42 degrees Celsius.

Currently, it is 33.

I would also like the base model to offer a 128 GB SSD option.
 
mine is at 85°C right now as i'm watching tv with eyetv at 1080i (sky sports) with 75% free CPU processing power. that's pretty hot if you ask me. the fan is at 2850rpm right now and i can clearly hear it over the sound the the game i'm watching.

EDIT: btw, i'm on the 2011 mini server i7 quad with 8gb ram.
 
The integrated graphics is supposed to be up to 60% faster on an Ivy Bridge Mac mini. The USB 3.0 connection will be a solid upgrade and there is potential of a quad in the base. I think it will be 20% faster than the current mini but who knows.
 
mr.steevo said:
The integrated graphics is supposed to be up to 60% faster on an Ivy Bridge Mac mini. The USB 3.0 connection will be a solid upgrade and there is potential of a quad in the base. I think it will be 20% faster than the current mini but who knows.
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Any idea when the new mini is due out?
 
The Ivy Bridge processors are due out in April I believe so the Mini itself I would expect maybe in September.
 
I'm still dreaming about a second Ethernet port in my old Mac mini to make it a real router/firewall.

Yes, I have a USB -GB adapter but I want it native build in. Maybe TB in a next Mini brings some options when Apple gpdont give us a second port per default.
 
Speculation warning !

Panther Point, Ivy Bridge chipsets if you want, will natively support USB 3.0. This feature is not included on the low end one, but I doubt Apple will use that for the Mac mini. We are most likely to see a HM77 in the Mac mini with support for RAID, SATA 6Gbps and USB 3.0.

On the processor side, if Apple keeps the same thermal design as the 2011 models, we are probably going to see a i5-3320M (dual cores, 35W, 2.6GHz) in the base model, a i5-3360M (dual cores, 35W, 2.8MHz) in the higher end model and a i7-3720QM (quad cores, 45W, 2.6MHz) in the Mac mini server. Quad cores 35W Ivy bridges are available to Apple, I just doubt they will use them. They come in a 2.1GHz or 2.3GHz configuration.
 
ranny2 said:
Hi there,

Before I start, this is NOT a "should I buy now or wait" question.

I was just wondering what your thoughts on the next generation Mini are. Will it be Ivy Bridge? What will the specs be? Will it be quad core across the board? You know what I mean!

Also, wha are your thoughts on availability? Do you think we will see it next summer like this year? Thanks guys :)
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From what I've heard, on Macs where a dual-core Sandy Bridge Mobile CPU was used, a quad core Ivy Bridge Mobile CPU will be usable. So yeah, quad core down the line is certainly within the realm of possibility.

As for when, I'd speculate that we won't see an Ivy Bridge Mac mini until after we see an Ivy Bridge MacBook Pro. If the Mac mini gets an update before then, it'll be another round of Sandy Bridge which will last until that point. At least, that's my guess.
 
Yebubbleman said:
From what I've heard, on Macs where a dual-core Sandy Bridge Mobile CPU was used, a quad core Ivy Bridge Mobile CPU will be usable. So yeah, quad core down the line is certainly within the realm of possibility.

As for when, I'd speculate that we won't see an Ivy Bridge Mac mini until after we see an Ivy Bridge MacBook Pro. If the Mac mini gets an update before then, it'll be another round of Sandy Bridge which will last until that point. At least, that's my guess.
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no we don't have a sandy bridge mac pro that is the next mac pro. as of today sandy bridge server chips get released in march. this means a sandy bridge mac pro in late feb to june?

ivy bridge mobile . chips are due in april so a new mini in june?

btw t-bolt is starting to make some gear available.

1 drive 1 cable plugin ssds come out in feb from elgato tooo much dough 429 for a 120 gb t-bolt ssd.

so far lacie's LBD seems pretty good.

f you diy see what 830 buys you. a mod of the LBD with a 256gb ssd and a raid0 2tb


https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1280118/


go to page 3 and see the newer setup I built. in about 20 minutes for around 830
 
I'd love to see June for an IB Mini though I would rather forecast it later in case it doesn't come out then. My only concern will be what the OEM SSD is. In the meantime, I'll be waiting for Haswell.
 
Adamantoise said:
I don't think I'd ever buy a Mini, but I think it would be cool if they got USB 3.0 ... Thunderbolt is nice on paper, but I don't think it does much for the average consumer.

I personally couldn't afford (or wouldn't pay for rather) any of the TB storage solutions currently out.
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I think (or hope should I say) Thunderbolt will get a lot more popular once it gets on the PC,which should help drive prices down,and hopefully give us a lot more choices....I hope. :confused:
 
MrSEC said:
I think (or hope should I say) Thunderbolt will get a lot more popular once it gets on the PC,which should help drive prices down,and hopefully give us a lot more choices....I hope. :confused:
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The problem is that Thunderbolt actually costs every penny charged to mass-produce. The $50 Thunderbolt cable? Gizmodo did a special on it and apparently, the cost of the materials used was actually that high and Apple just breaks even on selling them. PC adoption, while helping the standard live on and be included on things, won't help the price go down. Further engineering? That'll probably be what eventually brings the cost down.

philipma1957 said:
no we don't have a sandy bridge mac pro that is the next mac pro. as of today sandy bridge server chips get released in march. this means a sandy bridge mac pro in late feb to june?

ivy bridge mobile . chips are due in april so a new mini in june?

btw t-bolt is starting to make some gear available.

1 drive 1 cable plugin ssds come out in feb from elgato tooo much dough 429 for a 120 gb t-bolt ssd.

so far lacie's LBD seems pretty good.

f you diy see what 830 buys you. a mod of the LBD with a 256gb ssd and a raid0 2tb


https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1280118/


go to page 3 and see the newer setup I built. in about 20 minutes for around 830
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I never said anything about the next Mac Pro stuff, I was talking about the next MacBook Pro stuff. And again, I maintain that Apple won't beef up the Mac mini to Ivy Bridge until the MacBook Pro line is either discontinued (which is unlikely) or first updated to it. The Mac Pro uses entirely different CPUs and is thusly on an entirely different timeframe.
 
Yebubbleman said:
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I never said anything about the next Mac Pro stuff, I was talking about the next MacBook Pro stuff. And again, I maintain that Apple won't beef up the Mac mini to Ivy Bridge until the MacBook Pro line is either discontinued (which is unlikely) or first updated to it. The Mac Pro uses entirely different CPUs and is thusly on an entirely different timeframe.
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my bad I misread your post.


Most of the time macbook pro gets the first upgrade although the oct 2009 hi end mac mini was upgraded ahead of the base macbook pros. so 1 time mac mini was first and at least 10 times macbook pro was first.


the macbook pro 13 inch was inferior. 2.26 and with one hi end option 2.53 cpu's



the 2009 mac mini 2.26 with two hi end options 2.53 and 2.66 cpu's


this was true from oct 2009 to 2010 in mid 2010 the 13 inch macbook pro gave a 2.66 option.

so the 13 inch macbook pro does not always come first.
 

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Yebubbleman said:
The problem is that Thunderbolt actually costs every penny charged to mass-produce. The $50 Thunderbolt cable? Gizmodo did a special on it and apparently, the cost of the materials used was actually that high and Apple just breaks even on selling them. PC adoption, while helping the standard live on and be included on things, won't help the price go down. Further engineering? That'll probably be what eventually brings the cost down.
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I read that,and you're probably right.I'm just thinking out loud.I own a Mac Mini and the 27-inch thunderbolt display,so I'm keeping my fingers crossed. :D

What I would like to be able to do is run Final Cut Pro X,or Adobe Premiere off of an external hdd with the Thunderbolt daisy chained to an external video card and HDD....and not have to pay an arm and a leg,but it's not looking to good right now.
 
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philipma1957 said:
my bad I misread your post.


Most of the time macbook pro gets the first upgrade although the oct 2009 hi end mac mini was upgraded ahead of the base macbook pros. so 1 time mac mini was first and at least 10 times macbook pro was first.


the macbook pro 13 inch was inferior. 2.26 and with one hi end option 2.53 cpu's



the 2009 mac mini 2.26 with two hi end options 2.53 and 2.66 cpu's


this was true from oct 2009 to 2010 in mid 2010 the 13 inch macbook pro gave a 2.66 option.

so the 13 inch macbook pro does not always come first.
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The Late 2009 mini used the same CPUs as the Mid 2010 13" MacBook Pro, which was first. The only exception is the higher-end 2.66 GHz Core 2 Duo option, but it's not like the current higher-end Mac mini doesn't have an AMD Radeon HD 6630M discrete GPU that the current 13" MacBook Pros both don't have. So, so far, the 13" MacBook Pros (as well as the 15" and 17" models too) have so far all been given the newer tech first. That being said, our data is only four revisions long, which isn't enough; Apple could throw a curveball into that.

MrSEC said:
I read that,and you're probably right.I'm just thinking out loud.I own a Mac Mini and the 27-inch thunderbolt display,so I'm keeping my fingers crossed. :D

What I would like to be able to do is run Final Cut Pro X,or Adobe Premiere off of an external hdd with the Thunderbolt daisy chained to an external video card and HDD....and not have to pay an arm and a leg,but it's not looking to good right now.
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Are there even external Thunderbolt video cards out there right now? I'd say just get the higher-end Mac mini with the AMD Radeon HD 6630M (which, for FCP X should be plenty sufficient), and don't get the Thunderbolt display. For what it is, it's worth every penny, but if you don't need the high resolution it offers, there's no point.
 
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