I think what the original poster means is that it will increase the CPU/GPU work load and thus increase the chance of bottlenecks.
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Ivy Bridge to Bring Triple Display Support to MacBook Air
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I think what the original poster means is that it will increase the CPU/GPU work load and thus increase the chance of bottlenecks.
NO! NO! NO! Don't say that - T-Bolt is magical and can do everything, even peta-bit Ethernet.
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OK, it's better now. I realize that you were joking and didn't mean to imply that T-Bolt has limits.
Intel is stating that they serious increase performance of the GPU's - if this thing truly performs the way it states here - then Intel maybe correct.
Plus these cpu's are likely to be a lot faster also.
I would love to have a 3 monitor setup. At work I have a nice Dell Precision M6500 17" portable workstation with a slick Core i7 processor and some crazy expensive video card in it along with a dual DVI docking station and I thought I would be able to display out to two 20" monitors while also using the systems 17" screen for a 3 display system. Unfortunately it can only see 2 monitors. Pisses me off that such an expensive machine is so crippled.
I haven't really tested this, but I think I had two LCD HDTVs and a projector all running at the same time last week with my MacBook Pro. I have my house setup that I can see the screen in any of those three rooms (exercise room, computer room, and movie room).
But it is the same image, not two or three desktops on different screens.
But it is the same image, not two or three desktops on different screens.
Only difference here is the MacBook AIR is about the size of LCD screen on machine. I have a similar work machine with dual 24in monitors and dual hard drives in raid 0 ( Lenovo ) and is 2 years old. The GPU in the unit probably draws more power than the MBA I am typing this on now.
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My 2010 11in MBA actually ran 3 screens but not sure how much it counts - 24in monitor hook to mini-display port , and also my iPad running Air display
FYI, like you sig in reference to 1984.
I have to say it is nice to see more laptop manufactures supporting 3 monitors on their laptops (2 external and internal).
3 monitor set up is really good for multimonitor work and after that point is truly getting over kill.
It kind of annoying that most laptops out there only support 2 screens max.
3 monitor set up is really good for multimonitor work and after that point is truly getting over kill.
It kind of annoying that most laptops out there only support 2 screens max.
I'm thinking that running internal display + 2 screens (and I'm assuming apples 27" 2560x1440 here) would require a bit of VRAM. Since the GPU shares the computers memory, I hope this is a sign that we will see 8Gb options
I'm thinking that running internal display + 2 screens (and I'm assuming apples 27" 2560x1440 here) would require a bit of VRAM. Since the GPU shares the computers memory, I hope this is a sign that we will see 8Gb options
It requires a lot less than you think.
It is not like extra displays tend to drive an insane amount of graphics. For the most part they are windows and displays. Graphic games suck up more power running on a single monitor than on the multi display system require.
Haha, nice sig!
This is nice but doesn't make a ton of sense since Lion is so anti multiple monitors.
I am about to upgrade my Mac Pro video workstation with dual Cinema Displays to Lion and FCP X and I am seriously considering ditching the Cinema Displays and just getting one 27" LED Cinema Display because Lion is catered so much that way.
Sucks that the Mac Pro doesn't have thunderbolt.
I'm running 5 large displays on my 1st gen Mac Pro without any problems under Mac OS 10.7 Lion. So Lion will handle the extra screens very well. It is just some of the features that seem not to want more than one screen, i.e. full screen mode.
A 27" Apple LED screen is only 16:9 ratio so it misses out on 10% of the available pixels of the regular computer 16:10 ratio screen. Thus the meaning that the 27" screen also being only a glossy screen should be called a semi-pro model at the most.
Actually in many ways Lion is anti Mac so I can easily see how you can say that it likes 1 screen the best.
... current MBA's. The Intel GPU in the Ivy will have much better 3D support. (At least this is what Intel states.)
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I'm thinking that running internal display + 2 screens (and I'm assuming apples 27" 2560x1440 here) would require a bit of VRAM. Since the GPU shares the computers memory, I hope this is a sign that we will see 8Gb options
Hopefully, at last, there'll be a 8GB RAM config option. I haven't gone the Air way as yet because of the 4GB limit, which sucks big time. (I've been using 8GB in my late 2009 MBP17" for over a year and couldn't imagine my life without it.)
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Yup, Apple should consider producing 16:10 large monitors - as was the 30" ACD.
"Only" a glossy screen? Have you ever seen a Dell high-end IPS monitor (for example, the U2711 or the U3011) with its over-aggressive antiglare coating? While I have several high-end, A/Txxp (professional) Thinkpads (before the t61p, meaning still IPS screens), the coating makes them much less pleasing to the eye than Apple's glossy monitors. No wonder a lot of people are continuously trying to get rid of their AG coating from their monitors (see e.g. http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1565751&page=3 ). There IS a reason Apple is sticking with glossy screens - unlike almost all other manufacturers.
Soon we'll be saying that life was ruff when we only had 8 GB of memory on our system. My Mac Pro has 16 GB of memory with it. When it was new over 5 years ago I never got low or not enough memory warnings. Now that is happening more of the time. My 17" mid 2010 MacBook Pro has like yours 8 GB of memory. I just have to remember not to have as many apps open at one time. Most of the time that is easy since I only run 2 displays as opposed to 5 displays on my Mac Pro.
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My 30" IPS HP displays give me a better picture than my 30" Apple display. So they are out there.
Yup... NOW, however, all current Air models are, IMHO, severely restricted by not supporting more than 4GB of RAM, while Pros can use 8/16GB of RAM.
Don't forget the 30" ACD is
1, also have a matte version? matte only?
2, is a pretty old (2004) model discontinued in 2010 without any current 30" model
No wonder your HP display (is it a HP zr30w? It is a 2010 model - six years newer than Apple's one) is better. In addition, HP's models have always been on the lighter side of AG coating, unlike Dell's (strong AG) models.
(Personally, I'd prefer a new LED backlit 30" 16:10 monitor with Thunderbolt and, preferably, DL HDMI and/or DisplayPort, preferably with some analogue inputs in addition. Too bad they have completely abandoned 16:10 high-res monitors - I hate 16:9.)
I can't really see the need for this, just improve the internal screens instead and fix a release before may...
Wait... you're talking about video editing ?
Why ? This is not a thread about video editing, it's a thread about supporting 2 external monitors without having to rely on something like the Matrox products or a USB (ugh... POS) display adapter.
As a programmer who spends his days in text editors and with documentation, terminal windows and debuggers up and running, I can tell you more pixels are always welcomed and frankly, the MBA can shine as a programming machine (highly portable for the road warrior and great on the desk with external peripherals plugged in to make it act as a desktop).
Not everything in life is about video editing, audio engineering or graphics artists. Sometimes you guys forget you're not the only ones who use these things called computers.
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Compared to Intel's current offering, sure. Compared to other offerings on the market ? They'll still be 1-2 years late.
Intel. Does. Not. Understand. GPUs.
That has been a fact since the i740 shipped, touting itself as the "AGP reference!". The reference for sucking was more like it. They have sucked ever since. Intel can't make a decent GPU to save their lives.
I actually switched from a MacBook Pro to the 13inch MacBook Air just for the road warrior factor. I'm a web designer and travel quite a bit. And I think the Air handles light video, audio and photoshop editing well. As well as handling all my coding. However I did go from the Core2Duo to the new Sandy Bridge. And my video editing is mostly screen casts and short web videos. But it I don't see any hang ups. Just because I can't compress a video in 5 seconds and have to wait 8 minutes doesn't kill life for me.
I originally had my MacBook Pro plugged into a 30inch Cinema Display and switched to the 27inch LED Display. So many people bitch about the Cinema display being glossy, but next to the 30 inch it's a sharper brighter picture. Don't put a light or a window behind it and you won't have problems with glare, I never do. And I honestly prefer it over the 30 inch. Anyone with a 30 inch knows how much heat that thing puts out, and the LED display barely gets warm.
I suspect a lot of the bitching about the glossy display comes from people who don't actually own one or for that matter do professionally what they say they want these displays for. I have photography friends whose sole income is from wedding photography who talked me into the 27inch Display.
The only thing that could make this display better is if it was retina.
This new rumor really outta make the rumors of a 15inch MacBook Air even more interesting. I'm very curious to see if the 15inch Pro will turn into a 15 inch Air. Next year looks promising for getting new gear!
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Look, just because something isn't your idea of perfect for HD video editing doesn't make it a 'consumer' oriented device. Professional video editing accounts for a tiny fraction of professional computer use. The MacBook Air sees plenty of professional use. A lot of us would appreciate the energy savings in Ivy Bridge if it gives us better battery life.
I don't doubt that MBA is a good fit for the consumer market, but it just so happens that everybody I know who owns a MBA (myself included), uses it for business (they're all either designers or programmers).
Is anybody claiming Ivy Bridge will revolutionize anything? I haven't seen that claim -- just that it's a nice incremental step with significantly reduced power consumption.
Silly statement to make considering the advances Intel are making over a short time since they've started to take their IGP seriously.
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I think they're starting to understand them pretty well when you look at the recent improvements in Sandy Bridge and further planned advances.
What improvements ? They're the same 1-2 years late in the game they've always been, and "further planned advances" are again, 1-2 years late as they always have been.
The only thing they understand is that a few people will give them the benefit of the doubt even 10 years later and even with so many failed GPUs. Just like you're doing now.
There's nothing serious about Intel's commitment to GPUs and IGP. The fact they had to sue nVidia and pull their license to force their crap down our throats goes to show that. If they could compete on performance, they would have destroyed nVidia in the market without the lawsuit.
In the end, AMD had the right idea : buy some competent GPU people. Intel should follow suit.
Huh? Those of us who actually have Air/TB displays have no idea what you are talking about.
Not to mention these Airs will have the newer GPU.
I'm glad the capability will be there...but boy oh boy, how many folks an on dfiving 3 ACDs from a MBA? Power to em'
Newer GPU, older GPU... really guys, my 1996 bought Matrox Millennium II with 4 MB of WRAM could power a 1600x1200 monitor with ease. Anyone who thinks in 2011 GPUs have problems driving "monitors" doesn't know a thing about GPUs and their evolution.
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It's not 3 ACDs, it's 2 ACDs + the internal monitor.