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After I realized that office is not universal binary and as im only in middle school I cant get it from a college im just doing to buy iwork as I am doing to be flat broke after buying my macbook
 
Does Pages have the footnote function? As a history major, I have to write most of my papers in the Chicago style with footnotes or endnotes.
 
IJ Reilly said:
This is a pretty typical criticism of Pages. "I haven't really used it, but I don't like it anyway."

Templates are actually one of Pages' strengths -- not necessarily the ones Apple provides, which I've only rarely used, but the ones you create yourself. Set up a few custom templates for yourself with placeholder text and images for the kinds of documents you create regularly, and you'll wonder how you ever lived without this facility. The way Pages handles text and paragraph styles is also a breeze -- far superior to Word.

The times when I did try it I just couldn't get into it, so I've stuck with Office. When I'm typing documents, it usually is just a report or letter or something that doesn't need a template, so I never gave Pages a fair shot. I tried to create a school project brochure on it, and had some trouble so I gave up. Office also had a "sample brochure" and wasn't any better so I should've stuck with Pages.
 
buffalo said:
The times when I did try it I just couldn't get into it, so I've stuck with Office. When I'm typing documents, it usually is just a report or letter or something that doesn't need a template, so I never gave Pages a fair shot. I tried to create a school project brochure on it, and had some trouble so I gave up. Office also had a "sample brochure" and wasn't any better so I should've stuck with Pages.

Report, letters -- they're all candidates for templates, assuming you ever plan on writing another one! Templates can include only paragraph and font styles, if that's all you want or need. I really appreciate having these set up before I start writing.
 
Lorelai said:
Does Pages have the footnote function? As a history major, I have to write most of my papers in the Chicago style with footnotes or endnotes.

Yes. Either/Or - Either footnotes OR endnotes, but not both in the same doc.
 
Office is slow if you don't upgrade RAM

Just to confirm, on a stock 512mb of RAM Macbook Microsoft Office runs slower than molasses. In fact its totally pointless. Don't bother with Office unless you are going to uprgrade your RAM, anyone who tells you different is a no good dirty liar. Seriously, I was boggled by the slowness of Office under Rosetta when I switched from an iBook G4. And running other apps like iTunes alongside Office:Rosetta is right out of the question with 512 RAM, so is looking at your non-universal widgets. Also, NeoOffice is crap right now so don't let anyone tell you to use that either. What I've found is that you are basically screwed with a macbook unless you have at least 1gb RAM.:(
 
Badandy said:
Can you stop trying to spread your evangelical "I hate MS" crap? Because unless you want to shed some light on why Office 2004 would not be a good choice for the poster, you saying it isn't adequate just because of your ingrained hate for MS (no, not a dollar sign, it is an S) isn't helping anyone or helping the images of Mac Users as ideological zealots.

As for me, I find Office 2004 better than Office 2003 for Windows, and currently (after trying other solutions) think it is a great piece of software. I highly recommend it not only for its obvious compatibility with the Windows world, but I think it is a well executed piece of software besides for some extremely minor annoyances such as automatic numbering weirdness...

Much of the laity seems to think that MS Word files are a technological lingua-franca, emailing .doc files back and forth when they want to distribute papers, press releases etc. The irony of using software that costs several hundred dollars to freely disseminate information does not seem to have sunk in for many.

The OS X and Windows versions of words are fully compatible, and you can buy very steeply discounted copies of Word through various sources, or use a free alternative capable of reading and creating Word files such as OpenOffice.org, AbiWord, StarOffice, OS X TextEdit, or others. If you are a science person, try a LaTeX typesetting program.

All of the above mentioned software can generate and read basic Word files- however files with elaborate formatting or those using unusual fonts might not translate properly in either direction. (Personally, I have never had issues with opening Word files in OpenOffice, AbiWord, TextEdit, or Pages, though I've heard of others who have. I've had no experience with StarOffice, from which OpenOffice is derived.)

I personally have found Word, with its penchant for getting in the way of spelling, formatting, and writing in general, to be more trouble than it's worth, and have switched to using simpler software (specifically, LaTeX) to write my papers. However, regardless of you buy Word or use alternative software when they need to open Word files sent to them by others, I'd encourage all to use open standards such as rtf, txt, pdf, ps (PostScript), etc. when sending files to others.

Excel is a different story. OpenOffice & company's spreadsheet programs are decent, but I still find Excel's features to be marginally superior. I usually use Matlab, though...so I might not be the best judge of this.

I'd still go with iWork though...if only for keynote. Great piece of software.
 
How compatible is pages with MS office. I have office for mac and and I would rather use pages (because it's apple). I don't feel like ready through all of the posts and searching.....sorry normally I do....I would just like someone to let me know. Thanks for putting up with my temporary bout with laziness ;)
 
macdaddy121 said:
How compatible is pages with MS office. I have office for mac and and I would rather use pages (because it's apple). I don't feel like ready through all of the posts and searching.....sorry normally I do....I would just like someone to let me know. Thanks for putting up with my temporary bout with laziness ;)

The above explanation pretty much says it all. No other word processor is going to perfectly translate the Word format, but many do a pretty good job. Pages does well, as long as the formatting isn't too complicated.
 
IJ Reilly said:
The above explanation pretty much says it all. No other word processor is going to perfectly translate the Word format, but many do a pretty good job. Pages does well, as long as the formatting isn't too complicated.

Thanks but I just realized if I have a copy of MS Office for Mac than it doesn't even matter. HAHAHA......wow....I'm out of it...Thanks though.
 
IJ Reilly said:
No other word processor is going to perfectly translate the Word format, but many do a pretty good job.
You forgot to mention that even the different installations of Word often have trouble with translating the formatting intent from a different install. It gets worse when you're dealing with different versions of Word, but I still see significant formatting changes from one copy of Word XP to another at work.

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yojitani said:
Yes. Either/Or - Either footnotes OR endnotes, but not both in the same doc.
Great... thanks! :) It really seems to depend on the actual professor... some really want a lot of footnotes and some only want endnotes. Anything to make the student's life difficult, I guess! ;)
 
balamw said:
You forgot to mention that even the different installations of Word often have trouble with translating the formatting intent from a different install. It gets worse when you're dealing with different versions of Word, but I still see significant formatting changes from one copy of Word XP to another at work.

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True story, and to make matters even more (un)interesting, unless you're willing to stick to the boring and ugly ubiquitous fonts for all of your documents, then you're going to have a problem there also with sharing. I swear, I wish I didn't have to see a single other document using nothing but Times or Arial -- but that's what you're going to get with a single word processor being declared the "standard."

And to the poster who said that Pages isn't really a word processor, the response is no, this isn't true. You really do have a choice, if you want to exercise it.
 
Aika said:
The current release of NeoOffice is free, multi-lingual and intel native. The upcoming big release will be free come the end of august too: the early access program is to drum up donations really :) I really don't recommend OpenOffice on OS X... it's not a nice experience.

OpenOffice.org is quite fast on my machine. Found that there is a German version (I had to scroll the page :p ) but it's an ok experience. NeoOffice for me was always really slow on my old G4.

I just wished X11 didn't open xterm everytime I clicked on Open Office.

EDIT: Well you can't print from the X11 environment... But Export as PDF works... I'd try NeoOffice when it gets out of Alpha/Beta though.
 
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