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Carmaker Jaguar today announced that a collection of its vehicles will support a new in-car cashless payment app that allows drivers to use Apple Pay to pay for fuel at Shell stations without having to use a traditional card payment at a pump. Drivers of the enhanced Jaguar F-PACE performance SUV, F-TYPE, XF and XE sports saloon model ranges -- and the latest Land Rover models -- will be able to take advantage of the app.


When drivers open the Shell app through Jaguar's InControl infotainment system, it can guide them to the nearest station. Once they get there, they can type in which pump station they're at, select how much fuel they need, and choose between Apple Pay and PayPal to complete the process. Although unconfirmed by Jaguar and Shell, drivers will still have to use a connected iPhone to authorize Apple Pay payments with Touch ID.

An email will automatically be sent so accounting expenses can be tallied up at a later date. Support is currently focused only in the United Kingdom, but the company said that the app will be rolling out globally soon.
"In a world where cash is no longer king, customers are increasingly using electronic payments and contactless cards. Making a payment directly from a car's touchscreen will make refuelling quicker and easier. With this new system you can choose any pump on the forecourt and pay for the fuel even if you've forgotten your wallet or can't find your credit or debit card.

You will save time because there's no more queuing to pay in a shop, and for drivers with children, it won't be necessary to wake them up, or unstrap them from their seats to take them into the shop. Expenses and tax returns will also be made much simpler, with no receipts to lose as these will all be sent electronically," said Peter Virk, director of connected car and future technology
The Shell app is part of a few enhancements that Jaguar announced to its F-PACE, XE, and XF models today, including new gesture technology to make it easier to open the vehicle's trunk, as well as the latest efficient Ingenium petrol and diesel engines. Jaguar's announcement focused on Apple Pay and PayPal, but the company confirmed that it's working on adding Android Pay support for fuel payments "later in 2017."

Article Link: Jaguar and Shell Partnership Lets UK Drivers Use Apple Pay to Pay for Fuel Inside Car
 

Moccasin

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I do this already in my 10+ year old car... with the Shell app

yes the only change here seems to be that the app is integrated in the car's system, although even that's not clear. Given that you can't use Apple Pay without a fingerprint on the Touch ID button, I'm not seeing any benefits of this over having the app on a phone.

So this seems to be a pointless press release!
 
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ArtOfWarfare

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I think I prefer Tesla's system, where they just know your car and bill your account automatically when you use their charging system.

(Of course, nobody has been charged yet... all Teslas ordered before January 15th come with free supercharging for life... so we won't hear how well the billing system actually works for another month or two, since they have a delay of 6-12 weeks between when you order and when the car is delivered...)
 
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macduke

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What's the point of having it inside your car vs. outside your car? You still have to get out and pump, unless you live somewhere weird like New Jersey. I'd be worried that I would forget to pay.

I guess one good point is that you would avoid skimmers.
 
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timber

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What's the point of having it inside your car vs. outside your car? You still have to get out and pump, unless you live somewhere weird like New Jersey. I'd be worried that I would forget to pay.

I guess one good point is that you would avoid skimmers.
That is the reason this isn't really very useful. I have an identifier in my car to pay toll roads and parking automatically (each identifier is associated with a particular debit card). It can also be used to pay gas in a specific gas brand. The reason I never use it is what you say, having to leave the car to fill it the advantage is lost.
 
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tmiw

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What's the point of having it inside your car vs. outside your car? You still have to get out and pump, unless you live somewhere weird like New Jersey. I'd be worried that I would forget to pay.

I guess one good point is that you would avoid skimmers.

I'm guessing it doesn't get cold where you live. This sort of thing reduces the amount of time you're outside, which is a net win IMO.
 
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virginblue4

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I've been using this in my 2002 Renault Clio for the last 6 months! The only difference is that it displays on the screen in the Jaguar, but you still have to use Touch ID on your iPhone anyway?

The way I use it at the moment:

1. Pull up to the pump
2. Open the Shell app and select 'fill up and go'
3. App automatically determines which station I am at and I then type the number of which pump I am at and then authorise Apple Pay with Touch ID.
4. Green circle appears which means I can fill up.
5. I drive off and get a receipt to my email address instantly.

So literally no different?

Edit - I can also select maximum fuelling limits. If I were to select £20, the pump will automatically stop fuelling at this value. It's very handy.
 
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dontwalkhand

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I've been using this in my 2002 Renault Clio for the last 6 months! The only difference is that it displays on the screen in the Jaguar, but you still have to use Touch ID on your iPhone anyway?

The way I use it at the moment:

1. Pull up to the pump
2. Open the Shell app and select 'fill up and go'
3. App automatically determines which station I am at and I then type the number of which pump I am at and then authorise Apple Pay with Touch ID.
4. Green circle appears which means I can fill up.
5. I drive off and get a receipt to my email address instantly.

So literally no different?

Edit - I can also select maximum fuelling limits. If I were to select £20, the pump will automatically stop fuelling at this value. It's very handy.
I have also been doing exactly this with the Mobil Speedpass app here in the US!
 
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macduke

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I'm guessing it doesn't get cold where you live. This sort of thing reduces the amount of time you're outside, which is a net win IMO.
It used to get decently cold where I live, lol. Regularly -10 or -15 several times during the winter. The record is around -25. The forecast for the next week is 60s and 70s and sunny. I've stood out in -30 windchill filling up my car plenty of times in driving snow and even at the onset of a blizzard warning before things got too crazy. Do you get inside your car while it is filling up? You're supposed to be attending your pump at all times. I stand out there and endure it. One time in West Yellowstone, MT I had a pump with a broken shutoff valve and it started spraying gas everywhere. I was quickly able to disengage the pump before things got crazy. That was a pretty cold morning as well.
 
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Steve.P.JobsFan

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But Shell (in the US) is/was apart of the flaming trash can known as MCX and is vehemently opposed to cashless payments (read: Apple Pay/others) at its' US stations...

Maybe this is changing now?
 
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What's the point of having it inside your car vs. outside your car? You still have to get out and pump, unless you live somewhere weird like New Jersey.
What's weird about a gas station having employees pumping fuel?
 
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dontwalkhand

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Is there anyway to get a printed receipt at the pump when paying with Apple Pay with these apps?
Yes. Mobil allows you to choose a printed receipt within the app and the pump will print one out.
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You rarely see it in the UK where this app has just launched, most of our petrol stations have self-service pumps.
Rarely see it in the us too unless it's New Jersey or Oregon.
 
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Relentless Power

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What's weird about a gas station having employees pumping fuel?

There isn't anything "Weird" about it and Macduke never used that word. It's a lost service because of liability and cost related factors, where this service still rarely exists in some areas. Self served fuel stations are more predominant.
 
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cube

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There isn't anything "Weird" about it and Macduke never used that word. It's a lost service because of liability and cost related factors, where this service still rarely exists in some areas. Self served fuel stations are more predominant.
He called the places that have that service weird.

And I question whether self service is predominant when you look at the whole world.
 
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Relentless Power

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He called the places that have that service weird.

And I question whether self service is predominant when you look at the whole world.

Which is why I said "Some Area's." I can't speak for the whole world, neither can you without having numbers indicating that . Self service again....in my area, is predominant. I never commented on any other geographic.
 
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