I didn't say (or think) there was someone opening and updating 'em all, I was just relaying what the "Apple Genius" said. He said new phones shipped out come with the latest FW installed. Since the 3GS sold out in most places Id assume that another batch is coming from Apple, and depending on when that is, they very well could come with 3.0.1 installed. I was just trying to give that guy a heads up. I personally wouldn't trust waiting til September if I wanted a 3GS that I could JB, no matter what anyone says about which software would come loaded on it. With all the talk of 3.0.1 possibly eliminating JBs but always being able to JB if you got your EDIC with 3.0.0, Id feel way more comfortable getting it now. That's just me personally though, he very well could be all set waiting til September. He'll, we don't even know if Apple even "fixed" JBs with 3.0.1, so this whole convo could be moot.