Jailbreaking, Apple stores, and scare tactics

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  1. integ3r macrumors newbie

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    I was at the Cherry Creek Mall Apple Store in Denver, CO and thought I would share some interesting info with all of you.

    First off, here's a picture of three iPads at this particular Apple Store (sitting right next to each other). All three have been jailbroken by someone. Click for full quality.

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    Apparently Apple's stores have wised up to the fact that jailbreakme.com exists and can jailbreak any product running iOS in under a couple minutes.

    Troublemakers beware: when I was at the Apple Store today, I saw a couple employees checking all the iPhones, iPads, and iPod touches and writing down which ones had been jailbroken using a special form. They would come back every few minutes and check all of them again, recording any differences. I was threatened by an Apple Store employee who thought I had jailbroken one of the iPads after I had come back from messing around with some of the iPhones. He told me that he would have to "ask me to leave" if I jailbroke that iPad (which I actually didn't). :confused: Apparently there was someone else in there actually causing the trouble.

    I would estimate that about 90% of all devices running iOS in that store have been jailbroken. This is not a generous estimate at all. Some of the iPhones in that store were so screwed up with random WinterBoard themes and backgrounds that they were barely usable.

    However, these scare tactics aren't Apple's only defense against the rogue jailbreakers. I tried to visit jailbreakme.com on one of the store's Macs. I discovered that it had been blocked... not by Apple's filtering system but by OpenDNS! Apple has used OpenDNS in the past, but apparently this problem was so urgent that Apple resorted to a temporary fix... blocking JailbreakMe with DNS settings. Any person that knows how to get to JailbreakMe can just as likely change the DNS settings on the iPhone.

    In short: Apple is cracking down on people jailbreaking their iPhones in the stores using OpenDNS and scare tactics... but many have been already jailbroken.

    What do you think?
     
  2. R94N macrumors 68020

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    Good for them. It's bad for business. The average people who don't follow all of this stuff will only get frustrated/confused with it. Also pretty annoying as well; it's their stock and people are in a way vandalising them.
     
  3. Sky Blue Guest

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    Keeping their instore demo products useable for potential customers?
     
  4. dukebound85 macrumors P6

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    good for apple

    I'd be pissed too if people were modifying my things without my consent
     
  5. miles01110 macrumors Core

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    Isn't it obvious? They're trying to prevent people from jailbreaking store units.
     
  6. macquariumguy macrumors 6502a

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    They're protecting their property against vandalism. Too bad they couldn't catch and prosecute the criminals who did it.
     
  7. advres Guest

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    Displaying their OS and their product as the customer will get it when they buy it new.
     
  8. integ3r thread starter macrumors newbie

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    I've rephrased the question. Because, yeah, it's kind of obvious what Apple's doing.
     
  9. miles01110 macrumors Core

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    Stopping jailbreaking in the store is great, but releasing a patch would be a much more efficient way to solve the problem. The hole that the website exploits has been known since a week or two after iOS 4 was released.
     
  10. bruinsrme macrumors 601

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    I love jailbreaking on MY phone.
    jailbreaking a stores merchandise is juvenille and I would consider it as vandalism.
     
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  13. bigjnyc macrumors 601

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    I'm all for jailbreaking your own phone which you paid for. But messing with the phones in the store is just plain stupid and immature. Apple is one of the companies that actually has all their products out on display and encourages people to come in and play with them, some people just don't know how to appreciate that.
     
  14. ozzyman500 macrumors 65816

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    Hopefully they don't take away the displays... :mad:
     
  15. kdarling macrumors demi-god

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    +1 At the least, do something for the store units.

    This is a poor showcase of iOS security. Imagine a customer:

    "Say, Apple Genius, how come all these displays are messed up?"

    "Well sir, someone has hacked into them. We can't seem to stop it, since it only takes seconds to do it."

    "No kidding?!"

    "Yes sir. Anyway, wouldn't you like to buy a bunch of iPads and iPhones for your business? They're so much more fun than a Blackberry."
     
  16. miles01110 macrumors Core

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    Excuse me, the correct term is MAGICAL.

    Anyway, yeah. Just one more reason the iP* will never be a suitable enterprise device for any company serious about security.
     
  17. mizzouxc macrumors member

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    I disagree. If you threaten your customer, they won't give you money. If you're going to threaten every person in the store that touches your demo, people aren't going to come to your store and buy your things.
     
  18. mizzouxc macrumors member

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    This reminds me of good old IE 5. Visit a website and your complete device can get taken over. Instead, you just visit a website that gives you a malformed PDF and jailbreaks your device. If it can jailbreak your device, it can do many other *fun things as well.

    *magical
     
  19. *LTD* macrumors G4

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    This.

    Very likely the same dorks coming back each time and messing with Apple's demo models, which are owned by Apple.

    The problem with having jailbroken demo devices in Apple Stores should be obvious. And it has nothing to do with a statement of "freedom" or any other such nonsense.

    Dear jailbrakers: Yes, we know you're very cool and all avant-garde and such, but please stay the f away from devices in Apple Stores, and spend time voiding your own warranties instead.

    Sent from my stock iPhone 4.
     
  20. thejadedmonkey macrumors 604

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    They're open for everyone to use. What's illegal about it?
     
  21. *LTD* macrumors G4

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    Everyone can use them, except when it comes to hacking what's not their own property to begin with. Does this even need to be pointed out to you?? Duh. LOL
     
  22. thejadedmonkey macrumors 604

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    If Apple doesn't want people to do something with them, perhaps they should fix the problem, instead of sitting on the solution, or consider letting people use their devices how they want to.
     
  23. Rodimus Prime macrumors G4

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    Apple should take a page out of MS book on this one. That is a HUGE zero day exploited being used to jail break. A fix that should of had a fix out ASAP. That means as soon as it is done it should of been pushed out. They should not be sitting on it and waiting for everything else.

    This is a prime example of why is rated pretty low on security. They do not do the fixes very fast and will sit on some rather huge published ones.
     
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    Apple has an appalling track record addressing security issues. All I can say is I praise the lord every day Mac market share remains in single digits.
     
  25. macquariumguy macrumors 6502a

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    Simple. Intentionally damaging property is vandalism.
     

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