Jailbreaking Decision!!!! Please Help!! I Am Desperate!!!! Please!!!

Discussion in 'Jailbreaks and iOS Hacks' started by pcs are junk, Dec 19, 2009.

  1. pcs are junk macrumors 65816

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    Hi, guys, i am very convinced that i should jailbreak my iphone, ive done it to my ipod touch, but i am not to sure if i want to void the warranty, i mean, i have a 2 yr warranty that i tried to switch over but apple wrote down the wrong email address. i am very cautious of what happens to my phone, but i need some help badly. ive heard that cydia stays in your root folder after you restore, but i have this application i bought for 20 bucks called phone view. it allows me to access any information on my phone, text messages, phone calls, pictures, music, whatever. but you can copy files from ur iphone to ur computer, but if i jailbreak it and want to restore, if i delete those files off my iphone, and then put back the old ones, will my iphone not work, i mean there has to be something that allows it to be recognized, but if i delete that, then that could be bad? can somebody please help. sorry for the run-ons im only 14, but thanks in advance!
     
  2. sjinsjca macrumors 68000

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    Your post has me very confused. You have a two-year warranty but don't? You paid for an app that requires jailbreaking and are "convinced" you should jailbreak but aren't sure?

    Jailbreaking is fun and allows you to access apps that you can't get via official routes, but as you note there are some drawbacks. Some of those apps were rejected by Apple for a reason. Some can cause stability issues. Others might present security issues, such as the widely-known default ssh password that potentially opens your phone to others unless you're smart enough to change your ssh password. And so on. And, there's the warranty issue.

    Bottom line: if you know what you're doing, jailbreaking is worthwhile; if you don't, you might regret it. Your post is so jumbled that I'd suggest you hold off and sort out the issues in your mind for a while. Why the rush? Why "desperate"? Just chill and think about it for a while. (Why do you need that $20 app anyway? What is its allure?)

    My personal experience: 1st time I jailbroke, I restored within a few days (with no apparent lingering consequences) due to issues with WiFi and stability. I tried again a few months later and have been pleased. But then again, my phone is out of warranty so I had little to risk.
     
  3. pcs are junk thread starter macrumors 65816

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    no the app doesnt require it to be jailbroken, but it allows me to access all the files. so i copied all of them onto my desktop, i have many experiences with jailbreaking, but thats for the ipod touch, im not so sure about the iphone if it will mess up anything. but see the thing im trying to get the answer to mainly is does cydia store itself in the root folder of your iphone, even after you restore? i have heard about this, and apple mite search my phone's root folder, and then say that they cant fix it cuz it was jailbroken. i hope i made this clearer
     
  4. thelatinist macrumors 603

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    Start by reading the Pwnage Guide at the top of this forum. Then if you have specific questions you can ask them here.

    And to answer your most recent question: restoring your iPhone and setting up as a new phone will erase all traces of a previous jailbreak.
     
  5. dhlizard macrumors G4

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    As stated, if you need warranty coverage/repair/replacement you just restore to official Apple firmware, choose set up as new and all traces of JB will be gone.

    It's a no risk.

    You are making this much more complicated than it is. :rolleyes:
     
  6. The General macrumors 601

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    1. That program will not let you access your root filesystem unless jailbroken.
    2. Cydia does not stay in the root directory and is actually never in the root directory even when jailbroken.
    3. If you're worried about your warranty, stop, because you can just restore and Apple will never know.
    4. Read this from top to bottom and apply what you learn to your future posts. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sentence_(linguistics)
    5. Thread titles really don't need 13 exclamation marks.
     
  7. sjinsjca macrumors 68000

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    Okay, that's a clarification. But why would you want to do this? Jailbreaking and ssh, or just the terminal on a jailbroken iPhone, let you explore your file system. It's just a standard Unix file system with the usual complement of Unix gizmos and gewgaws.

    IMHO you need a good reason to jailbreak to make it worth the hassle. Either there's some app that you need and can't have through official channels, or you live in the U.S. and need tethering that AT&T won't let you do, or something. Just wanting to explore the iPhone's file system and copying it to your (presumably Mac) desktop seems like ...well, educational, maybe, at best. But worth $20, potential warranty issues, and hassles?

    And yes, potential warranty issues, even though you can usually restore-as-new, as others have noted here. If, for example, your iPhone develops problems that prevent it from being sync'd, you might not be able to restore-as-new, and Apple will (supposedly) reject your warranty claim if they find you've jailbroken.

    So again: figure out your reasons for wanting to jailbreak. So far I haven't seen anything from you that warrants the "desperate" phrasing in your original post, the many exclamation points, etc. Think about it soberly and tell us why jailbreaking is worth your time.
     
  8. Night Spring macrumors G5

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    If a jailbroken phone develops problems so that it wouldn't sync, can't you just put it into DFU mode before taking it into Apple?
     
  9. sjinsjca macrumors 68000

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    Depends on what gets borked. It's all a pretty far-fetched what-if, I admit. The risks to jailbreaking are pretty low since you can almost always sync and restore-as-new.

    My main point is that, IMHO, the OP would benefit to proceed in a linear fashion towards a rational decision on this matter. His opening post was all over the map and it's not clear what he wants to accomplish. Having said that, it's perfectly fine to jailbreak just for grins 'n' chuckles, plenty of us have done it out of curiosity. But since OP is torn over the issue and is all of 14 years old, let's encourage an analytic approach, a bit of sobriety. It's a life lesson.

    So hear the old man, OP: Harness that intelligence and vector your thrust! "The center of mass of an explosion remains stationary." Aim, then fire. ...An' all that rot, while still retaining that youthful inquisitiveness that gets beaten out of too many of us.

    And I'd still like to know what's worthwhile about copying the entire iPhone file system to one's desktop... ;)
     
  10. thelatinist macrumors 603

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    What risks? If the phone can be booted such that Apple can tell it was jailbroken, then it can be restored. If it won't boot, it can be put in DFU mode and restored. If it won't boot and a hardware problem prevents you from putting it in DFU mode, then it's a warranty issue and Apple will replace it. Explain to me how your phone can both be unable to be restored and identifiable as jailbroken, please.
     
  11. Night Spring macrumors G5

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    IMO, if you haven't mastered at least a basic respect for rational thinking by the age of 14, you are pretty much a lost cause. ;)
     
  12. sjinsjca macrumors 68000

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    Haven't met too many 14-year-olds, have you? ;)
     
  13. Night Spring macrumors G5

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    Well... let's just say I know a lot of not very rationally-thinking adults who haven't improved much since they were 14.
     

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