It would be nice to see how they do 512 MB ram for the GPU. It seems like soldering the memory on the mobo makes doing doublesided RAM wafers a little bit hard (cooling wise). As it is now I would imagine all the GPU RAM is on one side. I think there should be 4 chips for RAM (each one being 64-bit accessed in pairs to come up with the 128bit bus). I guess 8 chips is easily doable on one side, but I am curious as to how much space the current GPU takes up on the mobo. Does anyone have shots of the mobo Apple uses for the MBP?
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January 2008 MacBook Pros with Penryn Processors?
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Not all enough have the money for a MacPro, and some just need the portability.
The MacBook Pro deserves the update just as much; Apple has spent pretty much all of 2007 on its Mickey-Mouse consumer products.
The MacBook Pro deserves the update just as much; Apple has spent pretty much all of 2007 on its Mickey-Mouse consumer products.
While its true that Apple have spent an enormous amount of time on their mickey mouse consumer gadgetry, the Macbook Pro had the luxury of being updated in 2007. The Mac Pro has yet to be updated...
Intel is delaying three Penryn Yorkfields - the Core 2 Quad Q9300, Q9450 and Q9550 - until closer to Q2 2008, so if Apple was planning to use those in Mac Pros, those machines will likely be delayed until next month or March.
So Apple might not be affected if they are using six-layer MBs and could still launch shipping product at MacWorld...
Nope, but everyone is trying to cut costs. I've been having some grief with the systemboards on our hp xw6400 workstations as of late, so I wonder if they have moved to a four-layer PCB to cut costs.
What price range you think these new mac book pro's will be? I am going to get rid of my two year old imac and might just get a macbook pro to compliment my macbook.
I'm going to guess at similar to identical price points of the current line, just with more speed, memory, HDD capacity, and graphics power.
I'd probably commit murder and then buy a powerbook for a while I guess..
But that doesn't matter because there WILL be a new MBP available within 2 weeks!
!MacBook Pros will be updated.. June release is too far dude. And the prices will be identical because you never see them jack up the price for any of their MacBook Pros they release. Seriously, its expensive enough as it is... $2100CAD, about $2500-$2600 with tax.. that is crazy.
If updated, the new low-end model will be the same price as the current low-end model.
Actually, if you have a MBP LED, any of those are fine, fine, fine for the next few years. The biggest update will be in a year plus...as in theory, Intel is so successful with their .45, that it is said, in theory, they could place 4 to 8 cores on one die. This will be the plus.
Also expect the new MBP to offer 20% increase (FPU/CPU) while giving as much as 2-3 extra hours of life. Also, when the flash drives become larger, we will see mere seconds to boot, and excellent for AUDIO SAMPLE work.
I just hope they keep the form factor the same so existing macbook users can upgrade.
Still, its quite upsetting that Apple (at least according to the new Macworld Rumors), there is STILL NO SUB $1000 machine with GOOD graphics, enough of this intel crap. Apple even crippled the latest macbook X300.
After Leopard, the macbooks rendered OpenGL from 150 (Xbench) to 170, then, after X300, it dropped to 85%, how pathetic. What are they afraid of? That the PROS will buy cheap machines for AUDIO/VIDEO? SPARE ME, the PRO user now makes up very little of Apples marketshare. Its all moms, strollers, crying kids and puppies in the stores. Have you seen it? Geesh, hardly anyone knows the Pro apps. Hope they get back to the core base someday.
Am happy that the 30" rip off is being replace by a $1200 30". Its about time.
Unfortunately, it's the moms, cheap kids and gadget users who are price sensitive apple is targeting these days. What has apple done computer wise really in the past year? Incremental upgrades, same chassis, blah, blah, blah.... Hopefully MW'08 will be better. This seems to be why they changed their name from apple COMPUTER to apple INC. Computers are now a sideline.
Apple has always had much longer product life-cycles then the Windows PC companies. Since they do not use off-the-shelf enclosures for their products and they don't push raw volume, they must need a longer period of time to both recover their initial investment and make a nice return on top of it.
It was even worse before they moved to Intel, since they also had to (re)cover the cost of the PowerPC CPUs and their custom motherboards. At least with Intel, they can leverage the raw volume of CPUs and motherboards used in all the Windows PCs so that cost is recovered much, much quicker.
Apple could certainly push volume at the expense of style. But then we'd get things like Dell's XPS One instead of the Al iMac.
It was even worse before they moved to Intel, since they also had to (re)cover the cost of the PowerPC CPUs and their custom motherboards. At least with Intel, they can leverage the raw volume of CPUs and motherboards used in all the Windows PCs so that cost is recovered much, much quicker.
Apple could certainly push volume at the expense of style. But then we'd get things like Dell's XPS One instead of the Al iMac.
The Mac Pro with its 4 processors deserves nothing, the MacBook Pro in the fastest growing segment of the computer market deserves everything!
If any of what you said is true... about how they are crippling the GPU to make pro machines more attractive, then it is truly a sad thing to be a sucker for Apple don't you think?