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From your comments, I really don't know if you could find something good in an Apple Store........

I normally don't. Only thing I ever buy from Apple store itself is computer. Anything else I can find it elsewhere or other brands.

I mean, backpack valued at 200+ because it's "collectible"? GOsh, I'm surprised people fall for this crap.

Let's be honest. Other than maybe the Macbook Air, Apple will turn a profit on every single one of those bags. The issue being people "think" they are getting a deal because the MRSP is just so overpriced.
 
To many Lawsuits, You can blame the capitalistic mindset in the USA.

People will sue if they feel they did win what they think they deserve. Also you will have people that will just buy tons of those Lucky Bags just to turn a quick profit on Ebay.
That is not capitalism. Capitalism is inherently risky with no guarantee of a profit. Rather, it is a mindset of entitlement in the US where everyone believes they are entitled to what other people have. I would argue that it is constructed by a twisted melding of greedy and jealousy and socialism.
 
Because Americans would sue Apple when they find out the guy behind them at the register got a Mac Book Air and they didn't. Simple.

they wouldn't. just like nobody sued convenience store when someone else won the lottery.

the more likely reason is that Americans aren't as fanatic about those kind of deals as say... Japanese. Look at video game computer such as Gree, profited HUGELY with those kind of scam (Yes, I call them scam) in their video games, but fail hard when trying to translate that into western games.

Also, Apple probably doesn't want to apply for a lottery license in the west just for a single day event.
 
So I guess baseball cards are illegal then.

No they are not since the individuals trading cards have no unique value upon printing the lot. Also since baseball cards are printed material, First Amendement issues come in. The WotC attorneys were all over this when Magic The Gathering cards started up a decade ago.
 
you can always count on the self-centered-trying-to-make-a-buck-out-of-everything-douchebag to show up eventually

There's a market for it. If Apple won't make money off of these lucky bags in other countries then someone will.
 
Anyone with their own "ueito" in Japan for this?

Alright I'll bite. What does this mean? 'ueito' is 'wait'?

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it is a mindset of entitlement in the Canada where everyone believes they are entitled to what other people have.

I fixed it for you.

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Key concept: Not every bag is loaded with contents with values > $300.

This is wrong. The bags to have a value of more than 36,000 yen. The lucky part is did you get more than 36,000 yen worth of stuff that you value.

Giving products that didn't total 36,000 would be cruel. Especially on a holiday.
 
Alright I'll bite. What does this mean? 'ueito' is 'wait'?


Literally yes. A "ueito" is one who waits in line for another. There are people, specifically Akihabara, who get paid to wait in line for the latest items and show for another.
 
Why can't we have this in the U.S.?

People have short memories. Apple often sold lucky bags, both in the US and abroad whenever it opened up a new Apple Store. The practice died out a while back. I queued up for one when the Regent St store opened. Couldn't have cared less about the store opening itself.

The problem was there was a lot of queue jumping and crowd control became an issue. I ended up getting jostled just before opening and just lost out by one when it came to the 250 or so bags being sold despite being comfortably up the front of the queue.

I didn't mind so much when I saw what people were getting for their £250. Hardly anyone got an iBook or an iPod - maybe one or two. The rest just got JBL On Stage iPod speakers and some rubbish travelogue DVDs. Nowhere near £250 worth once you got past the cruft.

To many Lawsuits, You can blame the capitalistic mindset in the USA.

People will sue if they feel they did win what they think they deserve. Also you will have people that will just buy tons of those Lucky Bags just to turn a quick profit on Ebay.

Nobody sued and most contents did end up on eBay along with the free T-shirts that got doled out. The T-shirts were Jony Ive/tent-sized so useless for most. Mine are still unopened and gathering dust in their boxes.
 

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Call it gambling or not, this type of practice of packaging up items of various values and selling each package in a lot at the same price is against many US Federal Trade Laws.

Many american companies offer up these kinds of deals. Do you have anything to back that up?

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let's understand this better.

I assume MOST people will be getting the standard basic feature. For someone who is buying it for its VALUE, there isn't much to be had

* Apple TV,
($ 99 dollars retail, but considering it's so out-of-date compare to other offering, I am not surprised Apple is "giving" them away)

*4000 mAh Mophie Powerstation external battery pack,
(completely useless unless you want one originally, picked up a much smaller one at Bestbuy for 10 dollars during boxing week)

*an Incase Icon backpack,
(Apple value it at 150, I found it ugly)

* an iTunes gift card,
(for most people who don't use iTune gift card, I guess you can sell it for 70-80% of its value)

*and Beats by Dre Powerbeats2 wireless earbuds
: only remotely value item here, obscenely overpriced at the MSRP front



So.. does it worth HOURS of waiting and 300 dollars?? Well, it depends on how big of an Apple Fanboy/gamble addict you are.

It's pretty stupid to buy an Apple grab bag if you don't like Apple products. That should be obvious.
 
To each their own, but I do fine on a 16 GB device. Then again, I don't store music or much video on the phone long term. I use Beats, Pandora, or iTunes radio for music.

I actually have less than 300MB of music on my 16GB iPhone. But the apps have gotten bigger! I loaded two racing games.. boom. No more room. After all the other smaller apps I have on there, of course.
 
Let's be honest. Other than maybe the Macbook Air, Apple will turn a profit on every single one of those bags.

And this is somehow a problem? Apple is a business, you know. They generally try to sell products at a profit. Or do you think Apple should just be giving things away? Yes, a few bags will be valued at well over $300. But the bottom line is that Apple, after all the bags are sold, will have a net profit.

Apple is not a charity.
 
Why can't we have this in the U.S.?

Because Americans are so spoiled and entitled that they would NEVER accept the "no returns" policy on this item. I can picture the irate American customers threatening to sue because their bag wasn't as valuable as they had hoped.

The Japanese culture accepts and embraces this tradition - Americans never would.
 
Well, Thanksgiving IS catching on in the UK

No it's not. Thanksgiving means f-all to us.

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Why can't we have this in the U.S.?

American consumers are generally whiny big babies. If they see someone else got a MacBook Air and all they got was some headphones and an iPad case they would cause hell trying to exchange or get a refund.
 
Many american companies offer up these kinds of deals. Do you have anything to back that up?

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It's pretty stupid to buy an Apple grab bag if you don't like Apple products. That should be obvious.

when did Incase bag that is supposedly worth 150 dollars or Morphie battery considered "Apple Products"?

I hope even the most fanatic of Apple fans realize that not everyone will love EVERY single product a company makes
 
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No it's not. Thanksgiving means f-all to us.

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American consumers are generally whiny big babies. If they see someone else got a MacBook Air and all they got was some headphones and an iPad case they would cause hell trying to exchange or get a refund.

We would know what we are getting in to. There is a CHANCE for something worth more. Yeah, people would still whine about it.
 
That is not capitalism. Capitalism is inherently risky with no guarantee of a profit. Rather, it is a mindset of entitlement in the US where everyone believes they are entitled to what other people have. I would argue that it is constructed by a twisted melding of greedy and jealousy and socialism.

Yeah, but if you are a bank or Wall street goon, your lack of profits are picked up by the taxpayers. THATS socialism. Just saying. ;)
 
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