Haha, sorry for the all caps title, but I do not lie. People in Japan upgrade often for the newest lenses, and take impeccable care of their old ones. They often sell them back to camera stores when they upgrade, and the camera stores also take very good care of the lenses. But people don't really like to buy used lenses (because they carry over a bit of their last owner or something...) So usually stores have a surplus of good used lenses. This means that when a lens comes along that works fine optically, but has dings or scratches on the outside it's all but worthless to the store because they have so many perfect ones already that people don't really want. ANYWAYS I've been buying up a storm, and I need to share it with someone. So far I have purchased (all used, changed to equivalent dollar amount)... canon 60mm f/2.8 macro (perfect condition) 300 dollars. canon 35-70mm f/3.5-4.5 ("junk section", has fungus lines inside, can't see in pictures) 30 dollars. canon 70-210 f/4 ("junk section", had fungus on the front element, opened and cleaned) 10 dollars canon 18-55 f/3.5-5.6 USM ("junk section", can't manual focus when in Auto focus?) 30 dollars canon 80-200mm f/2.8 L ("junk section", dings on the outside, but seems perfect internally) 150 dollars. The only lens I owned before this was a previously used 28-105mm 3.5-4.5... ha... SO~! IF you go to japan, visit these stores. MAP camera - Shinjuku. Fujiya camera - Nakano Lemon Sha - Ginza All of these stores sell used lenses and cameras at great prices, but map and fujiya have "junk" sections where you can find AMAZING deals. So far it seems like MAP camera refreshes randomly, and Fujiya seems to refresh on mondays. ("junk" in japan ranges from small scratches to being completely broken. Bought the 80-200mm L lens in the Fujiya junk section...) Hope this helps someone... I'm completely addicted!