Very little would surprise me at this point. I wouldn't be amazed if e.g. "sustainable" Tim is also caught exporting Infinite Loop's garbage to Cambodia, he'd still peddle the same glib calendar quotes and holiday wishing on Twitter.
Apple accused Qualcomm of monopolistic practices. I guess what's good for the goose is not good for the gander.
Apple engaging in shady business practices as usual.
Who among us is shocked by this?![]()
I watched a news program a few years back that followed a very small manufacturing factory here in Japan. As has often been the case in Japan, manufacturing craftsmanship is some of the best in the world, and they won business with Apple by creating a small metal part in an iPhone that no other manufacturer in the world could (think it was the iPhone 4 days maybe).
They continued manufacturing for a coupe of more models, but during this period was asked by Apple for details on its manufacturing process. They trusted Apple (silly maybe, but this place is run by a guy in his 60’s, being a craftsman all his life. Not a businessman), but turns out by the following year a large Chinese manufacturer had somehow figured out how to make the part that had been impossible for them, Apple quickly cut ties with the Japanese manufacturer and went with what was now a cheaper part made in China. I was disgusted at the time.
The Macrumors article might be talking about this particular case.
"When one of the companies called Apple's contract an infringement of intellectual property rights and demanded a revision, Apple allegedly threatened to end the business relationship"
Not making excuses for Apple nor saying their approach is morally on up & up;
But if a company wants something & I don't want to fulfill all details of the deal - either compromise your morals or decline.
All the boohoo about China so called "stealing" our tech is bs
The companies wanted to do business in China so bad (pure greed) they caved and gave China what China wanted.
Google to their credit stood on their morals they bailed on China
Apple dropped the case because Intel kept slipping dates and was unable to provide a alternative to Qualcomm components and Apple was not far enough along with a home grown alternative. If Apple had not struck a deal, future new product releases would have been delayed. Now that Apple has purchased Intel’s modem operations, you can bet Apple is working all out to develop a component to reduce dependence on Qualcomm.Nope not one bit.. as the report says their are now multiple government investigations around the globe being performed on Apples practices.. where’s there’s smoke...
If they come to the conclusions Apples guilty then you might know why all these people including Ive left the company.
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Yes, let’s remember there’s exactly what Qualcomm accused them off... and then all of a sudden Apple dropped its court case against them when Qualcomm stared they had proof Apple gave its tech and designs to Intel...
Seems it’s Apples MO, as Hobs said ‘great artists steal’.
Apple is once again taking advantage of their brand to bully smaller companies. I appreciate their attitude towards protecting consumer privacy and such, but I don’t remember the last time they talked about their business ethics, aside from their environmental friendly practices (which is shadowed by suspected planned obsolescence).
Don’t you think the planned obsolescence trope should be retired?
There are 10 year old macs still getting macOS updates.
The iPhone 5S (6y old model, last sold 3.5 years ago) is supported with current iOS updates.
The Airport Routers all the way back to 2007 got updates a month ago.
The iPhone 4S (8y old design, last sold 6y ago) and iPad 3 got ios updates a couple weeks ago to prevent a future gps issue.
People on android often can’t even get updates when the devices are new.
Blackberry and MS/Nokia phones from 2011 aren’t even supported as far as I know.
You might want to rethink your prejudices they don’t stand up in the face of fact.
Apple accused Qualcomm of monopolistic practices. I guess what's good for the goose is not good for the gander.
Surprise surprise
Apple engaging in shady business practices as usual.
Now you can blame Tim.
Not surprised at all. Apple is a company capable of doing this and much more. They are very courageous after all...
it doesn't take an investigation to know if that took place. It's widely known that's how carries out business
If you ever wonder how Apple (et al.) got so obscenely wealthy, here’s one answer. By being a bully essentially.
Corporations don't care about doing good. They only care about how their sheep perceive them and how much they can milk them for. Apple is no different.
The unfortunate thing about capitalism is that profit takes priority, resulting in very distasteful decisions.
Apple needs to be stopped.
The powerful taking advantage over the less powerful.
I think these are very solid arguments. They have done a very good job in terms of OS backward compatibility that most android users can only dream of (although there are custom ROMs). But for many, they upgrade their devices because of broken hardware, not outdated but still usable software. Apple earn most money when people buy new devices from them.
The trend is that they are making their devices more and more difficult to repair, at least for "unauthorized repair centers". There is the T2 ship in MacBooks, then there is the Secure Enclave. That can be a loss for consumers once Apple Care expires: either expensive official out-of-warranty repair, or buy a new device (since none other can replace the parts), and Apple Geniuses often recommend the later.
In Apple's defense, those chips do provide unique features, such as memory encryption and power saving. I think Apple do not necessarily have planned obsolescence in mind, but more devices will be disposed due to their hardware and software design choices.
it doesn't take an investigation to know if that took place. It's widely known that's how carries out business
Very little would surprise me at this point. I wouldn't be amazed if e.g. "sustainable" Tim is also caught exporting Infinite Loop's garbage to Cambodia, he'd still peddle the same glib calendar quotes and holiday wishing on Twitter.
Apple dropped the case because Intel kept slipping dates and was unable to provide a alternative to Qualcomm components and Apple was not far enough along with a home grown alternative. If Apple had not struck a deal, future new product releases would have been delayed. Now that Apple has purchased Intel’s modem operations, you can bet Apple is working all out to develop a component to reduce dependence on Qualcomm.
Because Steve Jobs was so well known for his kind and flexible negotiating style?
So Apple is paying its partners ($$$) and they want what they want for their $$$. Am I missing something?There is nothing unethical proven by this report.
Business isn’t enough or always fair. It’s business. You use advantages.
Disney does it in the way they treat theaters. It ain’t easy.
Exactly. Tim Apple, who just announced he’s moving work from Texas to China, won’t be getting any help from President Trump.Why would you think this has anything to do with a trade war? It has nothing to do with a trade war.
Funny, most of the industry supported Apple’s position in court.
Yes, thanks, I think that might have been the one I was thinking of.Documentary mentioned above is probably about Apple stealing the skill of polishing the back of iPod case back in the days under Steve Jobs.
Apple had someone video factory workers for several days in great depths and ditched the factory once they were able to copy the process (close enough) in China.
Apple didn’t ask for permission or anything. Factory owner Mr.Kobayashi who was 65 at the time knew what was up, but he couldn’t put up resistance under pressure by a multi-national giant.
Found a random clip on the dude & the work he was so proud to share with Apple:
Seems there might be a good reason for Tim Cook to move to China, like to get the product made. Tim "Apple"Exactly. Tim Apple, who just announced he’s moving work from Texas to China, won’t be getting any help from President Trump.
Greed on both sides: Apple obviously using its size to push around smaller companies; but true also of the executives at that (and other) firms.
Apple "struggled to find enough screws" when it began making the 2013 Mac Pro, a New York Times article explained. "Tests of new versions of the computer were hamstrung because a 20-employee machine shop that Apple's manufacturing contractor was relying on could produce at most 1,000 screws a day." The screw shortage and other problems caused a months-long delay in Mac Pro sales.
As an Apple fanboy (I usually don’t realize it until I objectively see all the apple/beats/etc gadgets I own and have owned during the years)... this is really upsetting if any of these is remotely true...
Yes. Just like Trump pretends US automakers are still relevant. Other than Tesla obviously.Just Japan trying to pretend that they're actually relevant.
Except Apple transparently documents these initiatives in annual public reports.
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You sound extremely intelligent. Well done you.Just Japan trying to pretend that they're actually relevant.
One day I'll sound as intelligent as you. Well done!You sound extremely intelligent. Well done you.
How are Ford, Chrysler, GM, and so on not relevant? They sell more than Telsa. Educate yourself.Yes. Just like Trump pretends US automakers are still relevant. Other than Tesla obviously.