Java 1.4.1 Update for Mac OS X

[Catfish_Man]

Re: Re: Re: I hope borland ships their Jbuilder soon

Originally posted by eric_n_dfw
I'll 2nd that! Eclipse is awesome!

Bah. I like a few parts of it (the syntax checker, autocomplete, a few other things), but it just seems so clunky on the machine I use it on at school. I'm sure there are some higher end features I'm missing out on, but I really don't like it that much.

 

[khollister]

Oops - I just saw the OS X version of Eclipse in the Current Stable Builds. I was looking for a released version.

I'll have to give it a go

 

[reiggin]

Originally posted by ernstp
Sorry to kill your illusions, but LimeWire doesn't work at all with java 1.4.1.
But 1.3.1 is still installed (look in /System/Library/Frameworks/JavaVM.framework/Versions/) and programs can choose which version they want to use.

They will probably update LimeWire soon, but right now LimeWire depends on lots of the old carbon-apple specials in 1.3.1.

How do you uninstall 1.4.1? Or make an app use 1.3.1? Yahoo! Games doesn't like 1.4.1.

 

[khollister]

Aside from the fact that Eclipse runs a hell of a lot faster than any version of JBuilder I tried, the CVS integration (it's merge capability is awesome) and the refactor capability is really nice in a real project environment, i.e. a team working from a CVD repository rather than individual efforts.

 

[Nipsy]

Now I'm just waiting for my apps to get updated with scrollwheel support...

 

[jaykk]

Thanks

this may help you...


http://developer.apple.com/techpubs..._section_5.html



now help me with with netbeans!

Thank you so much, ur the man, glad to see a lot of Java Gurus in the forum. I searched for this info to run Jbuilder for sometime, then gave up.

And I never used NetBeans on OS X, so i downloaded new version, followed the instructions here..but i found out that u have to modify the command like this in the following document. It works for me, let me know if you need any further help.


./runide.sh -jdkhome /Library/Java/Home -ui apple.laf.AquaLookAndFeel -fontsize 11

http://www.netbeans.org/ide/support/mac.html,


Yes, eclipse is a neat IDE, i used it a lot, i actually worked on IBM's Webpshere Application Developer which is based on eclipse.

 

[Foxer]

Originally posted by ChoMomma
Hmm I sell on ebay and use Safari, what problems are you seeing?

I had ebay problems, too. I was never able to upload a picture of my item. Always had to use IE. With luck, those days are over.

 

[Mudbug]

Couple questions...

1st - I've installed 1.4.1 on two machines now, but I don't really have any measure of it working/improving life for me or my machines. Can you point me to some "benchmark" or something like that which can show me or tell me what this is really doing for me?

2nd - I'm pretty savvy with most things mac, but haven't really gotten into coding/writing programs/developer stuff, other than just screwing around. I want to build things like konfabulator widgets, but don't have the first idea where to start. What can I get my hands on to learn?

Sorry about the length, but I thought I might not be the only one reading this forum and wondering the same thing.

 

[jaykk]

netbeans

Also, if you are using Netbeans Launcher, just add -ui apple.laf.AquaLookAndFeel in ${IDE_HOME}/bin/ide.cfg file.

Here is a must-read article -> Bringing your application to Mac OS X

 

[lmalave]

Can't download update

WTF?

Software update won't start the download. Anyone else having trouble connecting?

 

[Mirus]

Java 1.4

I've been using 1.4 since beta 4 or 5. Been a long time coming. I'm a Java programmer and the rest of the development team uses Windows w/1.4 so I needed to get 1.4 running on my Mac. Glad it's finally officially released.

Most, if not all, current Java apps are set to run with JVM 1.3 and you need to explicitly set to to run in 1.4. For those running/trying Eclipse this is especially true if you want to take advantage of the 1.4 capabilities like "assert".

Control-click on the app and select "Show Package Contents". Select info.plist (if you have the developer tools installed you can use Property List Editor, or textedit). If the app was built recently it'll have a JVMVersion tag under Java. If not you'll have to create it. This is probably set to 1.3* or 1.3, you'll want to change it to 1.4+ and try running the app. If the app crashes (i.e. Limewire) change it back and wait for an app update...

Here's an example key tag:

<key>JVMVersion</key>
<string>1.3*</string>

Change it to:

<key>JVMVersion</key>
<string>1.4+</string>

I'm currently running Eclipse M5 on my laptop and it runs fine with JDK1.4 release. So, if you want a big app to play with under 1.4 go grab it at www.eclipse.org...RC2 was just released, need...to...update...my...laptop...

 

[edesignuk]

Originally posted by AppleDave
Although this is the most appropriate forum for this thread. To quote arn's rules for this forum:



If you look at the kind of threads in this forum and the kinds posted in the "software discussion" forum this thread should be here.

edit: arn has closed the other thread.

Yes, thank you for that newbie, I do realise. However the other thread was started about 30mins before this one

 

[skymaXimus]

WTF?

Software update won't start the download. Anyone else having trouble connecting?

Yah, i'm having problems w/ softare update as well. I'm going to look for the link on Apple's web site.

 

[tduality]

Re: Java 1.4

I'm currently running Eclipse M5 on my laptop and it runs fine with JDK1.4 release. So, if you want a big app to play with under 1.4 go grab it at www.eclipse.org...RC2 was just released, need...to...update...my...laptop...

My company abandoned IBM Visual Age for Java in favor of Eclipse soon after the first pre-releases. And since there's OS X I got interested in the Mac and thinking about introducing it as an alternative development platform in our shop.

Now on my G4 400, 1.2GB, no QE at home the Eclipse UI is still too slow to be competitive with our PCs in the office (on Java 1.3.*, I'll give 1.4.1 a try tonight.)

Sure, the widget set of Eclipse (SWT) is not completely native in Carbon yet, but
I just wonder whether a 1 GHZ, QE, 15'' Powerbook would already do the trick to impress my collleagues.

Any experiences on faster machines than mine, anyone?


Martin

 

[rsnyder@psu.edu]

New Java 1.41 Developer Tools

There is rather big revision of the Java Developer Tools on ADC. However, you need to path to downloads/java. This March 10, 2003 update is 48.6 MB. The discription is:

Java 1.4.1 Developer Tools Update
Java 1.4.1 updates for the December 2002 Mac OS X Developer Tools. This update contains a new application packaging tool Jar Bundler, 1.4.1 Java docs, examples, and source code.

 

[Goekeli]

Camino is crashing every 5 minutes or so!

 

[X-Baz]

Re: netbeans

Originally posted by jaykk
Also, if you are using Netbeans Launcher, just add -ui apple.laf.AquaLookAndFeel in ${IDE_HOME}/bin/ide.cfg file.

after five minutes of playing with netbeans, i can say that startup is significantly slower, but during use it is faster (i don't have quartz extreme). the aqua look is significantly different ... and lastly, you still get a class-cast exception when trying to set the menu bar into its proper place (boo).

 

[addertheblack]

1.4.1 is not active with app bundles

Originally posted by BubbaTAC
Does anyone know how this will affect LimeWire and other Java apps? using quartz extreme and aqua more should make it a little bit less of a resource hog...I hope

well, I am the lead developer for Myster which is a java based p2p app. Right now java 1.4.1 will not activate for programs like limewire or Myster because MacOS X will continue to use java 1.3.1 for java applications that are bundled as .app application bundles.

This is a very good thing from my perspective as java 1.4.1 still has too many bugs to run Myster properly. I don't know if the same goes from limewire.

 

[bigjohn]

yahoo fantasy baseball draft link - works now

The Yahoo! Fantasy Baseball live draft test link didn't work with Camino 0.7 before the Java update - now it does in fact work. Yay for me since I like Camino so much (and now, please add separators to Camino bookmarks!).

 

[jasonM]

Re: 1.4.1 is not active with app bundles

Originally posted by addertheblack
well, I am the lead developer for Myster which is a java based p2p app. Right now java 1.4.1 will not activate for programs like limewire or Myster because MacOS X will continue to use java 1.3.1 for java applications that are bundled as .app application bundles.

This is a very good thing from my perspective as java 1.4.1 still has too many bugs to run Myster properly. I don't know if the same goes from limewire.

If you look at /usr/bin/javac its a symbolic link to /System/Library/Frameworks/JavaVM.framework/Versions/CurrentJDK. CurrentJDK is a symbolic link to the directory 1.4.1. So, if I were to use javac on the command line, or java for that matter, I'd get the 1.4.1 version. How is this different than if I were to run a program via an icon on the desktop?

You may want to do some double-checking on that. I have Netbeans running on my machine at home, and using ps and traversing a forest of links, I discovered that 1) netbeans is a .app package and 2) it was started with the 1.4.1 version of java.

 

[paulc]

p2p client

First, anyone who dabbles in p2p should immediately get Acquisition. Great little Cocoa app.

For a long while, that buggy POS 1.3.1 was the cause of MUCH grief with this app. But a lot of us started running the dev preview of 141. BIG difference. At least 13,756,97 oddities went away just from shifting to a MUCH MUCH better version of Java.

Funny that we kept being promised "world class Java" with the shipment of X. It wasn't even in the ballpark; w/ 141 we MAY have a good Java on the Mac.

 

[addertheblack]

Re: Re: 1.4.1 is not active with app bundles

Originally posted by jasonM
If you look at /usr/bin/javac its a symbolic link to /System/Library/Frameworks/JavaVM.framework/Versions/CurrentJDK. CurrentJDK is a symbolic link to the directory 1.4.1. So, if I were to use javac on the command line, or java for that matter, I'd get the 1.4.1 version. How is this different than if I were to run a program via an icon on the desktop?

You may want to do some double-checking on that. I have Netbeans running on my machine at home, and using ps and traversing a forest of links, I discovered that 1) netbeans is a .app package and 2) it was started with the 1.4.1 version of java.

http://developer.apple.com/techpubs/macosx/ReleaseNotes/java141/multiplevms/chapter_3_section_2.html

+ I actually tried double clicking on my app with 1.4.1 installed. it uses 1.3.1.

 

[edenwaith]

Mouse wheel scrolling!

Woo hoo! Mouse wheel scrolling, finally!

 

[Greenlightboi]

$%^&*@ SLOW!

I was hoping it would resolve some issue I was having with chat rooms I goto, but 1.4.1 just made all java apps (online) unuseable! ITs so slow and locks the computer up.

 

[macktheknife]

Re: Re: I hope borland ships their Jbuilder soon

Originally posted by ryan
Forget JBuilder, use Eclipse

Wow, I'm pretty impressed with Eclipse. Hopefully the release of Java 1.4.1 for OS X will encourage the folks developing Eclipse to release a Released Build. I will still have to say that JBuilder is much more polished, but Eclipse does definitely seem better than NetBeans.