Jim Dalrymple: Apple Music is a nightmare and I'm done with it

Discussion in 'Apple Music, Apple Pay, iCloud, Apple Services' started by Rogifan, Jul 22, 2015.

  1. Rogifan macrumors P6

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    Ouch! Coming from Dalrymple, this should send shockwaves in Cupertino. When does Eddy Cue get taken go the woodshed over Apple Music failures? I'm lucky in that I am not a heavy iTunes user and didn't have much personal music in iTunes (though what I did have Apple lumped into a playlist called 90's Music even though much of it is not from the 90's). I feel for those dealing with these issues. If only Dalrymple could have the same effect as Taylor Swift.

    http://www.loopinsight.com/2015/07/22/apple-music-is-a-nightmare-and-im-done-with-it/

     
  2. boltjames macrumors 68030

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    I was fortunate enough to read an alert and get directed to turn off iCloud Music Library before I accepted the free trial subscription so these issues never ruined my Library (I learned the hard way with iTunes Match).

    BJ
     
  3. McDaddio macrumors 6502a

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    It seems as if he should add an extra "A" to his name - Dairymaple seems to make more sense.

    Is that missing extra A a subtle implied protest against Apple?
     
  4. Rogifan thread starter macrumors P6

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    Schiller tweeted Jim's Watch review. Somehow I have a feeling he won't be doing the same with Apple Music. ;)

    [​IMG]
     
  5. tkermit macrumors 68030

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    The thing where Apple Music won't add any songs with names identical to those of other tracks on another album by that same artist existing in your library is infuriating. If you have an exiting Greatest Hits collection for some artist and start adding their albums on Apple Music you'll basically be missing each album's best tracks. Apparently that's by design too. :confused:
     
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  7. Khalanad75 macrumors 6502

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    I'm not huge into streaming, but I did give it a go. I thought the quality coming from my 6+'s speakers was downright horrible.

    I think I personally will stick with just purchasing the songs I like. Kudos to those that stick with it.
     
  8. Rogifan thread starter macrumors P6

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    Seems to me just grafting it on to iTunes was a mistake. iTunes was already horribly bloated. Adding a streaming music service that has an overwhelming number of options itself is a recipe for disaster.
     
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    Nice catch, Miss Rogifan.

    The truth will out.
     
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    I couldn't agree more.

    If they really wanted to do streaming, they should have made the whole iTunes catalogue of music streamable, and kept it all within iTunes. That would have been a user-friendly experience. You could then stream a song, and if you liked it enough, you could buy it all in the same place.

    But no, Cook had to waste $3 billion on Beats, because Cook is a politically-correct panderer, who puts diversity above quality of service.
     
  11. Ludatyk macrumors 65816

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    Don't get me wrong... Apple Music is far from perfect. I honestly feel for Dalyrmple, but the intregration with Siri & the Family Plan offering. I do see myself keeping it for the forseeable future.

    I've read plenty of complaints w/ Apple Music while many citing fustrations with the service, but all I hope is that given time Apple can fix the necessary issues. I believe Apple deserves that...
     
  12. McDaddio macrumors 6502a

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    Thanks for the Kudos!
    I appreciate it!
     
  13. boltjames macrumors 68030

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    I feel the same way, I tried it and it was pretty good at first but not good enough for the long haul.

    Besides, I have four kids and at $120 a year plus data overages it just doesn't make any economic sense.

    BJ
     
  14. ElCharro macrumors member

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    I'm really amazed Jim D. didn't back up his music library before testing the waters, as I'm pretty sure that was one of his very own recommendations a few weeks ago (I followed the advice, thank god). I do feel for him as losing large chunks of one's collection is devastating- been there years ago. As someone said above, I also keep Apple Music in the Cloud turned off on my Mac.

    Apple won't have an option but to fix this, especially with the attention Dalrymple's write up is bound to get.
     
  15. Supermallet macrumors 65816

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    They couldn't make the whole iTunes catalog streaming, because there are entirely separate licensing agreements in place for streaming versus selling. Furthermore, just saying, "Here, go to the iTunes Store and now you can stream tracks or buy them or both!" doesn't suddenly make a streaming service, it's an added feature to iTunes and doesn't have a lot of key features that other streaming services offer.

    Beats had been around for years, first as MOG, then as Beats, and had several high profile names associated with it who could give Apple leverage in making streaming deals. There was nothing foolish about buying Beats (you say wasted $3 billion as if it were your money they were spending), and I highly doubt Apple would spend $3 billion on a service simply for the sake of being "politically correct".

    Now, Apple Music has some severe flaws, especially for people who use iTunes/iTunes Match a lot already, but that had nothing to do with buying Beats. Those were problems integrating a new service with existing services, and likely would have existed even if Apple hadn't bought Beats.
     
  16. Benjamin Frost Suspended

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    It is my money; I'm a shareholder.

    I don't want Cook footling away my money on crackpot schemes; I want it back in the form of a dividend.

    And yes, Beats was a politically correct purchase; Cook was going for the black vote. Pity he didn't buy Spotify and be done with it.
     
  17. Supermallet macrumors 65816

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    You gave Apple $3 billion? Gee, I didn't realize you were such a high stakes shareholder!

    Apple Music is likely going to do exactly what Apple wants it to do: Help sell more iPhones. There's your dividend right there.

    Your comments on political correctness seem like they'd be more at home on a UKIP forum than an Apple one.
     
  18. McDaddio macrumors 6502a

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    Is Cook running for office?
    I would vote for him.
    He is a great leader.
     
  19. Arran macrumors 68040

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    Nah. Dalrymple is a small town in Scotland. Rhymes with "Pimple", "Dimple" and "Simple" :)

    Probably where his ancestors are from?
     
  20. Arran macrumors 68040

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    You could always sell: It's how the market speaks.

    You may have missed the boat however. I heard APL was down 7% in overnight trading last night, after earnings. Looks like it's down another 4% today.
     
  21. Rogifan thread starter macrumors P6

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    It's not down another 4%. That where it ended up today, so not as bad as the initial after market reaction to earnings.
     
  22. Rogifan thread starter macrumors P6

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    The Loop doesn't usually get a lot of comments on articles but this one sure did. And it's all over Twitter. There's no way Tim Cook and Eddy Cue haven't seen it. I get the feeling that 1) this was rushed out and 2) it was built based on checking off a list of features from marketing and then the software engineers and UI designers had go figure out how to cram all this stuff into the iOS app and iTunes. Jimmy Iovine and Eddy Cue can talk about curation all they want but if Apple Music can't get the basics right nobody is going to stick with it even if the curation is better than the competition.
     
  23. Paco II macrumors 65816

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    Streaming is not the problem here. Streaming is the part people mostly enjoy. The iTunes Match-type functionality is the cause of most problems. Apple should have fixed iTunes Match before using the same basic functionality in Apple Music.
     
  24. Itzamna macrumors regular

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    So far, zero problems... But i started my library from scratch adding my songs from Apple Music. It was a complete mess my library, so i decided to go Apple Music first and then add the ones i couldn't find (only a couple of albums)
     
  25. CaTOAGU macrumors 6502

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    Other than the issue where some people couldn't play things from connect (or sometimes stream anything at all), that seemed to be caused by DNS configuration issues at Apples end, I've had no real problems at all. That's not to say there aren't bugs and Apples attention does seem to be slipping in that regard.

    That said, syncing is hard, no one does it right all the time. Dropbox, Google Drive, Box, One Drive, Exchange. All of them have problems from time to time. Data shouldn't get lost, Apple needs to do better, but it does happen with all providers. And whilst I have sympathy for Jim's plight, (acknowledging that the bug that caused his problem isn't his fault), he should, especially as a tech journalist, know to back up, back up and back up again. For me that is the most shocking aspect of his story, that someone who's livelihood depends on technology doesn't backup his critical data.
     

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