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Jobs: Fix for iPhone Apps Crashing in September

We know that every executive in Apple's corporate office, and every software engineer that works for Apple has an iPhone 3G. They are experiencing all of the same problems that we are experiencing..
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Almost certainly not.

A major problem with Apple is their secrecy. For example, before its public debut, the first iPhone was only shown in one piece to about a half dozen Apple engineers.

The secrecy strangles being able to do decent, mass testing before sales start.

... What you have to remember here is that, unlike other platforms, this provides almost all functionality the phone can offer. Most mobile phones force third party stuff into a little box with a translator that only understands 100 words and is different for every model.... and this is why the apps suck nuts.
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What in the world are you talking about? Other mobile phones have very decent libraries that do not limit programmers in the many ways that Apple does.

iPhone 2.0 and MobileMe are what happens when you rush something to market.
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A Little Perspective

Everyone needs to take a step back and remember that you are using a bleeding edge technology that is years ahead of its time. When the original iPhone came out there was NOTHING on the market like it. It was not just another QWERTY smartphone, it was something completely different. When you go your own direction, and completely turn an industry on its head, you are bound to run into issues.

There is one serious flaw built into every software package ever written, and that is that a human being wrote it. There is no way to account for the way each app is going to handle the keystrokes that lead up to an error. Errors will always happen in software. It is just the way things are. OS X came out what, 7 years ago and they are still releasing updates? I know there is new functionality rolled into but the core of the system is unchanged. We have had iPhone 2.0 for 6 weeks. There are going to be bugs.

And if you really think that RIM, Nokia, Moto, or any other cell maker wouldn't change places with Apple in an instant you are fool. They all got their s%*# handed to them with iPhone and still have not caught up. Plam has not updates their OS in 4 years, Windows Mobile is Windows Mobile (if you have used it you know what I am talking about), and if RIM was not first to market with corporate Smart Phones they would have no market at all.

Rest assured everybody, you have the most revolutionary phone on the plant. I would even go as far to say that you have one of the most revolutionary products in history.

And before you call me a Mac fanboy, please know this was written from a vista box, on IE 7. My iPhone is the only Apple product I currently own. I had a MacBook for about 6 months and sold it. Could not stand OS X.
 
jbolls said:
Everyone needs to take a step back and remember that you are using a bleeding edge technology that is years ahead of its time.
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Bleeding edge? Hardly.

Frankly, without the Safari browser, and Jobs as a salesman, the iPhone would've made little stir on its own merits.

Hardware wise, the chips are common. Software wise, it's easy to tell that it's still being worked out on the fly.

What Apple did, was to come in with no legacy phones of their own to support, a big advantage.

More importantly, they came in with the idea of making usage fun and with few options to confuse people. They achieved this, but are now feeling the pain of users demanding more.

And if you really think that RIM, Nokia, Moto, or any other cell maker wouldn't change places with Apple in an instant you are fool. They all got their s%*# handed to them with iPhone and still have not caught up.
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No. For instance, the majority of phones still use buttons, and always will.

WM still sells more than Apple. Ditto for RIM, who actually has almost doubled their sales because of Apple promoting smartphone abilities.

One major affect was that Apple forced more R&D out into the open.

Rest assured everybody, you have the most revolutionary phone on the plant. I would even go as far to say that you have one of the most revolutionary products in history.
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I must be a lot older than you. I think the phone, TV, Velcro, VCR and microwave blow the iPhone out of the water as revolutionary, among many other examples. Heck, even Post-It notes have a greater effect on most people's lives.
 
Whtddhesay said:
I'm no expert on software development, or customer service, or quality control, but it would seem to me that if a computer operating system had as many bugs as the iPhone has, that distributer would be a laughing stock. When each version of OS X, or Vista, or anything else is released, there are inevitable 3rd party incompatibility issues, security holes (big or small), and other vulnerabilities. However, the iPhone OS versions, since the very beginning, seems to have had major functionality issues. Bluetooth connectivity, kernel stability, apps crashing, reception issues, error messages galore. I can't even recall all the issues. Basic functionality issues that a Motorola, Samsung, Nokia, LG, Palm, or RIM would never tolerate. Is this a result of the iPhone being a relatively new platform, or an incompetent development team? Is it my imagination, or is the iPhone an innovative, yet incomprehensibly immature total package?
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I would say it's your imagination. Osx or vista both have far more and more serious bugs than the iPhone. And at least no batteries are catching fire!
 
kdarling said:
Bleeding edge? Hardly.

Frankly, without the Safari browser, and Jobs as a salesman, the iPhone would've made little stir on its own merits.
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True, true. There were, after all, loads of multi-touch interface phones on the market before the iPhone. Oh, hang on, there weren't - and most of the touch interface-based phones that are around now are pretty blatant iPhone clones (Samsung Omnia anyone?).
 
alFR said:
True, true. There were, after all, loads of multi-touch interface phones on the market before the iPhone. Oh, hang on, there weren't - and most of the touch interface-based phones that are around now are pretty blatant iPhone clones (Samsung Omnia anyone?).
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Ya, multi-touch is like sliced bread! Come on. Multi-Touch is a neat feature but it hardly makes the iPhone revolutionary.
 
I'm kind of suspicious of this.

For one thing anyone can claim SJ responded to their emails.

For another, these crashes on startup seem like bugs in the third party apps to me. Only one of the apps I've downloaded does this. If it was a problem in an underlying framework that all apps use, all apps would have the same problem.

Apps are responsible for saving their state on exit and restoring their state on launch. A bug in either of those places would lead to this kind of problem.
 
alFR said:
Best Unboxing Video Ever. :)
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I hadn't seen that -- that was great! :)

I watched it at first with the sound off, though, and actually liked it better without the cameraperson's commentary.

Thanks for the link!

Take care,
Sojourn
 
I CANNOT STAND THE FLOOD OF NEGATIVE CRITISIM ABOUT THE iPhone CRASHING...

NEW RULE: IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO COMPLAIN ABOUT THE iPhone CRASHING, OR HAVING BUG, GET A LIFE!!!!! YOU DON'T DESERVE TO OWN AN APPLE PRODUCT....

RELAX! and WAIT, FOR GOD SAKES....

Apple is run by humans, iPhone is made by humans, and software within iPhone is run by humans...

Humans makes mistakes, and humans must fix those mistakes, and mistakes takes A LONG TIME TO FIX...

STOP WHINING AND WAIT FOR GOD ***** SAKES... You will be rewarded in the end with working firmware....
 
oticon6 said:
You guys are so negative -_-

Give Apple a break. No company has infinite resources or 100% perfect developers. If it's still problematic by the end of the year, then it's worthwhile complaining.

You could always... buy a different phone? OH WAIT, they all suck nuts :rolleyes:
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Amen.
 
Class action lawsuit?

None of my apps have worked for 2 weeks now. I paid a lot of money for them. Apple should give me and everyone else who is having this problem an immediate refund or they are almost certainly face a class action lawsuit. Imagine if Microsoft set up a software download site and every purchased app failed to launch even if you paid for it.

Apple has really blown it repeatedly with MobileMe, iPhone 3G, and the 2.0 software update and app store.
 
alchemistmuffin said:
I CANNOT STAND THE FLOOD OF NEGATIVE CRITISIM ABOUT THE iPhone CRASHING...

NEW RULE: IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO COMPLAIN ABOUT THE iPhone CRASHING, OR HAVING BUG, GET A LIFE!!!!! YOU DON'T DESERVE TO OWN AN APPLE PRODUCT....

RELAX! and WAIT, FOR GOD SAKES....

Apple is run by humans, iPhone is made by humans, and software within iPhone is run by humans...

Humans makes mistakes, and humans must fix those mistakes, and mistakes takes A LONG TIME TO FIX...

STOP WHINING AND WAIT FOR GOD ***** SAKES... You will be rewarded in the end with working firmware....
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So don't read them. Take a pill. Have a drink. Get some sunshine.
 
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