WWDC 08 is the earliest I believe we will see 10.6.
Let's all just enjoy Leopard for now.
It's good to know they are staying constant with the upgrades and the sales are surging.
Bah... Leopard is so '08...
WWDC 08 is the earliest I believe we will see 10.6.
Let's all just enjoy Leopard for now.
It's good to know they are staying constant with the upgrades and the sales are surging.
If the rumors of no PPC support in 10.6 are true, there will be a lot of p****d off G4 and G5 owners in 12-18 months time.
So if you stop making monthly payments, Apple will change its slogan to "It Just Doesn't Work"? Sorry, a subscription model just isn't going to happen for OS X.(7) This will be the last system Apple distributes openly. Users will be charged a monthly fee and will get monthly updates of the system without notice. It will just work and when there is a new feature it will tell you if necessary.
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I just hope Apple spends more time on the Mac in 2008 than the iPod, iPhone and AppleTV. There wasn't enough focus on the Mac in 2007. Now with Leopard ready to be released, they will pay more attention to the Mac. I'd like to see some new hardware options and some great new (completely new) software from Apple.
I disagree. I think the pace they've had has been good and an update every year is no problem in my book. Ubuntu gets one every 6 months and it keeps getting better. As long as they don't go through another entire architecture change which causes developers to rewrite their apps, I'm all for updates. Remember, you can always skip a release or two and still upgrade for the same price. All the innovation going into leopard really puts it ahead of Vista and XP. If they keep that up, then they'll really put the vista and xp behind the 8 ball.
They were very clear about taking precautions when updating to 6.10 and I believe that was part of the moniker edgy eft. So unless you didn't pay attention to the warnings on the site you would stick with 6.04 until a more stable and supported version came out.I recall that people upgrading from 6.06 to 6.10 encountered quite a number of problems, and that's the sort of thing that happens with frequent release cycles.
I think leopard qualifies as a major update. More so than ubuntu 6.04 to 6.10. The majority of 6.10 was under the hood.The primary reason for new OS releases should be major feature additions, major bug fixes, and major new hardware support.
I guess I'm supposed to make the assumption that you're saying there's no excuse for Apple not to support legacy hardware since Ubuntu supports such a plethora of hardware? Is that what you're saying?Mac OS X is targeted solely at Apple hardware - the range of necessary hardware support is much more limited. Most Apple computers can't have their sound or video cards upgraded, so supplying drivers for obscure pieces of hardware isn't a problem the OS X developers have to worry about. Apple's going to obtain the drivers along with the hardware that they themselves put into the machine before it reaches the consumer. To re-emphasize my point, this is quite a different matter for Linux which does not develop its own hardware.
Well the last G3 based computer which Apple released was based on the IBM 750FX and that was in 2002. That's 5 years ago. I understand what your saying, it would be nice to buy a computer and have it last forever, but things change. Just think if you could run leopard on your Mac Plus. Damn.. sweet. The improvements made to OS X have higher requirements, that's just the way it is. As I said, you don't have to upgrade the OS.I can imagine that within a year and a half most of my regular applications will require Leopard, which leaves-out G3 users and sub-800 something G4 users.
Well your conspiracy theory may be correct - I'm not mocking you. However, if you look at the requirements for iChat a/v then you might be able to answer your question. I think core graphics will play a huge role in that update as well.I may be wrong, but I haven't seen any technical reason given to drop support on G3. It's just's way of enticing people to upgrade their hardware.
The latest linux software from who? Are you planning on running WINE on a PPC G3 or just some other software?I love OS X, and I love the applications it runs, but two years from now, if I were a G3 user, I'd almost be forced to switch to Linux so I could have an OS capable of running the latest software.
Not sure why you put up the stink about legacy software with regards to the G3. It's a dead platform for the PC. I have a PowerBook G4 1.5ghz and everything ran fine until I updated to Adobe CS3. So Apples software wasn't causing me grief, it was third party software.Note: I am not a G3 user, my first Mac was an iBook G4 1.4ghz, and I currently have a MacBook C2D.
I think leopard qualifies as a major update. More so than ubuntu 6.04 to 6.10. The majority of 6.10 was under the hood.
I guess I'm supposed to make the assumption that you're saying there's no excuse for Apple not to support legacy hardware since Ubuntu supports such a plethora of hardware? Is that what you're saying?
Not sure why you put up the stink about legacy software with regards to the G3. It's a dead platform for the PC. I have a PowerBook G4 1.5ghz and everything ran fine until I updated to Adobe CS3. So Apples software wasn't causing me grief, it was third party software.
I have a G3, a 466 PowerBook w/ maxed memory; it runs Jaguar - just barely. I probably *could* have figured out how to shoehorn Panther onto it, but I wanted a functional computer, not a bench project - so I bought a G4. It runs Tiger just fine, and I'm sure it will run Leopard just fine, too.If a G3 is capable of running Leopard and Apple simply removed G3 support to entice its customers to buy new hardware, I think that's reason for a 'stink.'
I get ya. With Tiger they constantly had driver updates and things that improved networking etc. That's why I mentioned Apple releases much more than just under the hood improvements with an OS update. The speed in which Apple is developing useful features and applications to the OS is awesome. I personally believe Time Machine will be well worth the price of the upgrade.No, my main point here is to criticize your argument of: "Hey, Ubuntu makes releases every six months, why shouldn't Apple be able to do it every twelve to eighteen?!" Apple doesn't need to keep upgrading its OS to support a plethora of hardware - Linux does.
My problem with apple is on Oct 25 all major support for Tiger will be dropped. Hell I bet they already have dropped it. I think you are missing the point apple force obsoleteness is the problem. If apple did not shove that on people then Devs would still support the older OS.
I have met the p****d off G4 people and they are me.