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He is right about video.
But I believe the next generation of the iPod family should really update its screen and graphics. Same basic OS and organizational structure... but I can easily see a selected iPhoto library syncing to the iPod, so that it is like a modern day equivalent of all the wallet photos.
Is display technology good enough/cheap enough yet? I dunno, but it is such an obvious evolution.
But I believe the next generation of the iPod family should really update its screen and graphics. Same basic OS and organizational structure... but I can easily see a selected iPhoto library syncing to the iPod, so that it is like a modern day equivalent of all the wallet photos.
Is display technology good enough/cheap enough yet? I dunno, but it is such an obvious evolution.
I think the content issue (or lack of) is what would hurt a VideoiPOD. As was mentioned, there just isn't a simple way to download this weeks CSI episode (at least not yet). iPrimetime ?
What I'd like to see from Apple is an affordable, mast produced product that I can really use - the iSPOT. There are WiFi access points everywhere now (Buffalo Wild Wings Restaurants, Scholtzsky's Deli, Delta Crown Room, etc.) and I like keeping up with my email and browsing while at lunch. How about a iBookmini ? Take the iBook, remove the CD Drive and shrink the thing down with a 6 or 7 inch LCD screen (or smaller, if possible). Comes standard with Airport. Sell it for $699 and you'd get my money. If Sony can produce a CLIE UX-50 for $649, Apple can shrink the iBook.
What I'd like to see from Apple is an affordable, mast produced product that I can really use - the iSPOT. There are WiFi access points everywhere now (Buffalo Wild Wings Restaurants, Scholtzsky's Deli, Delta Crown Room, etc.) and I like keeping up with my email and browsing while at lunch. How about a iBookmini ? Take the iBook, remove the CD Drive and shrink the thing down with a 6 or 7 inch LCD screen (or smaller, if possible). Comes standard with Airport. Sell it for $699 and you'd get my money. If Sony can produce a CLIE UX-50 for $649, Apple can shrink the iBook.
The last line is the one that cough my attention: "Who knows what we've got in our labs."
Brings to mind several thoughts:
Those labs must be a fantastic place to work in. I can think of few places that would match that job.
While we don't know (but can always guess - however wrong) Apple has blown our minds more than a few times from the original Mac to the iPod. They always seem to come up with better ideas that I could ever dream of and better than most of the posts I have read.
Steve J has said that this is going to be a very exciting year. That should make even M Dell want to see what is going on in those labs.
Brings to mind several thoughts:
Those labs must be a fantastic place to work in. I can think of few places that would match that job.
While we don't know (but can always guess - however wrong) Apple has blown our minds more than a few times from the original Mac to the iPod. They always seem to come up with better ideas that I could ever dream of and better than most of the posts I have read.
Steve J has said that this is going to be a very exciting year. That should make even M Dell want to see what is going on in those labs.
I want:
To view my iPhoto lib on my iPod.
To view my digital photography on my iPod.
To view my digital video I just shot from my Canon XL.
To view my iPod menu screen in colour and get rid of the black and white look.
To use more app. via my iPod like controla Keynote with it.
If I can view a movie on it..then thats just and extra feature.
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I own a B&W 3 inch tv I use to love when I was working a night shift. You would be amazed how many people will watch some ball game on a 3 inch tv. I had like 5 people watching with me.
Re: Jobs on Portable Video Players
Jobs only said that they wouldn't come close to the success of audio players. And he's right. But, he never said a video player wouldn't be successful.
Jobs only said that they wouldn't come close to the success of audio players. And he's right. But, he never said a video player wouldn't be successful.
apple's definitely working on it
Maybe they're only tinkering with the idea, but I think that at the very least we'll see an iPod type gadget with a S-Video out and MPEG decoding chip.
It will allow you to carry around your iMovies and iPhoto albums and display them anywhere you have a TV or multimedia projector to tap in to.
In addition, many college students are downloading video, and not just movies, but also TV episodes, funny advertisements, etc. These are videos that are compressed to under 50 MB and thus are only the size of maybe, 10 songs.
Perhaps, "Apple introduces the vPod, holds 500 TV episodes!" Of course, movies compress pretty readily to around 650 MB, so even the 15GB vPod holds around 20 full-length movies.
An optional accessory will be a clip-on, 5" LCD screen for watching on the bus, on the plane, etc. Or maybe the vPod has a screen built-in, and folds out like cell phones do. Apple is obviously not planning to make phones, but maybe Apple and Sony-Ericcson collaborate to produce a phone/vPod.
With the proper AppleScripting, your TV-connected Mac could record the morning news for you, strip out the commercials, and compress it and put it on your vPod before you walk out the door.
Sure, some of these ideas are out there, but some of them make sense and could definitely be realized within the next few years.
Maybe they're only tinkering with the idea, but I think that at the very least we'll see an iPod type gadget with a S-Video out and MPEG decoding chip.
It will allow you to carry around your iMovies and iPhoto albums and display them anywhere you have a TV or multimedia projector to tap in to.
In addition, many college students are downloading video, and not just movies, but also TV episodes, funny advertisements, etc. These are videos that are compressed to under 50 MB and thus are only the size of maybe, 10 songs.
Perhaps, "Apple introduces the vPod, holds 500 TV episodes!" Of course, movies compress pretty readily to around 650 MB, so even the 15GB vPod holds around 20 full-length movies.
An optional accessory will be a clip-on, 5" LCD screen for watching on the bus, on the plane, etc. Or maybe the vPod has a screen built-in, and folds out like cell phones do. Apple is obviously not planning to make phones, but maybe Apple and Sony-Ericcson collaborate to produce a phone/vPod.
With the proper AppleScripting, your TV-connected Mac could record the morning news for you, strip out the commercials, and compress it and put it on your vPod before you walk out the door.
Sure, some of these ideas are out there, but some of them make sense and could definitely be realized within the next few years.
YES!
I've mentioned that several times on these forums. Using the same logic as in the miniaturization of the iPod, they should scale down the iBook. I still can't believe they haven't yet. Think of the cash Sony and Fujitsu are making. Apple believes that a lot of iPod mini buyers will be people who already own an iPod. It would probably be the same for a mini iBook.
Squire
steve's point is exactly how i feel. there is no equivalent for headphones. the experience simply isn't that great watching a movie on a tiny screen. but the main thing is the statement that people don't watch their favorite movies the same way they listen to their favorite music. we listen to the same music over and over every day. a few people might do that with a few movies, but it's a totally different experience. we don't just sit down and watch movies most of the time. it's more of a planned activity. but who plans when they're going to listen to music?
Well ... i don't plan when i'm going to watch a movie -- i get HBO type channels with movies on constantly so i just sit down and watch what's on or use the Video on Demand feature, or order Pay per View..
if you consider this planning then listening to music is a planned event ... i mean personally i can't do certain task wile listening to my iPod ie, give a presentation, study (effectively and efficiently), listen to lectures or other people -- so i really only listen to music when i'm sitting on the shuttle bus, or walking to class thats quite a distance away ...
people once said hard drived based mp3 players were a waste of time. now look where we are. apple would be crazy not to look into this further.
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Re: Jobs on Portable Video Players
Steve is sure being tricky here.
Just because a video "eyePod" wouldn't be as successful as audio players doesn't mean there won't be a small market for it, either now or soon.
And it definitely sounds like Apple is at least toying with the idea right now.
Steve is sure being tricky here.
Just because a video "eyePod" wouldn't be as successful as audio players doesn't mean there won't be a small market for it, either now or soon.
And it definitely sounds like Apple is at least toying with the idea right now.
What I find ironic....
Is that the keynote speech video is small enough in resolution to view on an iPod, but I can't download it and burn it onto a DVD so I can take it over to my friends house to watch it on his TV.
Is that the keynote speech video is small enough in resolution to view on an iPod, but I can't download it and burn it onto a DVD so I can take it over to my friends house to watch it on his TV.
Does not a single person here have a Tivo???
Of course you're not going to watch movies on your vPod. Movies are a tiny, tiny fraction of the video out there.
The vPod will be perfect for 60 Minutes, TLC, Discovery Channel, MTV, CSPAN, Headline news, etc. etc. etc.
NOT MOVIES!!!
You'll just set up your DVR (not TIvo since Tivo has an asinine policy of restricting program extraction) to record a few gigs of stuff, move it to your vPod and watch it whenever you get a chance. Perfect for things like 60 minutes where you might only be interested in in half of it anyway. Same with MTV.
I actually think it's a more important device than iPod. While you can sometimes get passionate about music, it's usually background. Video however gets your focus.
Of course you're not going to watch movies on your vPod. Movies are a tiny, tiny fraction of the video out there.
The vPod will be perfect for 60 Minutes, TLC, Discovery Channel, MTV, CSPAN, Headline news, etc. etc. etc.
NOT MOVIES!!!
You'll just set up your DVR (not TIvo since Tivo has an asinine policy of restricting program extraction) to record a few gigs of stuff, move it to your vPod and watch it whenever you get a chance. Perfect for things like 60 minutes where you might only be interested in in half of it anyway. Same with MTV.
I actually think it's a more important device than iPod. While you can sometimes get passionate about music, it's usually background. Video however gets your focus.
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If Apple can get better batteries in the iPods, then they will go color lcd surely in the near future.
There are very nice small screens available with a good res. (p900 for example)
Although you cannot watch the iPod screen while walking, working, sporting or driving, it would be nice if you could watch cd-cover art or even music video's, or play colorfull games.
But watching a movie on such a screen? No, Having a movie on the iPod and watching it on a bigger screen? Yes!
If Apple can get better batteries in the iPods, then they will go color lcd surely in the near future.
There are very nice small screens available with a good res. (p900 for example)
Although you cannot watch the iPod screen while walking, working, sporting or driving, it would be nice if you could watch cd-cover art or even music video's, or play colorfull games.
But watching a movie on such a screen? No, Having a movie on the iPod and watching it on a bigger screen? Yes!
Video Size
If a new ipod capable of playing standard DVD "Video_TS" folders of movies, we still have the problem with space.
Currently, I use "DVDBackup" to make identical copies of DVDs (my own, of course) and then I use "DVD2oneX" to compress the file size down under 4.7GB for burning ("Toast 6") ... but we're still talking around 4.5GB of space. On the current iPod top-o-the-line of 40GB, you might could get 8 movies on the unit, without any other room for music.
8 movies is fine, but the time it takes to actually rip the DVDs, compress them and then transfer them to the unit would too combersome for the casual user.
If a new ipod capable of playing standard DVD "Video_TS" folders of movies, we still have the problem with space.
Currently, I use "DVDBackup" to make identical copies of DVDs (my own, of course) and then I use "DVD2oneX" to compress the file size down under 4.7GB for burning ("Toast 6") ... but we're still talking around 4.5GB of space. On the current iPod top-o-the-line of 40GB, you might could get 8 movies on the unit, without any other room for music.
8 movies is fine, but the time it takes to actually rip the DVDs, compress them and then transfer them to the unit would too combersome for the casual user.
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I think it would be cool idea for apple to make a head mounted display type of gadget. I don't mean these silly goggle like things weve seen in the past. I mean like 1 small LCD screen placed about 2 inches away from 1 eye. It should be adjustable to fit on either the left or right side. An iSight built in so you can see who you are talking to on a ichat messenger type phone with Mpeg4/AAC streaming. Plus with aac you have the ability to listen to dolby digital sound which could be used to watch movies with special type of surround sound headphones. It can all be plugged into an ipod so you can store loads of songs and movies.
I think it would be cool idea for apple to make a head mounted display type of gadget. I don't mean these silly goggle like things weve seen in the past. I mean like 1 small LCD screen placed about 2 inches away from 1 eye. It should be adjustable to fit on either the left or right side. An iSight built in so you can see who you are talking to on a ichat messenger type phone with Mpeg4/AAC streaming. Plus with aac you have the ability to listen to dolby digital sound which could be used to watch movies with special type of surround sound headphones. It can all be plugged into an ipod so you can store loads of songs and movies.
It's very open... as usual, it lets us make up our own minds on what he's actually denying...
Here's one possibility of a translation:
1) For now it's better to play movies on real TVs
2) DVDs are the best way to get films now and we'll run with that
3) There's no market for watching a movie while jogging.
What Steve said is totally compatible with the iBox rumour (a device to replace your DVD and VCR). Record your TV programs to DVD, make copies of your home movies, listen to music (& copy CDs), view your iPhotos, pause live TV. But the iBox isn't portable at all.
Once an iBox device gets popular, it might be an easy extension to download TV shows to a vPod.
Hell, even something much simpler like reading an online version of the newspaper, or downloading the MacRumors site before catching a train - reading stuff, composing a reply etc.
i think i know wtf Apple should release.. take note
OK.. here's an interesting idea I had a few weeks back. With the Nokia N-Gage falling flat on its face and the Sony PSP due to incorporate at least some of the features we are looking for, we cannot rule out the possibility of Apple releasing something very similar. Everyone loves games, and this would be another thing to take with you anywhere and anytime (ala iPod).
When the iPod was originally released, Apple were basically saying "hey look. We don't sell music, but you can store up to x,000 illegally downloaded songs on this funky looking device!" . Somewhat to ease their conscience, Apple later release the iTMS. Now they are saying "hey look! we don't support copyright infringement! Our iPods can now hold $9,999 worth of legal music" (hmmmm.. come on.. how many of you don't have ANY 'illegal' MP3s..)
So why don't Apple do the same again? Why not take advantage of the fact that you can download and play ANY oldskool game and play them on a M.A.M.E supported iPlay (cheesy i know)? I have at least 100 amazing NEO-GEO games just sitting here! Why can't Apple take advantage and release some G3 based iPlay device? The latest Gameboy Advance games are completely pants when compared to the original Street Fighter arcades, or having every SNES, Megadrive, Lynx, Gameboy Advance, Neo-Geo, Arcade, NES game sitting in your pocket.
Of course there will be a huge hoo-ha over the copyright infringement, which would probably lead to an iPlay Game Store where you can download retro SNES (e.g.) game roms for a couple of dollars a pop.
My point is, Apple would instantly have one of the greatest portable games libraries available in the world. Couple all this with the ability to watch video files (ok, maybe not films etc.. but if you're an Apple addict i'm sure there are countless things sitting on your computer waiting to be watched.) and syncing contacts and all that stuff..
PLEASE APPLE MAKE MY DREAM COME TRUE!
OK.. here's an interesting idea I had a few weeks back. With the Nokia N-Gage falling flat on its face and the Sony PSP due to incorporate at least some of the features we are looking for, we cannot rule out the possibility of Apple releasing something very similar. Everyone loves games, and this would be another thing to take with you anywhere and anytime (ala iPod).
When the iPod was originally released, Apple were basically saying "hey look. We don't sell music, but you can store up to x,000 illegally downloaded songs on this funky looking device!" . Somewhat to ease their conscience, Apple later release the iTMS. Now they are saying "hey look! we don't support copyright infringement! Our iPods can now hold $9,999 worth of legal music" (hmmmm.. come on.. how many of you don't have ANY 'illegal' MP3s..)
So why don't Apple do the same again? Why not take advantage of the fact that you can download and play ANY oldskool game and play them on a M.A.M.E supported iPlay (cheesy i know)? I have at least 100 amazing NEO-GEO games just sitting here! Why can't Apple take advantage and release some G3 based iPlay device? The latest Gameboy Advance games are completely pants when compared to the original Street Fighter arcades, or having every SNES, Megadrive, Lynx, Gameboy Advance, Neo-Geo, Arcade, NES game sitting in your pocket.
Of course there will be a huge hoo-ha over the copyright infringement, which would probably lead to an iPlay Game Store where you can download retro SNES (e.g.) game roms for a couple of dollars a pop.
My point is, Apple would instantly have one of the greatest portable games libraries available in the world. Couple all this with the ability to watch video files (ok, maybe not films etc.. but if you're an Apple addict i'm sure there are countless things sitting on your computer waiting to be watched.) and syncing contacts and all that stuff..
PLEASE APPLE MAKE MY DREAM COME TRUE!
LOL
DJDarlek, that's a brilliant idea. They could even make it an arcade type thing were you can punch in credit card details and download coin op games legally. Gone will be the half arsed ports of arcade classics. The though of an arcade version of metal slug on the go.....niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice
DJDarlek, that's a brilliant idea. They could even make it an arcade type thing were you can punch in credit card details and download coin op games legally. Gone will be the half arsed ports of arcade classics. The though of an arcade version of metal slug on the go.....niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice