Jobs to Fill a Seat at Disney?

the_mole1314

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Take it with a grain of salt guys. Right now it seems that Disney is in trouble, and Eisner is pissed. I like the idea of Jobs as CEO of Disney and merging Pixar with it, but the problem is that Disney already has good foundation with HP.
 

MGnards

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Jun 18, 2003
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good stuff

as a disney employee, I think Jobs would make a great addition to the board-maybe turn things around a bit. Eisner is getting shut down left and right by the other board members-maybe it's time for him to retire...
 

strider42

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Originally posted by the_mole1314
Take it with a grain of salt guys. Right now it seems that Disney is in trouble, and Eisner is pissed. I like the idea of Jobs as CEO of Disney and merging Pixar with it, but the problem is that Disney already has good foundation with HP.
I hope pixar never merges with anyone. The moment they get merged with the culture at disney will be the moment they decide they can get away with basically doing the same story over and over again like disney does. Pixar is doing fine, better than fine, as an independent studio, and merging with disney does nothing but help disney and hurt pixar.

I doubt you'll see jobs on the board either. I don't think disney would want to give pixar that kind of clout unless disney really did want to take them over.
 

Coca-Cola

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Dec 10, 2002
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Goodbye DisneyWorld Hello PixarWorld.

Looking at share prices, Pixar could buy Disney in an aggresive takeover. Might as well, Disney is a fat leech sucking on Pixars back side.
 

the_mole1314

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Sep 16, 2003
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Re: Goodbye DisneyWorld Hello PixarWorld.

Originally posted by Coca-Cola
Looking at share prices, Pixar could buy Disney in an aggresive takeover. Might as well, Disney is a fat leech sucking on Pixars back side.
That'll be like the mouse eating the lion. Even Apple can't buy Disney.
 

macFanDave

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Apr 14, 2003
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Walt would approve

Walt Disney had a love of innovation and futuristic thinking. With that in mind, I'd argue that Steve Jobs is one of the ONLY candidates for CEO that would take Disney in the direction that Walt probably would have wanted.

Except I seriously doubt that today's Disney Corp. has anything to do with Walt's vision or ideals, they'll probably end up with Michael Capellas, bean-counter extraordinaire!
 

displaced

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Jun 23, 2003
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I was reading in the paper some interesting stuff about Disney's current predicament, particularly Roy Disney's recent resignation from the Company.

Here's a link to the article:
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/story.jsp?story=469249

It mentions the current strained relationship between Disney and companies such as Pixar and Miramax.

I don't see why Jobs would end up on the board of Disney... Pixar's probably got studios queuing up to do their distribution... probably even Disney's nemesis, Dreamworks.

Disney are going through a well-deserved rough patch. They've been treating their audiences with contempt by releasing reheated crap and hoping it can pull in enough marketing $$$. But I hope they sort themselves out and recover that sense of specialness.
 

Mr. Anderson

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Eisner and Jobs won't sit on the same board together. For Jobs to be on the board, Eisner would have to step down. I don't think he's going to do that either.

And Pixar should never merge with any company - they've got enough going that they don't need it.

D
 

actionslacks

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Jul 25, 2003
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Re: Goodbye DisneyWorld Hello PixarWorld.

Originally posted by Coca-Cola
Looking at share prices, Pixar could buy Disney in an aggresive takeover. Might as well, Disney is a fat leech sucking on Pixars back side.

That's laughable. Although Pixar is enjoying success and Disney is going through a rough time, Disney is still a MUCH MUCH larger company with vast assets and holdings.

Steve Jobs may sit on Disney's board, but that has NOTHING to do with Pixar. Pixar only owes Disney 1 more film and then they can distribute with whomever they want. They are completely autonomous.
 

Dont Hurt Me

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Dec 21, 2002
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Re: Walt would approve

Originally posted by macFanDave
Walt Disney had a love of innovation and futuristic thinking. With that in mind, I'd argue that Steve Jobs is one of the ONLY candidates for CEO that would take Disney in the direction that Walt probably would have wanted.

Except I seriously doubt that today's Disney Corp. has anything to do with Walt's vision or ideals, they'll probably end up with Michael Capellas, bean-counter extraordinaire!
lets hope not, no better way to kill off a company then to let a bean counter run it. Apple was almost done in by the bean counter:eek:
 

PeteyKohut

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Mar 7, 2002
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Re: Walt would approve

Originally posted by macFanDave
Walt Disney had a love of innovation and futuristic thinking. With that in mind, I'd argue that Steve Jobs is one of the ONLY candidates for CEO that would take Disney in the direction that Walt probably would have wanted.

Except I seriously doubt that today's Disney Corp. has anything to do with Walt's vision or ideals, they'll probably end up with Michael Capellas, bean-counter extraordinaire!
I don't think I could have said it better myself....Steve Jobs is one of the most foward thinking people out there, but.....it will never happen, though I wish it would.
 

ceriess

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Oct 25, 2003
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Eisner on his way out anyway

Heads are rolling as the mouse is on a bloody chopping spree. Too much angst as Disney churns out dark seemy horror porn while Pixar is delivering high end animated "family" enterntainment. Of course they want Jobs on the board. Hell, they'd probably love to have Pixar just buy them out. Jobs is the new Walt. Visionary, hubristic, charismatic and most likely an owner of a cryogenic tank of his own.
 

AirUncleP

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Dec 19, 2002
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Re: Jobs to Fill a Seat at Disney?

Originally posted by Macrumors
Eisner, however, does not like Jobs.
The only reason Eisner does not like Jobs is because Eisner doesn't like anything that might keep him from having another 15 million dollar a year paycheck.
 

Splunge

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Dec 4, 2003
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Pixar purchase not going to happen

Ugh. There's more to stocks than just share price. Pixar has nowhere near the possible money to buy Disney.

Share price is simply the value of the company / number of shares of the company issued.

Take a look at the share price of Berkshire Hathaway (BRKa): $84,200 - Yes, eighty four thousand two hundred dollars for 1 share. Does that mean they're the best company in the world? No. You probably hadn't heard of them until now.

You need to look at the # of shares * share price to see how much the company is worth. This # is the "Market Capitalization" (market cap).

Co. Price Market Cap
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Pixar $68.10 $3.76B
Disney $22.40 $44.37B

So pixar's share price is 3x disney's. The company isn't worth 1/10th of Disney though.

Microsoft's share price, incidentally, is ~ $25. That doesn't mean Pixar can buy them out either though.
 

mcsjgs

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Nov 5, 2003
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As has been said, Steve Jobs is probably the Walt Disney of our times, no doubt about it.

But I give the chance he'll get a seat on the board of Disney the same as the proverbial snowball's in Hades.
 

macFanDave

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Apr 14, 2003
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Man, I thought it was just me.

Originally posted by ceriess
Too much angst as Disney churns out dark seemy horror porn
I'm glad someone's with me. Wasn't the older sister in "Lilo and Stitch" hot-hot-hot!?
 

legion

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Jul 31, 2003
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Eisner's doing fine and he has the support of the shareholders. On top of that, he just got rid of his two enemies in the boardroom (so he's king of the world at the moment) Disney's in a forward position right now.

Disney would also never offer Jobs a position on the board. It'd be a case of too many chiefs (after all, how'd you get SJ to keep his arrogant mouth shut long enough to run a meeting; love him or hate him, his rep is pretty rock solid as such.) On top of that, Jobs isn't much of a business genius; ie, there are better business men out there. Jobs is a great creative director... but that's not where a board member places his/her influence.
 

bbarnhart

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Jan 16, 2002
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I think most of the creative credit for Pixar belongs to John Lasseter. After Jobs, left Apple, he bought Pixar from Lucas and learned how to run a company. Then he came back to Apple. However, Jobs was instrumental in getting the distribution deal with Disney.

Not that Jobs isn't a visionary and blah, blah, blah, but Lasseter is responsible for most of the creative stories for the movies. Jobs for the business side of things.
 

MongoTheGeek

macrumors 68040
Re: Man, I thought it was just me.

Originally posted by macFanDave
I'm glad someone's with me. Wasn't the older sister in "Lilo and Stitch" hot-hot-hot!?
Tia Carrera. Even hotter in person. She has done some other movies (Waynes World, True Lies) and put out a couple of rock albums.

Disney has lost its way. It won't be taken over. Getting rid of Eisner would probably be a good thing. Getting Jobs on the board might be a good thing.

From what I understand seats on boards can be a very low inpact activity. Jobs would probably only have to fly to LA to pick up sacks of filthy lucre and maybe use the RDF at a couple of press conferences.

Picture the possibilities though. MacWorld Orlando...
 

strider42

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Feb 1, 2002
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Originally posted by bbarnhart
I think most of the creative credit for Pixar belongs to John Lasseter. After Jobs, left Apple, he bought Pixar from Lucas and learned how to run a company. Then he came back to Apple. However, Jobs was instrumental in getting the distribution deal with Disney.

Not that Jobs isn't a visionary and blah, blah, blah, but Lasseter is responsible for most of the creative stories for the movies. Jobs for the business side of things.
Jobs isn't responsible for just about anything creative in his life. Woz did all the work for him initially, then new people came in for the macintosh, yet more people are repsonsible for what apple puts out now. Jobs has input, but none of it is really his design or vision.

What he is though is an executive who allows those under him to do their best work, to be creative and try new things. That is what disney missing. Their management doesn't seem to want anything creative to come out, because its risky. Pixar and apple can't afford to be conservative. Thats why Jobs works so well for them, he lets them take risks.
 
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