Free so long as you are active enough each month - that's what the health data is for. Any month where you don't get enough points for being active you pay - sliding scale depending on how inactive you were.How come the same argument doesn't apply to social media? You've already lost to Facebook and Google so just give up?
It's not even free, you still pay for it in instalments.
No disrespect but don't be so paranoid.No disrespect but don't be so naive.
Free so long as you are active enough each month - that's what the health data is for. Any month where you don't get enough points for being active you pay - sliding scale depending on how inactive you were.
Not really comparable. The driving monitoring boxes are designed as systems to penalise you and increase your premiums.Yep. My car insurance wants to send me a gadget that monitors my car. Well give ya a discount. Heck no. The worse thing you can do is give insurance companies more info than what is required.
There’s no upside there. Plenty of downside.
Now they want you to wear a gadget that monitors you? Thanks but no thanks.
I'm selling that I walked [n] steps, and had these occasional heart rates - super private stuff!So you're literally selling your data month by month. $19.75/month to monitor your health data. Creepy AF.
Is this really how the medical insurance business works in the US? If you provide the HMO or company with data you are "rewarded" with " free cinema tickets, free Apple Watch, free Amazon Prime, reduced premiums). Probably more effective, efficient and less expensive if they stuck to the basic essentials: providing affordable medical coverage to the whole population.Free so long as you are active enough each month - that's what the health data is for. Any month where you don't get enough points for being active you pay - sliding scale depending on how inactive you were.
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No disrespect but don't be so paranoid.
A quick(ish) read of Vitality's privacy policies and their insurance documents confirm that they aren't using your health data to deny your claims.
Should that policy change in the future - highly unlikely unless it was a general market shift, no evidence to suggest that is imminent - you're free to take your business elsewhere.
Or stop sharing the data with them. You'd lose your perks (free coffee, free cinema tickets, free Apple Watch, free Amazon Prime, reduced premiums), but at least you'd be nice and safe under your tin hat.
No idea. I use Vitality Life in UK.Is this really how the medical insurance business works in the US? If you provide the HMO or company with data you are "rewarded" with " free cinema tickets, free Apple Watch, free Amazon Prime, reduced premiums). Probably more effective, efficient and less expensive if they stuck to the basic essentials: providing affordable medical coverage to the whole population.
Ok. In the UK. Your "private" insurance beyond the NHS offers these "inducements"?No idea. I use Vitality Life in UK.
It’s life insurance. NHS provides health care.Ok. In the UK. Your "private" insurance beyond the NHS offers these "inducements"?
Too bad term life insurance is such a scam.
Yep. My car insurance wants to send me a gadget that monitors my car. Well give ya a discount. Heck no. The worse thing you can do is give insurance companies more info than what is required.
There’s no upside there. Plenty of downside.
Now they want you to wear a gadget that monitors you? Thanks but no thanks.
"With the John Hancock Vitality Apple Watch program, policyholders can choose the Series 5 (40mm) or Series 3 (38mm), pay a $25 initial fee (plus tax), and get started. They can also customize their watch with features like cellular or a larger face size for a one-time upgrade fee. "
Anyone that is part of this or that went through with it- what is the upgrade fee?
Yep, it's from Apple, as one of their collaborations. It's a "Hermès - 40mm Noir Swift Leather Double Tour" ... and it costs about as much as an Apple Watch. No doubt you can find knockoffs (of varying quality) on Amazon or eBay. (The related "Single Tour" is quite lovely, but I just can't justify that kind of money for a watch band.)Anyone know where to get that black double loop band? Does apple sell that?
Think carefully before sharing health data with a company that profits from that data.
Too bad term life insurance is such a scam.
Really! They take your money. Then, when it's time to pay out...they make up some reason to not pay.Too bad term life insurance is such a scam.