TigerDirect SMACKDOWN. Good. I thought the lawsuit was frivilous and a complete joke anyway. I also have a very low opinion of a company I didn't really know about before this stupid lawsuit. So, I guess they won't be getting much business from Mac users in the future.
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Judge Denies TigerDirect's Request for Injunction
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Is there really an argument about coffee temperature going on in here or has my common sense gland started malfunctioning again?
If you don't know that coffee is hot and you put it between your legs and drive off (if that is what happened....I know nothing about this case) then you are a moron and deserve to get scolded. Perhaps she'll sue a scissor company because she was running with a pair in her mouth and tripped next.
It's lawsuits such as these that mean we have to endure signs everywhere for the morons of the world proclaiming things like 'Slippery When Wet' or 'Mind Your Head' or 'Coffee Is Hot'. I say we stop putting warning signs on things and let natural selection take care of the less intellectually gifted among us.
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If you don't know that coffee is hot and you put it between your legs and drive off (if that is what happened....I know nothing about this case) then you are a moron and deserve to get scolded. Perhaps she'll sue a scissor company because she was running with a pair in her mouth and tripped next.
It's lawsuits such as these that mean we have to endure signs everywhere for the morons of the world proclaiming things like 'Slippery When Wet' or 'Mind Your Head' or 'Coffee Is Hot'. I say we stop putting warning signs on things and let natural selection take care of the less intellectually gifted among us.
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Do you really think that M knowingly with the intent to cause burn cases increased the temperature of the coffee?? If so, why on earths name would they do that? M is a big company, I dont doubt that they through test have figured out the optimal preparing temp. for coffee. (sidenote, If you knew anything about preparing coffee you would know that in order to take full advantage of the coffee, you need very high temp.)NEENAHBOY said:
I dont doubt there are many burn cases of coffee. As I said you have to handle it with care, and any sensible person should know that the coffee is supposed to be hot. Hence, you can not treat it as it was a can of coke.
...what kind of argument is that?NEENAHBOY said:
It would serve the discussion better if you stated why people should be treated like they just had arrived from another dimension where the laws of nature doesn't hold.
MacRy said:
sorry, a bit off topic I know. I was arguing that the TigerDirect lawsuit was just another frivolous lawsuit. But ok, I shut up and go and get a cup of coffee...
btw, I couldn't agree more with what you wrote
Dr.Gargoyle said:sorry, a bit off topic I know. I was arguing that the TigerDirect lawsuit was just another frivolous lawsuit. But ok, I shut up and go and get a cup of coffee...
btw, I couldn't agree more with what you wrote
Hey dude I wasn't having a go at you I promise. In fact I totally agreed with what you were saying.
Be careful with that coffee though.......
Thanks, but I am not, unlike the lady with the scolded thighs, going for the Darwin award.MacRy said:Hey dude I wasn't having a go at you I promise. In fact I totally agreed with what you were saying.
Be careful with that coffee though.......
Dr.Gargoyle said:
Not third degree burn hot.
You're basically saying that coffee should normally be hot enough to scorch the esophagus badly enough to require hospitalization.
Sorry, but I don't think so. (Um, who's the one not using common sense here?)
Dr.Gargoyle said:
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McDonald's quality assurance manager testified that the company actively enforces a requirement that coffee be held in the pot at 185 degrees, plus or minus five degrees. He also testified that a burn hazard exists with any food substance served at 140 degrees or above, and that McDonald's coffee, at the temperature at which it was poured into styrofoam cups, was not fit for consumption because it would burn the mouth and throat. The quality assurance manager admitted that burns would occur, but testified that McDonald's had no intention of reducing the "holding temperature" of its coffee.
McDonald's asserted that customers buy coffee on their way to work or home, intending to consume it there. However, the company's own search showed that customers intend to consume the coffee immediately while driving.
And if anyone's interested, the case in question is called Liebeck v. McDonald's Corporation, P.T.S., Inc.
a) Boiling water will scold you to the extent that you will get third degree burn wounds.gwangung said:
b) Boiling water is exactly what is needed in the preparation of coffee. (Ok, you can use lukewarm tap water, but the coffee will taste accordingly.)
c) Everybody should know this.
d) Hence be careful if you plan to place the cup in between your thighs.
This is a bit off topic, so let us please end this sidetrack here, ok? If you want to continue, let's start a new thread in the appropriate section.
NEENAHBOY said:
OT, but the correct water temperature to make coffee is thought to be 93°C or 199°F, so serving coffee at 145°F needs some time for cooling. Not very practical. Personally I wouldn't accept lukewarm coffee, not even from McDonalds.
And to the actual subject: That was the correct decision. TigerDirect never had a case.
As I said before, there is a lag between the time of preparation and the time of consumption at a restaurant. The probability that the coffee wont be served directly after being prepared can be assumed to be rather high, dont you agree?snkTab said:
Since the temperature of the coffee is converging logarithmically to the surunding temperature and serving temperature is vital for the taste (I can't believe I am writing this...), the best strategy in order to be able serving good (hot) coffee is to prepare it as hot as possible. This is of course because you dont know how long it will take until consumption.
When you are served coffee at a restaurant you can theoretically get any temp between prep. temp and room temp. In most cases the coffee will be served at a perfect temp.
BUT, common sense should tell you to always check the temp. before handling it like the woman at M did.
I am done with this discussion...
Hey! TigerDirect Lost their Petty Case
Let's stop talking about Micky D's and their hot coffee lawsuit.
I am glad Teeger Direct was smacked down. Complete jackasses they are.
Now, unlike some of you, I will buy from them if they have the lowest price on something I want. I like Apple's products, but common sense must prevail.
Let's stop talking about Micky D's and their hot coffee lawsuit.
I am glad Teeger Direct was smacked down. Complete jackasses they are.
Now, unlike some of you, I will buy from them if they have the lowest price on something I want. I like Apple's products, but common sense must prevail.
please, please... Don't start it up again...MacNut said:For some reason I feel like getting a coffee and using Tiger.
At least SOMEBODY has a shred of common sense in this world.
TigerDirect was one thing, but didn't some hockey team named the Wild-Cats (or something like that), which used to be called the Tigers want Apple to also pay them? That's just absolutely ridiculous. Will Kellogg's sue them because of Tony the Tiger? Or how about the Tiger Scouts? Maybe they should sue, also!
I'm just really sick of how many people are just after the quick buck and try to go after those who do have the money. Hmmm....maybe winning the lottery would be a bad idea.
"I am your father..."
"No you're not. You just want my money."
TigerDirect was one thing, but didn't some hockey team named the Wild-Cats (or something like that), which used to be called the Tigers want Apple to also pay them? That's just absolutely ridiculous. Will Kellogg's sue them because of Tony the Tiger? Or how about the Tiger Scouts? Maybe they should sue, also!
I'm just really sick of how many people are just after the quick buck and try to go after those who do have the money. Hmmm....maybe winning the lottery would be a bad idea.
"I am your father..."
"No you're not. You just want my money."
Was there any question they would lose. What were they thinking in the first place - except for maybe publicity?
Before this whole mess even started I had never even heard of TigerDirect. Maybe this is just some clever Marketing ploy by them to try and make a better name for themselves...