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Using third-party hacks to get your $3,500 device to perform like it's priced to perform is like putting Milestar retreads on your McLaren Elva. 🤣
Apple’s strategy has long been “build it and they will come”. When the iPhone was first released, there wasn’t even an App Store.
 
How is Google not developing a YouTube app for Vision 'on Apple'? Genuine question - is Apple in some way preventing them?
Many of these companies just don’t believe it’s worth the effort… yet. If Apple Vision Pro reaches a certain threshold of units sold, I’m sure they will reconsider.
 
Those of you who didn't buy an AVP on day one. Why not? Why aren't you doing your part to support Apple? Why aren't you helping to grow the ecosystem? By waiting, you're not giving Apple the support it deserves for creating such an important product.

Now flip the script: Why isn't [developer] porting [key product] to the AVP on day one?

Answer in both cases: Because they don't want to / aren't ready / can't afford to / have different priorities / want to wait and see how the ecosystem develops / want to formulate a use case / or any one of a hundred other reasons.

"But I want it now" Just makes you a Veruca Salt.
 
I can't see this ending well and I'm surprised Christian is taking a risk like this.

He got burned by Reddit when they altered the deal on him. YouTube doesn't even have an API for this, and they're already cracking down on ad blockers. How can he possibly believe that they won't cut off his app?
I know the internet is for not fact checking, but sheesh.

 
I find this “who offers an AVP app and who does not” topic and the hysteria around it really childish. The fact is that the current version of AVP is insignificant to most users and developers. For many, it currectly makes no economic sense to release an app for the AVP.
Except they could allow their iPad apps to run. It doesn’t cost them anything to do so.
 
Except they could allow their iPad apps to run. It doesn’t cost them anything to do so.
I wrote somewhere else that a poor user experience because of an app that isn’t customized for usage on the AVP could be detrimental to their brand and/or the AVP platform as a whole. So, bottom line: No app is better than a bad app.
 
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Except they could allow their iPad apps to run. It doesn’t cost them anything to do so.
Not for you to decide, that's for the developer to decide. There are inherent support costs to adding another platform to the mix, regardless if it's a whole-new, ground-up app, or just "flipping a switch" on an existing app.

You'll note most developers don't let their iPhone/iPad apps run on Apple Silicon Macs, either. Same thing.
 
I think it's kinda weird that this developer keeps pursuing this business model of creating unofficial versions of stablished apps just to be eventually shutdown and then cry a river on Twitter...
in this particular case, he didn't spend a lot of time on it, like a week supposedly. I imagine he'll cash in on the launch, put some bug fixes here and there, and then move on.
 
Real question here. How much traction in the general public does everyone think a $3500 device can have?

Given the reports of the Vision Pro having very limited supply early on, I don’t think Apple will have issues selling every Vision Pro unit that they do manufacture, for the first one to two years at least. Apple isn’t run by idiots. The high price is likely intended to maximise profits when you factor in the low supply. There is no point in charging an artificially low price to stoke demand that you know you can’t meet anyways.

By the time the device becomes mainstream and it’s more widely accepted to be seen using one in public, Apple should have a gen 2 offering ready. Perhaps cheaper, with a more established app ecosystem, and more publicly available.

It’s pretty much in line with the adoption curve theory.
 
Great to have an alternative but don't think it will be too bad to access it via Safari
 
I mean, if someone just spent $3500+ on a Vision Pro, I’d think “risking” $4.99 to watch YouTube wouldn’t be much of a stretch.

Your counterargument is that money means nothing to me and that's not true . I expect to get $3500 of value out of this device. I don't feel confident getting $5 in value out of Christian's app until I'm certain that Youtube doesn't kill the api first. I'm not running around literally setting $5 on fire every chance I have.

Today we have news that YouTube is working on their own app, it'll be free and support 4K so I am glad I held off purchasing a 3rd party app that will be made obsolete in the near future. I have an AppleTV where I watch all of YouTube content today so I'll keep using that until the official app arrives.
 
Your counterargument is that money means nothing to me and that's not true . I expect to get $3500 of value out of this device. I don't feel confident getting $5 in value out of Christian's app until I'm certain that Youtube doesn't kill the api first. I'm not running around literally setting $5 on fire every chance I have.

Today we have news that YouTube is working on their own app, it'll be free and support 4K so I am glad I held off purchasing a 3rd party app that will be made obsolete in the near future. I have an AppleTV where I watch all of YouTube content today so I'll keep using that until the official app arrives.

It’s relative, and it sounds crazy to say you wouldn’t spend $5 for an app that allows you to play something important like YouTube on a $3500 device, even if it’s just for a single day, let alone a week or a month.
 
What are the odds that Juno still ends up being a superior app to YouTube if and when it does get released for the Vision Pro? :cool:

Considering the attention to detail and usability that Selig had put into apollo, i'd say pretty damn high.

When the time comes for him and google to meet, hopefully google don't fumble the ball like reddit did
 
It’s relative, and it sounds crazy to say you wouldn’t spend $5 for an app that allows you to play something important like YouTube on a $3500 device, even if it’s just for a single day, let alone a week or a month.
YouTube.com is working perfectly
 
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