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And I would be remiss if I didn't mention that the top of the line iMac with the 3.4 GHZ option will beat the quad mac pro 5,1 in every single CPU benchmark while costing almost $500 less. Something to think about if gaming is the goal.

Now that the 7xx GPU's are out the quad can upgrade the iMac cannot. The same applies to the processor, that change will push it above the imac by the same amount the iMac beats the quad now. Mac Pro flexibility vs iMac limited modernness.
 
I jumped from a 2008 8 core to a 2012 12 core and it is a huge difference.
Much more headroom for processor intensive tasks.
I'm using it mostly for music.
Major improvement for me.
 
He mentions the beach ball.
Is it possible the 10GB of RAM is not enough?
I don't know what the 2008 MP had, but if it is the same, 8 cores with 10GB is not the same as 12 cores with 10GB. Especially in single core operations.
Clean installs always rock.
Old HDD's never do.
 
I have 3 monitors and extra backup hds. Hard to go with an iMac in my case.

I just ran battlefield on my computer. I'm constantly maxed at 60 fps huge improvement. It only slightly dropped when I went to ultra graphics settings. Very impressed.

Does streaming your computer to like twitch.tv require more cores or a high CPU clock speed?

My last computer could not handle steaming and playing games at the same time very well.
 
Does streaming your computer to like twitch.tv require more cores or a high CPU clock speed?

My last computer could not handle steaming and playing games at the same time very well.

fairly low latency drives, fast-ish Nic, and a quiet network is all ya need to stream 1080p. Even an ancient PentiumPro with 1GB RAM will do if those other conditions are met. :)

With my MP1,1 just using one of the Nics I can stream four 1080P movies (to different machines on the LAN) without seeing the CPU graphs increase almost at all. And that only requires about 1.2MB/s total bandwidth over the LAN.
 
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fairly low latency drives, fast-ish Nic, and a quiet network is all ya need to stream 1080p. Even an ancient PentiumPro with 1GB RAM will do if those other conditions are met. :)

Go into the PowerPC section and tell them that..My quad could stream 1080 in full screen and that was it if you did anything else it lagged.
 
Go into the PowerPC section and tell them that..My quad could stream 1080 in full screen and that was it if you did anything else it lagged.

If it lagged then it's because something was contenting for bus time and preventing the stream data from populating as it should. Nothing to do with CPU speed (if in a DMA system).

And remember... we're specifically talking about over a network here. Not to a GPU in the same system - which is a different bag of butterflies.
 
If it lagged then it's because something was contenting for bus time and preventing the stream data from populating as it should. Nothing to do with CPU speed (if in a DMA system).

And remember... we're specifically talking about over a network here. Not to a GPU in the same system - which is a different bag of butterflies.

my quad was hooked to the same network my MP's were/are..

SSD same on both, more than enough RAM on both the difference is the computer..The MP's can the Quad could not..
 
Yeah, when I streamed battlefield to twitch, it lagged the game terribly. It wasn't a network issue either. I have a very good ping and download/upload speed.

I'll try it today and see it how it does, but I'm still going to the quad.
 
Ya I dunno twitch specifically. If you're streaming from a file then it is as I explained. I guess twitch must screen-grab at the same time so of course that's yet another bag of butterflies.

Streaming itself doesn't need much to accomplish. You just have to keep the stream saturated and that's only about 200 to 300KB/s per stream for 1080/p 30 with surround. If you're additionally writing 20 or 30 screen grabs per second or sending that stream to a GPU then there's going to be other issues to consider.
 
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Well, to me it sounds like I want the 3.2 GHZ. I'm exchanging that now.

I don't see why you can't just clock the 2.4 to 3.2. I remember the older ones were able to be clocked at that speed and be perfectly fine.
 
I don't see why you can't just clock the 2.4 to 3.2. I remember the older ones were able to be clocked at that speed and be perfectly fine.

None of the Mac Pros were able to be selectively clocked from the factory and the only ones that could be overclocked were by using a software USB overclock utility.
 
Well, to me it sounds like I want the 3.2 GHZ. I'm exchanging that now.

I don't see why you can't just clock the 2.4 to 3.2. I remember the older ones were able to be clocked at that speed and be perfectly fine.


Do yourself a favour and wait until Monday's WWDC keynote. The current Mac Pro is honestly not even close to worth the money if games are you goal. A new Mac Pro should at least have a modern video card which would be MUCH better suited to games. Not to mention much newer CPU's and USB 3.0 and so on.
 
No mac is designed for any heavy gaming at all.. what are you talking about? No, if the OP wants to play heavy duty games and use SLI or real CROSSFIRE, then he is better served by building his own PC. The new Mac Pro if it should come it going to be a big disappointment given that so far there will be no internal expansion at all for it..

It will probably resemble that of a Mac Mini just with PRO stuck on it.

No, PC is the way to go for extreme, heavy gaming.. NOT THE MAC.


Do yourself a favour and wait until Monday's WWDC keynote. The current Mac Pro is honestly not even close to worth the money if games are you goal. A new Mac Pro should at least have a modern video card which would be MUCH better suited to games. Not to mention much newer CPU's and USB 3.0 and so on.
 
I wonder when the new Mac Pro is coming out....

If you are planning to put your same hard drive (and or GPU. Does not matter) in whatever comes out it will feel just as slow as the 2008 and the 2010 doing what you are doing. You should have saved $2000.00 and bought a $200.00 SSD.:)

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Do yourself a favour and wait until Monday's WWDC keynote. The current Mac Pro is honestly not even close to worth the money if games are you goal. A new Mac Pro should at least have a modern video card which would be MUCH better suited to games. Not to mention much newer CPU's and USB 3.0 and so on.

I have a GTX 680 in my Mac Pro. Is that not suited to games? The 3,33GHz hex uses barely 40% on even demanding games. PCI 3, SATA 3, more powerful PSU are better indicators of game possibilities for the new "Pro". Your going to get a crap card by default. Plan for it.
 
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Good news... Even with the old card, the 3.4GHZ is sweet! Very fast and handles all my games for the most part. Can't wait to see how it performs with a GTX GPU installed. I'm going with a 660 or 680.
 
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