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forty2j said:
Well good. 'Cuz I'm pretty sure there's more important things in life than posting what computer equipment you own on the internet and suggesting people alter their purchasing habits.
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Wasn't going to respond to this thread but feel like I have to. The haters now cone out the wood work. I've never mentioned what I own or have before but when people are implying I'm broke and jealous of 2012 I need to defend myself. It's laughable to suggest that. I have no reason to lie.

Also I've never suggested to anyone individual NOT to wait. I've said of you needed your tools & your pc/current computer broke down you wouldnt be waiting. I like to be in control in my life not letting material things control me.

As for the other reply about boasting on Internet funny how you don't question the guy that said in finding it hard cos I can't afford the 2012.

Some of you might worship Apple, I don't I like their products as the work I do makes it seamless when using those products. I certàintly wouldn't let them hold me to ransom each year that's for sure. Now if you have nothing to say i'll suggest keeping your 2 cents worth to yourself or reading my post correctły before talking nonsense. Cheers
 
Confuzzzed said:
Macs don't depreciate as much or as fast as PCs. So unless he planned to sell his machine within, say, 2 years, the model makes no difference as long as it satisfied all the needs which made the OP purchase the machine in the first place. And anyhow, what if apple decided to take away the optical drive for the new machine? If you were reliant on one, you would have to go buy a refurb instead...

But ultimatelybthere's no right answer. You are on here, feeling some remorse, I suspect you know what you want to do already but can't decide how long you would have to be witnout a machine until the refresh. My guess would be 3rd week in May to middle of June

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That's crap. His Mac will give him years of pleasurable computing regardless of when the refresh comes out. It's not as if the refresh will introduce a revolutionary new aspect anyway. It's just a new processor with 12-15% uplift in real world performance that MOST people don't need and will never use anyway
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Johnny went into the shop and bought himself some oranges. For his money he was able to get 10 oranges. He only wanted 1 so he had more than he needed.

Johnny found out that he could bring his oranges back to the shop and get a refund. If he waited another couple of weeks he could get 12 oranges for the same money.

FACT : OP will get more for the same money if he returns and holds out until the refresh.

If the OP doesn't want more for the same money then he should hold onto his 2011 iMac.
 
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News just in, your currently purchased iMac will stop working when the "refresh" (very popular word in this thread) happens in two months or is it three months, hang on, let me check the release date...........oh............

Enjoy it. Its awesome.
 
DavoteK said:
News just in, your currently purchased iMac will stop working when the "refresh" (very popular word in this thread) happens in two months or is it three months, hang on, let me check the release date...........oh............

Enjoy it. Its awesome.
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The last time Apple put out a release date for hardware before you could buy it was, umm.. umm... umm.. I can't think of one. Pretty sure even the first day Steve took an MBA out of a manilla envelope on stage, you could buy them in stores. So suggesting that he wait for a release date is rather silly.

We know that every component that Apple needs to update an iMac is available. We also know that it sells well enough that Apple wouldn't want to discontinue it. So as certain as you wake up each day, there will be a new iMac in a small number of weeks.
 
forty2j said:
The last time Apple put out a release date for hardware before you could buy it was, umm.. umm... umm.. I can't think of one. Pretty sure even the first day Steve took an MBA out of a manilla envelope on stage, you could buy them in stores. So suggesting that he wait for a release date is rather silly.

We know that every component that Apple needs to update an iMac is available. We also know that it sells well enough that Apple wouldn't want to discontinue it. So as certain as you wake up each day, there will be a new iMac in a small number of weeks.
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First off, proof on the "small number of weeks".

Second off, irrelevant. He's got one. Its awesome. Enjoy it.
 
beosound3200 said:
apple and actual facts? i see you havent been here long... you'll learn :D
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Hahah

forty2j said:
There are exactly as many facts as the last 20 Apple hardware releases.

This is why there are so many "rumor" sites that help put the pieces together.
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There's putting the pieces together and then there's people acting like they are "in the know" or trying to come across like Apple consultants or whatever. Quite laughable, but whatever gets people off :D
 
NextGenApple said:
Wasn't going to respond to this thread but feel like I have to. The haters now cone out the wood work. I've never mentioned what I own or have before but when people are implying I'm broke and jealous of 2012 I need to defend myself. It's laughable to suggest that. I have no reason to lie.

Also I've never suggested to anyone individual NOT to wait. I've said of you needed your tools & your pc/current computer broke down you wouldnt be waiting. I like to be in control in my life not letting material things control me.

As for the other reply about boasting on Internet funny how you don't question the guy that said in finding it hard cos I can't afford the 2012.

Some of you might worship Apple, I don't I like their products as the work I do makes it seamless when using those products. I certàintly wouldn't let them hold me to ransom each year that's for sure. Now if you have nothing to say i'll suggest keeping your 2 cents worth to yourself or reading my post correctły before talking nonsense. Cheers
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It's got nothing to do with "worshipping" Apple though, nor does it have anything to do with being "held to ransom" every year... It's to do with getting the most bang for your buck.

We're talking about buying a machine that (most likely) will be being used for the next 3, 4, 5 years. Of COURSE it makes sense to wait until after the (relatively imminent) refresh to buy.

Your arrogant, baseless assumption that "most of these people" just use their Macs for Facebook and Twitter is what has got my back up, and I'd imagine that's (at least part of) why others have reacted less than favourably towards you.

Not to mention the fact that you're now claiming to be super-wealthy (anyone who could comfortably buy a Mac every day [approx a half million dollars or more a year] would have to fall into this category) and an ultra-high-end user, despite not seeming to comprehend that there are reasons over and above a processor-bump why someone would want to wait a few weeks to get more for their money.

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DavoteK said:
There's putting the pieces together and then there's people acting like they are "in the know" or trying to come across like Apple consultants or whatever. Quite laughable, but whatever gets people off :D
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Don't think anyone's trying to act like that tbh mate. The OP asked for advice on whether he should return his iMac and wait for the refresh.

People have therefore been giving the advice he asked for, based on the information available. That information implies that there will be new iMacs coming in RELATIVELY short order (relative to the lifespan of the machine), and the prudent thing to do might well be to return it (if he can manage without for a little while) and get better value for money after the refresh.
 
I say he should return the one he has and order a BTO version with ssd drive only. Pay extra for it now. The ssd will eliminate the lag he was seeing and he'll have a computer that will be blazingly fast.

I'm not sure the supposed changes that MAY come out with new iMacs will be that significant, but I can say that ditching the hdd for ssd will be a significant improvement in the everyday operation of the iMac.

SSD's are the way of the future and we'll all be talking about the days when we thought 7200 rpm was fast for a hdd. And don't bother telling me the cost per gb for ssd is high - I realize that compared to what hdd's are, ssd's are expensive, but as they gain more traction in the market and hdd manufacturers switch over to producing ssd's, the price will drop.
 
TopToffee said:
Don't think anyone's trying to act like that tbh mate. The OP asked for advice on whether he should return his iMac and wait for the refresh.

People have therefore been giving the advice he asked for, based on the information available. That information implies that there will be new iMacs coming in RELATIVELY short order (relative to the lifespan of the machine), and the prudent thing to do might well be to return it (if he can manage without for a little while) and get better value for money after the refresh.
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Put across like that, great. Others throw out info stating that its definitely in two to three weeks and so on.

Basically there's a need to underline speculation and conjecture stating that it is just that.
 
TopToffee said:
It's got nothing to do with "worshipping" Apple though, nor does it have anything to do with being "held to ransom" every year... It's to do with getting the most bang for your buck.

We're talking about buying a machine that (most likely) will be being used for the next 3, 4, 5 years. Of COURSE it makes sense to wait until after the (relatively imminent) refresh to buy.

Your arrogant, baseless assumption that "most of these people" just use their Macs for Facebook and Twitter is what has got my back up, and I'd imagine that's (at least part of) why others have reacted less than favourably towards you.

Not to mention the fact that you're now claiming to be super-wealthy (anyone who could comfortably buy a Mac every day [approx a half million dollars or more a year] would have to fall into this category) and an ultra-high-end user, despite not seeming to comprehend that there are reasons over and above a processor-bump why someone would want to wait a few weeks to get more for their money.

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Don't think anyone's trying to act like that tbh mate. The OP asked for advice on whether he should return his iMac and wait for the refresh.

People have therefore been giving the advice he asked for, based on the information available. That information implies that there will be new iMacs coming in RELATIVELY short order (relative to the lifespan of the machine), and the prudent thing to do might well be to return it (if he can manage without for a little while) and get better value for money after the refresh.
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Get it straight no one has come at me on the FB/Twitter/Internet use issue. Only you. It's a free World wide web I can say what I like.

Also who told you he will get better bang for his money? Know one knows what Apple will do. It might lose CD drive which could be bad for some. As others have said to many people acting like Apple consultants
 
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NextGenApple said:
Also who told you he will get better bang for his money? Know one knows what Apple will do. It might lose CD drive which could be bad for some. As others have said to many people acting like Apple consultants
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He'll get better bang for his buck in that (as per Apple's usual MO) the price points are likely to be the same, while the overall value of the contained hardware will be higher (at today's prices) than the current models.

I *really* didn't think it was all the complicated.
 
TopToffee said:
People have therefore been giving the advice he asked for, based on the information available. That information implies that there will be new iMacs coming in RELATIVELY short order (relative to the lifespan of the machine), and the prudent thing to do might well be to return it (if he can manage without for a little while) and get better value for money after the refresh.
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Ha ha! What are you up to lar? Don't cha know most people on here are AAPL share holders and stand to benefit by having people not return products?
 
TopToffee said:
He'll get better bang for his buck in that (as per Apple's usual MO) the price points are likely to be the same, while the overall value of the contained hardware will be higher (at today's prices) than the current models.

I *really* didn't think it was all the complicated.
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So A high end current iMac with SSD or high end 21.5 will be poor or not hold value compared to a 2012 iMac. I can't debate with you no more.
 
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The questions has always been how long should you wait, given Apple's relatively consistently yearly renewal cycle? And the answer has always been it depends on that person's needs and wants. What is the cost/benefit? If you cannot afford to wait, by all means get one now if it means reduced productivity and efficiency. If you want more bang for your buck, and your WANT to have the latest and greatest trumps everything else, and you can afford to wait...then wait.

As for timeline how long you can afford to wait, well that you have to answer yourself.

Myself I jumped on the 2011 soon as it came out. Spec'd it out as best as I can, according to what I wanted at the time and what my budget was. My iMac is not like my iPhone or iPad, I don't want to sell it and buy it every year. I plan on keeping it for a good 4 years at least, if not until it breaks on me. So knowing that it was definitely worth it for me to have waited for the imminent refresh cycle.
 
jmgregory1 said:
SSD's are the way of the future and we'll all be talking about the days when we thought 7200 rpm was fast for a hdd. And don't bother telling me the cost per gb for ssd is high - I realize that compared to what hdd's are, ssd's are expensive, but as they gain more traction in the market and hdd manufacturers switch over to producing ssd's, the price will drop.
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Good point. A long while back, I bought a 450MB HDD for $450 ($1/MB) and 4MB of RAM for $320 ($80/MB). If the price vs capacity of two technologies still present in my 2009 iMac hadn't dropped, my computer would have cost me about $1,320,000 :eek: (1TB HDD @ $1/MB + 4GB RAM @ $80/MB).
 
NextGenApple said:
So A high end current iMac with SSD or high end 21.5 will be poor or not hold value compared to a 2012 iMac. I can't debate with you no more.
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No, because you don't debate with what I said, you debate with what you WISH i'd said.

I said the VALUE of components contained in the 2012 iMac will be higher that the current VALUE of the components in a similar RRP'd 2011 model. For example, on the day of release of the 2012 model, a SB processor will cost less than an IB processor... the 2012's GPU will have a higher market value than the 2011's GPU.

Nowhere did I mention anything about the current components being poor, nor did I mention not holding their value as well (although you're actually right, a 2011 iMac bought now will depreciate faster than a 2012 iMac bought in (for example) a month)... because the resale value of a 2011 model will drop markedly once the 2012 model is released.
 
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