Just bought my first ever mac laptop rMbp

[Interstella5555]

What?

A pirated movie rip - which strips out everything except the main movie - happens to be more enjoyable than the legal version, which forces you to sit through half an hour of FBI warnings and unskippable movie trailers.

Since when does buying legal do you any good? Rootkits - you've heard of them, right? Rootkits on a Mac - hah, good luck getting rid of it, short of reformatting your Mac! Some CDs of yesteryear require installing an app to access hidden songs, how's that for customer treatment?

If shutting down MU is such a good thing, why haven't we also shut down the internet itself? The little things we use and take for granted every day can be used for piracy, why aren't we banning these things? Do you even realize the terrible contradiction in your post?

MU actually turned out to be the best place to grab porn. Very fast, very little BS, does not require dedicated apps, can be used for things other than pirated content, etc.

Can the iCloud do any of that? I think not.

Tell me, just what sort of controls do you have with your data in the iCloud? Apple can shut it down tomorrow without the courtesy of a reach around. Trying to get the data off? Sorry, it's Apple, you gotta pay first to get your stuff back.

If you think none of these will ever happen to the iCloud, you are delusional.

Straws

You're grasping at them.

You're also beyond help if you inherently can't see the difference between MU and iCloud. It's like saying a car and a skateboard are the same thing because they have 4 wheels and can transport you.

 

[gentlefury]

What?

A pirated movie rip - which strips out everything except the main movie - happens to be more enjoyable than the legal version, which forces you to sit through half an hour of FBI warnings and unskippable movie trailers.

Since when does buying legal do you any good? Rootkits - you've heard of them, right? Rootkits on a Mac - hah, good luck getting rid of it, short of reformatting your Mac! Some CDs of yesteryear require installing an app to access hidden songs, how's that for customer treatment?

If shutting down MU is such a good thing, why haven't we also shut down the internet itself? The little things we use and take for granted every day can be used for piracy, why aren't we banning these things? Do you even realize the terrible contradiction in your post?

MU actually turned out to be the best place to grab porn. Very fast, very little BS, does not require dedicated apps, can be used for things other than pirated content, etc.

Can the iCloud do any of that? I think not.

Tell me, just what sort of controls do you have with your data in the iCloud? Apple can shut it down tomorrow without the courtesy of a reach around. Trying to get the data off? Sorry, it's Apple, you gotta pay first to get your stuff back.

If you think none of these will ever happen to the iCloud, you are delusional.

OK, this response proves you are just trolling and there is nothing to see here. This was not a discussion on the virtues or merits of piracy or anti-piracy. You asked what the difference was and why iCloud would not be raided and shut down by the FBI, I responded in turn. Please stop hijacking this thread with your garbage.

 

[jcpb]

You're also beyond help if you inherently can't see the difference between MU and iCloud. It's like saying a car and a skateboard are the same thing because they have 4 wheels and can transport you.

If you can't see the difference, there's a bridge in Alaska I'd love to sell to you.

Once you upload your data to the iCloud, you lose control over it, that's all it matters.

to gentlefury: it's not trolling at all. It's happened before and it can happen again.

 

[gentlefury]

If you can't see the difference, there's a bridge in Alaska I'd love to sell to you.

Once you upload your data to the iCloud, you lose control over it, that's all it matters.

to gentlefury: it's not trolling at all. It's happened before and it can happen again.

wow, again, do some reasearch..you will feel quite foolish.

 

[jcpb]

I'm done with this thread, but...

wow, again, do some reasearch..you will feel quite foolish.

Paranoid > foolish. You belong in the latter.

 

[gentlefury]

I'm done with this thread, but...

Paranoid > foolish. You belong in the latter.

Unfounded paranoia = insanity

glad to see you go.

 

[Interstella5555]

If you can't see the difference, there's a bridge in Alaska I'd love to sell to you.

Once you upload your data to the iCloud, you lose control over it, that's all it matters.

to gentlefury: it's not trolling at all. It's happened before and it can happen again.

buddy, I lived in Alaska, I've spent more federal money on non-existent bridges than you could imagine.
Let's take a look at your "arguments"

I don't use cloud storage for important things simply because it's in somewhere I have no control over. What happened to MegaUpload can very well happen to the iCloud.

What exactly are you saying here, that law enforcement will take down iCloud? That's just not going to happen.

A pirated movie rip - which strips out everything except the main movie - happens to be more enjoyable than the legal version, which forces you to sit through half an hour of FBI warnings and unskippable movie trailers.

Uhhh, ok, sure, though no movie I've purchased in the last 5 years has unskippable previews, and this isn't really related to what you're talking about anyway. And seriously, who doesn't like previews any way?

Since when does buying legal do you any good? Rootkits - you've heard of them, right? Rootkits on a Mac - hah, good luck getting rid of it, short of reformatting your Mac! Some CDs of yesteryear require installing an app to access hidden songs, how's that for customer treatment?

So...rookits. Awesome. Buying digital music easily remedies this. Maybe you want to talk about how terrible video games are and use Hot Coffee as an example.

Tell me, just what sort of controls do you have with your data in the iCloud? Apple can shut it down tomorrow without the courtesy of a reach around. Trying to get the data off? Sorry, it's Apple, you gotta pay first to get your stuff back.

Awww, cute, a little sexual humor to hammer your point home. Also a little unsure of this situation..Apple shuts down iCloud and then reopens it, forcing you to pay to access content? Surely you wouldn't be foolish enough to have a singular, cloud based backup for your data (which I guess is porn and pirated movies?) Because that's what control is, iCloud isn't designed to be your only storage space for your data, if it is for you, then I guess that's your choice. I love alarmists will little to no understanding about what they're ranting about.

 

[gentlefury]

Tell me, just what sort of controls do you have with your data in the iCloud? Apple can shut it down tomorrow without the courtesy of a reach around. Trying to get the data off? Sorry, it's Apple, you gotta pay first to get your stuff back.

The hillarious part about this statement is that you have no clue how iCloud works and yet are commenting. iCloud SYNCS DATA...it doesn't store it! All of your data is safe and sound on your local disk.

 

[GGJstudios]

iCloud SYNCS DATA...it doesn't store it!

Yes, it does.

Apple - iCloud - Your content. On all your devices.

iCloud does more than just store your content.

iCloud stores all the stuff you can’t live without

When you sign up for iCloud, you automatically get 5GB of free storage. And that’s plenty of room, because of the way iCloud stores your content.

 

[Interstella5555]

The hillarious part about this statement is that you have no clue how iCloud works and yet are commenting. iCloud SYNCS DATA...it doesn't store it! All of your data is safe and sound on your local disk.

Well, not technically true, iCloud DOES store data, but just like you wouldn't give a friend keys to your place without having a set yourself it would be incredibly...unwise to trust all your storage to the cloud.

 

[gentlefury]

wow, ok, I didn't say something in 100% the accurate wording. The point of iCloud isn't to store and share files. It is to sync your devices. Pretty simple. Lets all continue this pointless arguement.

 

[jcpb]

The hillarious part about this statement is that you have no clue how iCloud works and yet are commenting. iCloud SYNCS DATA...it doesn't store it! All of your data is safe and sound on your local disk.

When the head of NSA claims it's not spying on you...

you better be worried.

That, kid, is called paranoia. What you said is full of foolish.

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What exactly are you saying here, that law enforcement will take down iCloud? That's just not going to happen.

Try saying that again.

What makes you think it wouldn't happen?

Uhhh, ok, sure, though no movie I've purchased in the last 5 years has unskippable previews, and this isn't really related to what you're talking about anyway. And seriously, who doesn't like previews any way?

Lots of people.

So...rookits. Awesome. Buying digital music easily remedies this. Maybe you want to talk about how terrible video games are and use Hot Coffee as an example.

Buying digital music means DRM. Apple said it's going DRM free on its music... here's an ugly truth for you: it never truly abandoned DRM.

Awww, cute, a little sexual humor to hammer your point home. Also a little unsure of this situation..Apple shuts down iCloud and then reopens it, forcing you to pay to access content? Surely you wouldn't be foolish enough to have a singular, cloud based backup for your data (which I guess is porn and pirated movies?) Because that's what control is, iCloud isn't designed to be your only storage space for your data, if it is for you, then I guess that's your choice. I love alarmists will little to no understanding about what they're ranting about.

When an official says "everything is going to be alright", that's when you run.

 

[stevelam]

Hey everyone, don't use iCloud! 'Dem governments gonna shut it down! This thread has turned from a casual informational source to an intellectual embarrassment thanks to jcpb.