Just finished repairing a G3 Walstreet

[weckart]

Well tried about 6 different image files and all say the same thing Will only work from Original CD. I registered at OS9 lives but haven't been approved yet

Gary

Never had this problem ever and have booted and installed from CF numerous times. How did you create the bootable CF?

 

[Garyed055]

Never had this problem ever and have booted and installed from CF numerous times. How did you create the bootable CF?

I downloaded the image file and since I didn't know how to use Toast to create the CF I used the utilities program to 1st create the CD then used utilities to make the .DMG file and then used Etcher to make the CF

Gary

 

[weckart]

I downloaded the image file and since I didn't know how to use Toast to create the CF I used the utilities program to 1st create the CD then used utilities to make the .DMG file and then used Etcher to make the CF

Gary

Try this. Install Toast and mount the image with it. The mounted image should appear in Finder as a CD disc. Format a CF card as HFS+. Drag all of the files from the mounted CD image onto your CF card. Done.

 

[Garyed055]

Try this. Install Toast and mount the image with it. The mounted image should appear in Finder as a CD disc. Format a CF card as HFS+. Drag all of the files from the mounted CD image onto your CF card. Done.

Hi

I installed toast Mounted the image copied the files over to the CF card and the laptop just kicks the PCMCIA card out without booting

Gary

 

[weckart]

Did you format the CF card as HFS+? One thing that may be happening is the System Folder is becoming unblessed. After copying the files over, open the System Folder on the CF card and drag the Finder icon onto your desktop. Drag it back into the System Folder and close and try the CF card again.

 

[Garyed055]

Did you format the CF card as HFS+? One thing that may be happening is the System Folder is becoming unblessed. After copying the files over, open the System Folder on the CF card and drag the Finder icon onto your desktop. Drag it back into the System Folder and close and try the CF card again.

Finally got it. Downloaded the 9.2.2 universal from OS9 lives and it worked like a charm. only problem now is the desktop is set to 1024x768 and I can't remember how to change it

Gary

 

[weckart]

Finally got it. Downloaded the 9.2.2 universal from OS9 lives and it worked like a charm. only problem now is the desktop is set to 1024x768 and I can't remember how to change it

Gary

That is the correct resolution for a Wallstreet unless you are unlucky to have a Mainstreet. Screen resolution can be changed via the Monitors entry in Control Panels (Apple Icon>Control Panels>Monitors).

 

[Garyed055]

That is the correct resolution for a Wallstreet unless you are unlucky to have a Mainstreet. Screen resolution can be changed via the Monitors entry in Control Panels (Apple Icon>Control Panels>Monitors).

Problem is though now there is about 2 inches of desktop om the right and bottom thats off the screen and I don't know how to fix it

Gary

 

[weckart]

What exactly is your Wallstreet model? Sounds like you have an 800x600 screen with 1024x768 panning.

 

[Garyed055]

What exactly is your Wallstreet model? Sounds like you have an 800x600 screen with 1024x768 panning.

i'm m afraid its a Frankenstein, 12 inch display from one broken wallstreet a system board from another

Gary

 

[weckart]

Set the resolution to 800x600. I had a similar Frankenmac with a PDQ I bought. It worked but I missed the real estate and salvaged a 14" display from a dead PDQ that went cheap on eBay.

 

[Garyed055]

Set the resolution to 800x600. I had a similar Frankenmac with a PDQ I bought. It worked but I missed the real estate and salvaged a 14" display from a dead PDQ that went cheap on eBay.

in the available resolutions it only lists the 1024x768 no 800x600 unless i attach an external monitor

Gary

 

[AphoticD]

in the available resolutions it only lists the 1024x768 no 800x600 unless i attach an external monitor

Gary

Well done Gary, good to hear the Wallstreet is finally up and running.


Here’s a solution for inaccessible display resolutions from another thread;

SwitchRes / SwitchResX

Have you tried custom resolutions with SwitchRes (Mac OS 9) or SwitchResX (Mac OS X)??

Also, I imagine Open Firmware could be used to override the default resolution. Maybe an OF magician like @LightBulbFun could answer that.

 

[Garyed055]

Well done Gary, good to hear the Wallstreet is finally up and running.


Here’s a solution for inaccessible display resolutions from another thread;



Also, I imagine Open Firmware could be used to override the default resolution. Maybe an OF magician like @LightBulbFun could answer that.

thanks my friend

The switchres didn't work all resolutions on the switchres except the 1024X768 is red x'd out none would work

Gary

 

[weckart]

thanks my friend

The switchres didn't work all resolutions on the switchres except the 1024X768 is red x'd out none would work

Gary

Sounds very odd. The Wallstreet should pick up the EDID from the display automatically and since it is a recognised display, should also show the correct compatible resolutions. Possibly a driver issue? Might be worth looking up the latest drivers for your ATI card and installing or rolling back the one from the Universal.iso. This site has all the Classic mac ATI drivers.

https://gona.mactar.hu/ATI_Mac/


I have some command trickery to force an XGA resolution via Open Firmware but not the other way round. If you want to experiment AYOR:

Start up your Wallstreet with Cmd+Opt+O+F

at the prompt

nvedit
dev /
3 encode-int " display-family" property

Enter Ctrl+C to exit the NVRAM editor then type:

nvstore
setenv use-nvramrc? true
reset-all



3 encode-int forces a resolution of 1024x768. 2 encode-int gives you 1152x768. I have no other confirmed parameters but if you want to try higher or lower numbers be my guest. There is always the risk of damaging some component or other but most likely it will just give you a garbled screen. Zapping the pram should restore matters to where you are now.

 

[Garyed055]

Hey guys

Thank you for all your help but I've remembered each time I booted this machine with different disks even when they didn't work the initial OS icon was displaced to the right and down. Its a hardware problem of some kind

Gary

 

[LightBulbFun]

Sounds very odd. The Wallstreet should pick up the EDID from the display automatically and since it is a recognised display, should also show the correct compatible resolutions. Possibly a driver issue? Might be worth looking up the latest drivers for your ATI card and installing or rolling back the one from the Universal.iso. This site has all the Classic mac ATI drivers.

https://gona.mactar.hu/ATI_Mac/


I have some command trickery to force an XGA resolution via Open Firmware but not the other way round. If you want to experiment AYOR:

Start up your Wallstreet with Cmd+Opt+O+F

at the prompt

nvedit
dev /
3 encode-int " display-family" property

Enter Ctrl+C to exit the NVRAM editor then type:

nvstore
setenv use-nvramrc? true
reset-all



3 encode-int forces a resolution of 1024x768. 2 encode-int gives you 1152x768. I have no other confirmed parameters but if you want to try higher or lower numbers be my guest. There is always the risk of damaging some component or other but most likely it will just give you a garbled screen. Zapping the pram should restore matters to where you are now.

AFAIK the display-family property thing is just something Rage 128 Macs have and is sadly not applicable to OWR macs AFAIK

(doing the 3 encode-int " display-family" etc on my Pismo actually forces OF to run at 800x600 and changes the Rage 128s properties, go figure that one out, but it does let OS X Server 1.2v3 boot all the way to the desktop )

speaking of tho to the OP since ya swapped the LCDs have you done a PRAM reset?

 

[Garyed055]

speaking of tho to the OP since ya swapped the LCDs have you done a PRAM reset?[/QUOTE]

No i haven't reset the pram yet

Gary

 

[Garyed055]

Reset the PRAM three times no change

Gary

 

[Garyed055]

It's great to revive any old Mac, but an old tank like the Wallstreet, Well done! They are solid little Macs. I have a PDQ with dual batteries installed and boy is it a lead weight!

Thanks

Reviving the old fella was a labor of love. It was a gift from a very special lady. Never had more then 1 battery in it though.

Gary