I'd like to think that I got lucky on my white macbook I purchased from Apple. Their site shows a macbook w/ 2GB RAM for $849, however I received mine with 4GB of RAM. I was quite surprised and am very thankful. This is my first apple laptop and also my first mac with Lion (I have a 2008 iMac w/ snow leopard). Anyone who has concerns about buying a refurbished unit? Don't be. This laptop came in excellent condition and other than coming in a standard shipping box, I would not be able to tell if this was brand new or refurbished. It came with everything a new mac would come with. I will wait out on buying a SSD to allow some prices to come down. Thank you Apple for the extra 2GB RAM.