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The battery expanded so much that the trackpad barely responded at all. I had to press it fairly hard to even register a button-press. And then the haptic-click felt about 1/3rd of when it was new.

Everything works great right now, but from what I've been reading, they replaced everything with the same exact parts. So I should expect the same problems to pop up again.

I am going to wait to see what Apple releases as far as Mac goes and then I'll sell this MBP and hope they solved the problems with the newer models.
 
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The battery expanded so much that the trackpad barely responded at all. I had to press it fairly hard to even register a button-press. And then the haptic-click felt about 1/3rd of when it was new.

Everything works great right now, but from what I've been reading, they replaced everything with the same exact parts. So I should expect the same problems to pop up again.

I am going to wait to see what Apple releases as far as Mac goes and then I'll sell this MBP and hope they solved the problems with the newer models.


Pretty sure it’s practically inevitable with lithium battieres.
 
Pretty sure it’s practically inevitable with lithium battieres.
I don't think so, my 2012 lasted a long time and it's still a rarity on hearing about expanding batteries. Maybe if the battery is 10 years old, but but so far it seems to be the exception not the norm.
 
I don't think so, my 2012 lasted a long time and it's still a rarity on hearing about expanding batteries. Maybe if the battery is 10 years old, but but so far it seems to be the exception not the norm.

We tend to hear about the extreme cases, where the battery has swollen so badly it has distorted the chassis of the phone/macbook, but we don't tend to hear about the cases where the battery has swollen and is failing and is replaced by Apple but without the user being aware of the specifics (other than degraded battery).

In addition, users on the forum tend to be more likely to frequently replace their devices.

My parents both have 2012 MacBooks (Air and Pro) and AFAIK they're still doing ok on their original batteries, although they're not likely to know until their laptops start alerting them to an issue.

Ultimately though, the gas build up is caused by a chemical reaction that occurs when the batteries are charged and discharged. Different conditions can exacerbate the condition, but I think the build up occurs regardless over time. So I agree, there is a time quantifier in there. But it's not like Apple is going to release a MacBook with a li-ion battery that doesn't ever swell. I could be wrong though.
 
Pretty sure it’s practically inevitable with lithium battieres.

Don't agree. My 2010 MBP still runs great with original battery installed, 150 cycles. As a matter of fact, I've never had one single lithium battery expand or blow up or even go dead on me over the years.
 
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Don't agree. My 2010 MBP still runs great with original battery installed, 150 cycles. As a matter of fact, I've never had one single lithium battery expand or blow up or even go dead on me over the years.
I hope not. It pretty much ruined my trackpad. The replacement feels like brand new, of course.

I hope I'm wrong too. I've had a bunch of Lithium batteries and none of them have killed me or burned down everything I cared about, but I've had my iPhone 5S break open because of the battery. And on some of my lesser used batteries I've seen swelling. I guess the way that I look at it is that in high use devices, it's a given. Not in all batteries, I should have worded that differently. But where there is a fairly heavy cycling particularly with irregular charging intervals like with a heavily used device, I expect it to happen, just based on what I've read abut the chemistry.

Again, hopefully I'm wrong. At the same time, I think three years out of the battery in a heavily used device is a good return, anything more than that is borrowed time in my opinion. I completely expect to be replacing either my MBPro battery, or the entire MBPro at 3 years. Hopefully just the battery. :D The 2018's look good though, niggling issues aside, which I'm sure they'll get figured out. I don't even use my battery that heavily.

It's also possible my expectations are too low. I base them on the MBPro lasting up to 6 years, at a stretch, and so a replacement at one point, perhaps the midpoint, is a small price to pay. US$199 into 6 years is $2.76/month if amortized. But then, my parents are both on 5 year old devices and original batteries so perhaps I am being too pessimistic.

I'm currently at 128 cycles since April 2016 and 92% battery life. I'm not that heavy on the battery but I don't see it lasting 6 years. I still consider the battery a consumable.
 
Just been searching for information about MacBook Pro batteries swelling and found this thread. I have a 15" Mid 2015 model that I bought direct from Apple in August 2016.

About a month ago, I noticed that it would rock slightly while on my desk ( the only place I use it ) At first I put it down to my bad craftsmanship - I build my desk myself and figured it might have warped slightly after 15 years! ) But after the rocking started to get worse I checked on some other flat surfaces and it seems that the base of the MacBook is beginning to bulge - roughly under where the trackpad is located.

Checked the battery information 33 Cycles and Normal condition.

Guess a trip to the Apple store is in order?
 
lambertjohn wrote:
"Don't agree. My 2010 MBP still runs great with original battery installed, 150 cycles"

I agree, regarding the 2010 MacBooks.

I have a 2010 MacBook Pro, and my sister has a 2010 white MacBook.
Both still have the factory-installed batteries.
Neither battery has expanded in size, and both still work "well enough" (even with many charging cycles on them).

Those 2010 models were well-made machines.
 
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