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Mike Boreham

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I used to have a 12" Macbook (2016 M5 512GB) for nearly two years, but decided I had to have more ports, and traded it for a 13" MBP TB about fifteen months ago.

Things have changed (see below), and I have always missed the form factor of the 12" MB, so I have just bought a used base model 2017 MB from CEX in UK, for £660. Quite pleased with this price. The machine is mint (no patina on keys which is a sure sign), with only 14 cycles, 98% health on the battery. It is more than a year old so I can't get Applecare, but I have CEX 2 year warranty and the Apple keyboard replacement programme.

CEX is a strange outfit. They have come a long way since I got an original version iPhone from them a decade ago. Much more trustworthy and reliable, although I still feel like a fish out water in their stores. Nearly all my Apple equipment has come from them, and I have traded a lot in as well. If you buy on line you have 14 day return to a local store if not happy. Some of their pricing is silly high on very recently released equipment, but after that it is sometimes inconsistent, and there are good bargains to be had.

I won't mind if a new MacBook is released soon (in fact I hope very much it is) as it will be much more than I would be prepared to pay until they start showing up used.

Things that have changed since I switched from the MB to the MBP.....
1. I now have an iPad 12.9 (3rd gen) 512GB which has all movies and photos on, so don't need to connect much to the MB.
2. I can use the 12.9" iPad as a portable second monitor for the MB.

Note to EugW.....you always said there was a noticeable improvement in the keyboard in the 2017 model, which I couldn't really tell from a quick tests on the keyboards in stores, but now that I have one I do agree.
 
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Fantastic. I'm about to buy a 2015 MBAir, low cycle count (78)/4gb/256gb SSD for $220 us dollars. I had a MacBook Unibody for years then went back to Mac Minis but I miss the portability of the MacBooks. Congratulations and enjoy your new Macbook 12"!
 
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I used to have a 12" Macbook (2016 M5 512GB) for nearly two years, but decided I had to have more ports, and traded it for a 13" MBP TB about fifteen months ago.

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2. I can use the 12.9" iPad as a portable second monitor for the MB.

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I am wondering how you implement the iPad as a second monitor for the MB, and how well it works for you if you've done it yet.
 
I am wondering how you implement the iPad as a second monitor for the MB, and how well it works for you if you've done it yet.

Install Duet Display on the iPad (£9.99) and also on the Mac or PC (free), connect with a USB-C to USB-C cable, and follow the instructions.

I have so far only done it once and it seemed to work very well. It is not a set up I will use at home (where I am now) as I have the 27" iMac, but will use more when away from base which I am quite frequently. I am away a lot over the next few weeks.
 
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Note to EugW.....you always said there was a noticeable improvement in the keyboard in the 2017 model, which I couldn't really tell from a quick tests on the keyboards in stores, but now that I have one I do agree.
I noticed the difference immediately, but yeah, YMMV.

Apple still needs to work on the trackpad feel though. After two years, I'm still not enamoured with the trackpad feel on the 2017 MacBook.

Install Duet Display on the iPad (£9.99) and also on the Mac or PC (free), connect with a USB-C to USB-C cable, and follow the instructions.

I have so far only done it once and it seemed to work very well. It is not a set up I will use at home (where I am now) as I have the 27" iMac, but will use more when away from base which I am quite frequently. I am away a lot over the next few weeks.
I am waiting for macOS 10.15 and Sidecar:

https://www.theverge.com/2019/4/16/18407449/apple-ipad-external-display-support-macos-10-15-rumor

Hopefully that will negate the need for Duet Display.
 
I used to have a 12" Macbook (2016 M5 512GB) for nearly two years, but decided I had to have more ports, and traded it for a 13" MBP TB about fifteen months ago.

Things have changed (see below), and I have always missed the form factor of the 12" MB, so I have just bought a used base model 2017 MB from CEX in UK, for £660. Quite pleased with this price. The machine is mint (no patina on keys which is a sure sign), with only 14 cycles, 98% health on the battery. It is more than a year old so I can't get Applecare, but I have CEX 2 year warranty and the Apple keyboard replacement programme.

CEX is a strange outfit. They have come a long way since I got an original version iPhone from them a decade ago. Much more trustworthy and reliable, although I still feel like a fish out water in their stores. Nearly all my Apple equipment has come from them, and I have traded a lot in as well. If you buy on line you have 14 day return to a local store if not happy. Some of their pricing is silly high on very recently released equipment, but after that it is sometimes inconsistent, and there are good bargains to be had.

I won't mind if a new MacBook is released soon (in fact I hope very much it is) as it will be much more than I would be prepared to pay until they start showing up used.

Things that have changed since I switched from the MB to the MBP.....
1. I now have an iPad 12.9 (3rd gen) 512GB which has all movies and photos on, so don't need to connect much to the MB.
2. I can use the 12.9" iPad as a portable second monitor for the MB.

Note to EugW.....you always said there was a noticeable improvement in the keyboard in the 2017 model, which I couldn't really tell from a quick tests on the keyboards in stores, but now that I have one I do agree.

Two years and no keyboard issues??
 
I really like the form factor, my 2017 started acting up after 6 months day to day use so sold it on to someone who didn’t mind the registered double presses.

If Apple changed the headphone port to USB-C (So it had 2 ports) and it had the 2019 keyboard then I’ll get one again.
 
Note to EugW.....you always said there was a noticeable improvement in the keyboard in the 2017 model, which I couldn't really tell from a quick tests on the keyboards in stores, but now that I have one I do agree.
Got a difference experience: yes, the 2017 is different, but not necessarily better imho. With the 2015, you could let your fingers “fly” more smoothly over the keys, whereas the 2017 is a bit more “clickery” and with a less soft keypress sensation, thus somewhat impairing the continuous flow.

For the veterans: It’s a bit similar to the old “Competition Pro” joystick , which felt better with the original metal “tongues” under the fire buttons, compared to the more robust micro switches of later variants.

Differences are slight and surely dependent on personal preference, but I sometimes still miss the 2015 keyboard after more than half a year on the 2017 ... :-/
 
Fantastic. I'm about to buy a 2015 MBAir, low cycle count (78)/4gb/256gb SSD for $220 us dollars. I had a MacBook Unibody for years then went back to Mac Minis but I miss the portability of the MacBooks. Congratulations and enjoy your new Macbook 12"!



is 4gb useable today if you do internet with multiple tabs, office apps, minor photo an video editing?
 
Install Duet Display on the iPad (£9.99) and also on the Mac or PC (free), connect with a USB-C to USB-C cable, and follow the instructions.

I have so far only done it once and it seemed to work very well. It is not a set up I will use at home (where I am now) as I have the 27" iMac, but will use more when away from base which I am quite frequently. I am away a lot over the next few weeks.

Thanks for answering my question. I may try Duet this summer, as I don't think I'll be installing the Catalina beta until closer to its release. I think it would be a nice companion to my 2017 MacBook.
 
I used to have a 12" Macbook (2016 M5 512GB) for nearly two years, but decided I had to have more ports, and traded it for a 13" MBP TB about fifteen months ago.

Things have changed (see below), and I have always missed the form factor of the 12" MB, so I have just bought a used base model 2017 MB from CEX in UK, for £660. Quite pleased with this price. The machine is mint (no patina on keys which is a sure sign), with only 14 cycles, 98% health on the battery. It is more than a year old so I can't get Applecare, but I have CEX 2 year warranty and the Apple keyboard replacement programme.

CEX is a strange outfit. They have come a long way since I got an original version iPhone from them a decade ago. Much more trustworthy and reliable, although I still feel like a fish out water in their stores. Nearly all my Apple equipment has come from them, and I have traded a lot in as well. If you buy on line you have 14 day return to a local store if not happy. Some of their pricing is silly high on very recently released equipment, but after that it is sometimes inconsistent, and there are good bargains to be had.

I won't mind if a new MacBook is released soon (in fact I hope very much it is) as it will be much more than I would be prepared to pay until they start showing up used.

Things that have changed since I switched from the MB to the MBP.....
1. I now have an iPad 12.9 (3rd gen) 512GB which has all movies and photos on, so don't need to connect much to the MB.
2. I can use the 12.9" iPad as a portable second monitor for the MB.

Note to EugW.....you always said there was a noticeable improvement in the keyboard in the 2017 model, which I couldn't really tell from a quick tests on the keyboards in stores, but now that I have one I do agree.

Damn you OP, you got the MacBook 12’’ in my head, picked up a brand new one from the retailer John Lewis on sale for £799 today. I was missing not having Mac OS.
 
Damn you OP, you got the MacBook 12’’ in my head, picked up a brand new one from the retailer John Lewis on sale for £799 today. I was missing not having Mac OS.

Sorry about that! Good price. Didn't know there were new ones that cheap in UK.
 
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