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iphonehype

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Love it. But the weight. Coming from a 13-inch MacBook Pro. Its very heavy. Sometimes I lounge on the sofa with my 13inch and don't have an issue. Having this on my lap, feels like I have an old Dell.

How are you finding the weight? I use it at an angle on my lap and it just drops down because the balance is so off! Meh. May return and hopefully there is a new design next year.

Everything else including the keyboard is so much better!
 

GMShadow

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it's .02 pounds more than the 13" Retina was. Considering the fact that for the first time since the PowerBooks the smaller Pro is in the same class of hardware punch *and* the screen is larger, a little extra weight is worth it.
 
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iphonehype

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it's .02 pounds more than the 13" Retina was. Considering the fact that for the first time since the PowerBooks the smaller Pro is in the same class of hardware punch *and* the screen is larger, a little extra weight is worth it.
Interesting, maybe it's the weight distribution. It feels so much heavier and in the evening I use my MacBook on my lap and this ones stars falling back. I'll give it a few days. Other than that, it's an amazing piece of engineering. Didn't know it had all the ports too which is nice!
 

h.gilbert

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it's .02 pounds more than the 13" Retina was. Considering the fact that for the first time since the PowerBooks the smaller Pro is in the same class of hardware punch *and* the screen is larger, a little extra weight is worth it.

Great but OP didn't have the retina lol. OP's new 14" is half a pound heavier than their old 2020 13" so that's why it feels significantly heavier
 

jerryk

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It is definitely heavier and bulkier. But, the screen is much nicer and the system is much faster, and that it is worth the difference IMHO.
 
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DisraeliGears

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The differences are certainly worth the weight, but honestly its not bad to point out that the 14" MBP is a substantially heftier device from the 13" MBA and MPB.

I've owned a mid 2015 13" MPB (my wife's current device) and an 11" iPad Pro + Keyboard, and I was a bit surprised by the increased size of the 14". You read the stats and whatnot, and it all seems pretty minimal, but my 14" barely fits in my Peak Design bag, and you can definitely feel it's weight while open.
 

TorontoSS

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i know what you mean - it is heavier there is no denying. I came from an Air to the 14 inch pro and I really thought about it because of the weight. Partly because I don't actually need this power - but those speakers and screen were noticeably nicer to me. And I actually got a v v good deal with the 14 inch MBP (I got the 2021 version).

however, I found after two weeks, the 14 inch pro felt fine. It took a whole two weeks to get used to it. But I did.
 
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filmbuff

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I thought the 0.5lbs would be a good tradeoff for the power and larger screen but I agree, it does feel much bulkier and heavier than what I'm used to. Maybe we should have gone with the Air 🤷‍♂️
 

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Great but OP didn't have the retina lol. OP's new 14" is half a pound heavier than their old 2020 13" so that's why it feels significantly heavier
There hasn't been a non-retina MBP since 2012.

I think it's probably the weight distribution, particularly in the lid/display. It's possible that the current batteries weigh less than the previous ones which would push the weight backwards.
 
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jdb8167

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There hasn't been a non-retina MBP since 2012.

I think it's probably the weight distribution, particularly in the lid/display. It's possible that the current batteries weigh less than the previous ones which would push the weight backwards.
The current 13” MacBook Pro weighs 3.0 lbs. the last Intel 13” MacBook Pro weighed 3.1 lbs. The 14” MacBook Pro weighs 3.6 lbs. so no matter what models you are looking at it is at least 1/2 pound (0.23 kg) heavier.
 

TinyMito

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Love it. But the weight. Coming from a 13-inch MacBook Pro. Its very heavy. Sometimes I lounge on the sofa with my 13inch and don't have an issue. Having this on my lap, feels like I have an old Dell.

How are you finding the weight? I use it at an angle on my lap and it just drops down because the balance is so off! Meh. May return and hopefully there is a new design next year.

Everything else including the keyboard is so much better!

Get a big pillow or laptop pillow, having the laptop on my leg and curving my back will end up killing my back.
 

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Love it. But the weight. Coming from a 13-inch MacBook Pro. Its very heavy. Sometimes I lounge on the sofa with my 13inch and don't have an issue. Having this on my lap, feels like I have an old Dell.

How are you finding the weight? I use it at an angle on my lap and it just drops down because the balance is so off! Meh. May return and hopefully there is a new design next year.

Everything else including the keyboard is so much better!
I'm certain that in a couple weeks, you won't notice the weight at all. Then you'll lift a 16" model and wonder how anyone can use such a thing.

But of course, if it still is a problem, there's always the M2 MacBook Air.
 

h.gilbert

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There hasn't been a non-retina MBP since 2012.

I think it's probably the weight distribution, particularly in the lid/display. It's possible that the current batteries weigh less than the previous ones which would push the weight backwards.

Is this because OP said they had a 13" MBP and you automatically took the lack of mention of retina as meaning non-retina? You know they stopped using the retina name around 2015 right?

Anyway if you look at OP's post history it seems they have a 2020, which makes it 3 pounds, so 0.5 pounds heavier than their new machine.

Check your facts before giving incorrect info lol.
 

Mr. Dee

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This is why I think the 15 inch MacBook Air is not gonna be that popular, it’s gonna feel too unwieldy for couch surfing or when you are in bed. The tapered MacBook Air design with a 15 in screen might be the sweet spot. Trust me Apple can do it with all that wasted bezel the Air has.
 
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iphonehype

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Is this because OP said they had a 13" MBP and you automatically took the lack of mention of retina as meaning non-retina? You know they stopped using the retina name around 2015 right?

Anyway if you look at OP's post history it seems they have a 2020, which makes it 3 pounds, so 0.5 pounds heavier than their new machine.

Check your facts before giving incorrect info lol.

Is it really 0.5 heavier than the 2020 MacBook Pro? Tbh I haven’t used that in a few months I’ve been using my company m1 13inch MacBook Pro which I think is 2021….

To the point below of coach surfing

This is why I think the 15 inch MacBook Air is not gonna be that popular, it’s gonna feel too unwieldy for couch surfing or when you are in bed. The tapered MacBook Air design with a 15 in screen might be the sweet spot. Trust me Apple can do it with all that wasted bezel the Air has.

Do you use or anyone use the 14inch on the coach? If you came from a 13inch, how did you find it?

May get the MacBook Air on a refurb until another design or MacBook Pro comes out.

Interestingly, got into bed last night & needed to do some work. I didn’t use the 14inch, I used the intel 13inch….,,
 

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Is this because OP said they had a 13" MBP and you automatically took the lack of mention of retina as meaning non-retina? You know they stopped using the retina name around 2015 right?

Anyway if you look at OP's post history it seems they have a 2020, which makes it 3 pounds, so 0.5 pounds heavier than their new machine.

Check your facts before giving incorrect info lol.
I mean... this is literally why I mentioned Retina.
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Mr. Dee

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Is it really 0.5 heavier than the 2020 MacBook Pro? Tbh I haven’t used that in a few months I’ve been using my company m1 13inch MacBook Pro which I think is 2021….

To the point below of coach surfing



Do you use or anyone use the 14inch on the coach? If you came from a 13inch, how did you find it?

May get the MacBook Air on a refurb until another design or MacBook Pro comes out.

Interestingly, got into bed last night & needed to do some work. I didn’t use the 14inch, I used the intel 13inch….,,
I have a 2015 15 inch I tried using it in bed and I said forget it and went back to my 2015 13 inch MBP as my night stand computer. I also have a M1 MBP, but that's stationary on my desk.
 

harleymhs

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i know what you mean - it is heavier there is no denying. I came from an Air to the 14 inch pro and I really thought about it because of the weight. Partly because I don't actually need this power - but those speakers and screen were noticeably nicer to me. And I actually got a v v good deal with the 14 inch MBP (I got the 2021 version).

however, I found after two weeks, the 14 inch pro felt fine. It took a whole two weeks to get used to it. But I did.
Same here. Just picked up a MBP 14 Refurb from apple. Snagged a 1TB version for 1600.00! Love it! And the screen is off the charts!
 

h.gilbert

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I mean... this is literally why I mentioned Retina.
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You're getting confused because you don't understand the naming convention of retina.

The retina models were the generation of MBPs from 2012 to 2015 where Apple had "retina" in their name. These are know as the "retina models".

Despite the fact that MBPs from 2016 up to now have retina screens, they are not commonly referred to as "retina". It's unconventional to call a 2020 MBP a retina MBP for example. Instead a lot refer to them as the butterfly MBP.

Non-retina refers to 2011 models and before.
 

darngooddesign

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You're getting confused because you don't understand the naming convention of retina.

The retina models were the generation of MBPs from 2012 to 2015 where Apple had "retina" in their name. These are know as the "retina models".

Despite the fact that MBPs from 2016 up to now have retina screens, they are not commonly referred to as "retina". It's unconventional to call a 2020 MBP a retina MBP for example. Instead a lot refer to them as the butterfly MBP.

Non-retina refers to 2011 models and before.
Please… do tell me more about the Macs I owned.
 
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teh_hunterer

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I had the same reaction, but ultimately decided to stick it out with this 3.5lb 14" MacBook, because of the quality and size of the display. What other Apple device am I going to go with? The 13" MacBook displays are too small and lack Pro Motion, the 12.9" iPad is barely any lighter or more portable, with a strange aspect ratio, so that's a no go. The 11" iPad Pro is too small to use as a main device.

Maybe you're on the same journey I was on:

- Get the 14" and be surprised by the weight and size
- Try every other device in the lineup and feel disappointed
- End up with a new appreciation of the 14"

I realised that there was no better device in Apple's lineup. There is just the niggling feeling that Apple could put this display, keyboard, speakers, and power in a thinner and lighter device some day. But today is not that day. There is nothing better.

And if you're talking pure value, the 14" base models of both the M1 refurb or M2 new, in their own ways, are the best value laptops Apple has made in a very very long time, perhaps ever.
 
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it's .02 pounds more than the 13" Retina was. Considering the fact that for the first time since the PowerBooks the smaller Pro is in the same class of hardware punch *and* the screen is larger, a little extra weight is worth it.

And I would venture the first time since around the G4 Titanium that Apple has fielded a laptop that is truly a desktop workstation replacement. Workstation laptops are rarely thin and light. If you compare it to Dell's Precision line of Workstation laptops, it compares very well in size/shape.
 
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