Just ordered a X1C (6th Gen)

Discussion in 'Alternatives to Mac Hardware' started by raqball, May 24, 2018.

  1. raqball macrumors 68000

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    So I just ordered a Lenovo X1 Carbon 6th gen and the price was killer considering the specs I got. They are having a Memorial Day sale right now and I get another 10% off the sales price,

    Specs:

    ThinkPad X1 Carbon 6G
    Part No: 20KHCTO1WW
    Configuration Details
    ● 8th Generation Intel® Core™ i5-8350U Processor
    ● Windows 10 Pro 64
    ● 14" FHD (1920 x 1080) IPS anti-glare, 300 nits
    ● 16 GB LPDDR3 2133MHz (Onboard)
    ● Integrated Intel® UHD Graphics 620
    ● Silver
    ● 720p HD Camera with ThinkShutter and microphone
    ● Fingerprint Reader
    ● Hardware dTPM2.0 Enabled
    ● 256GB Solid State Drive PCIe-NVME OPAL2.0 M.2
    ● 3 cell Li-Ion 57Wh

    Price --> $1,153 (yeah you read that right) with free delivery. I went with the Silver again this year. Will update next week after it arrives. Says 5-7 to ship...

    If you've been eyeballing a Lenovo X1C or X1 Yoga now is the time to buy!

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  2. Queen6 macrumors 604

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    Sweet deal, wish Lenovo was so gracious globally. Awesome notebook, right now need a lot more "push" strictly heavy lifters, no Mac's applicable :p

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  3. maflynn Moderator

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    I don't know, the 13" MBP which is closer configuration wise to the 14" X1C, has more power, i.e., 45W TDP processor and the GPU is a 640, instead of the 620. I suspect the 13" MBP would hold its own against the X1C

    I've heard good things about the Yoga, and I'm not down on the purchase, so don't take my words the wrong way. I'm just pointing out that the MBP is not a bad machine in its own right. It's not perfect, but spec wise its good imo.

    Congrats on your new baby :)
     
  4. raqball thread starter macrumors 68000

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    Current pricing wise, the Lenovo's are almost impossible to beat... I have a 2017 nTB right now (I'll probably sell it - not sure) with 16GB of RAM and a 256GB SSD and its fine for my usage. I don't really do much heavy lifting so base'ish models are generally fine for me. I VM every so often so pretty much need the added RAM.

    With this one, I upped the CPU from the 8250 to the 8350 as it was needed in order to get the 16GB RAM option. I didn't get the LTE option this year and I didn't upgrade the SSD.

    I've always like the Lenovo X1C, the X1 Yoga and even the standard Yoga's. I get a 10% discount from my former employer but if you are military, a student or a teacher I think you can get another 15% off!
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    They don't have killer sales in other parts of the world? If not, know anyone in the US who could order and ship?
     
  5. Queen6 macrumors 604

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    I mean like 7700HQ / Hex i7/i9, GTX 1070 / 1080. 32GB RAM, 2+ TB storage or more, looking at hex cores right now :) I suspect my current primary notebook will turn a 15" MBP inside out :p

    X1C versus 13" MBP, IMHO X1C way better notebook for those on the go, ports in the real world and all, importantly no KB issues. X1C is how thin & light should be done without overly compromising the user experience.

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    Rarely see deals across Asia from Lenovo, shipping from the US is also problematic as need to deal with local taxes etc. If get over to the US on business I'll definitely be looking to pick something up, either a lightweight like the X1C or another high performance notebook. Right now mostly focused across China, Malaysia, Thailand, Philippines etc.

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  6. SteveJUAE macrumors 68020

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    Very nice deal runs in at $1935 here in KL:( your swapping your laptops faster than Q-6
     
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    Yeah, some companies very unfairly increase the base price in some markets, which again is impacted by local taxes, equally one can still find deals :) Planning on putting a "thin & light" through it's paces this weekend, still a 17.3" not quite as flexible as my current primary, however what pique's the interest is under 3Kg with a hex core 8750H, GTX 1070, 32Gb RAM and duel drives, if also has a 2nd M.2 slot could be a contender.

    Of course the big question is can it keep all this hardware cool under load, I know this can :)
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    Prime95 Small FFT test will rapidly expose limitations in any cooling system, fan's aren't even at max :p

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  8. Zenithal macrumors 604

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    I'm thinking of a Lenovo, too, but I'm not sure if I can trust them since their debacle a few years ago. It's either them or a high performance mobile workstation from Dell or HP. I had a Samsung ultrabook I liked a lot, but it would get hotter than a MBP due to the tighter shell and metal.
     
  9. roxygal9 macrumors regular

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    Have you received your laptop yet? I seriously thinking of picking one of these up and start the transition to windows.
     
  10. roxygal9 macrumors regular

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    So after some research and honestly not liking Apple’s direction, I ordered a similar computer to the OP except I did opt for the HDR 500 not screen, 512 SSD, and the 4G LTE-A Modem.

    My mid-2013 MacBook Air is still running but the screen is lackluster. I have the 2nd gen iPad Pro and an iPhone 7 Plus - I hate to move to Windows by I’m gonna give it a try. I have been using Windows 10 at work and it’s not bad at all. It’s a trimmed down version so the Microsoft store isn’t available.

    Once i receive the laptop I will post my review of it - however I am deployed overseas so it will likely take some time before I receive it.

    In the meantime, if anyone has suggestions as to what Microsoft apps they find useful, please let me know. I will have office 365 and will need to get the iTunes/iCloud apps, but really unsure as to what else I may need. I’m thinking an Adobe license - I work and sign PDFs a lot.
    It’s a shame To leave after 9 Plus years, but the weight, battery, screen, and somewhat need for Internet explorer for my job are worth a try.
     
  11. hajime macrumors 601

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    How is your X1C (6gen) in terms of heat, noisy fan and possible throttle?
     
  12. roxygal9 macrumors regular

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    Once I get the computer I will let you know. I’m not really much of an IT person, how could I test the computer for throttling as i don’t game? I had read the i5 May be a little better in this department. I didn’t opt for the high end i7 as I’m using it for mostly business purposes
     
  13. Queen6 macrumors 604

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    HWinfo64 will let you see if any throttling is occurring & ThrottleStop may resolve by dialing down the CPU Core & Cache voltages. You can stress test the system with OCCT or in the extreme for the CPU Prime95

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  14. roxygal9 macrumors regular

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    Great I will look into it and post accordingly.
    I used to do light gaming with battlefield 2 so I may try to play a moderate game on it as I know it can handle some games even without the dedicated graphics care.

    Really looking forward to the screen on this thing and the lightweight. Hopefully windows 10 Pro won’t be to hard of a learning curve. I will miss macos but I may still pick up an iMac down the road when the mid13 MBA craps out.
     
  15. ryannel2003 macrumors 68000

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    I just ordered one of these with the Dolby screen this morning and should be getting it at the end of the week or next. How do you like it compared to the MacBook?
     
  16. hajime macrumors 601

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    For those who have been using the X1 Carbon Gen 6, how is your experience with this machine? Has the heat, noisy fan and thermal throttling issues been solved? After hearing all the issues with MBP 2018, I am considering between Lenovo and Apple.
     
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    I haven’t received mine yet but I believe I may get it today? I am deployed combined with the built to order it has taken a month to fulfill the order
     
  18. DeepIn2U macrumors 603

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    What no update since May? ;)

    I'm very curious about going with the X1 Carbon 6th generation. I've used the 5th generation and other than that ridiculous 'ThinkShutter' it's VERY similar in design.

    Of note the ThinkPad T480s is almost just as slim and yet packs a dedicated video card for the first time in this T-series category. T470/460/450/440s all did NOT have dedicated video cards. The T430s some configurations did.

    T480s, more ports, same processor choices with slightly higher TDP makes this model a better choice unless you have to show others you have an X1 Carbon ;)

    OP: incredible price ... not hating as even I would get an X1C get 6 with similar specs. Unfortunately my former employers supplier didn't have any cheaper deals July 1st, July 15th or last week Friday so Apple got my money. I'll keep looking on eBay as my son is in need for a new computer next month :(
     
  19. hajime macrumors 601

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    On the internet, it seems that there is an issue of misaligment between the LCD and the base of the laptop. Don't know how widespread this is.
     
  20. roxygal9 macrumors regular

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    So after a very long wait, I finally received my X1 Carbon!

    My Specs are as follows:

    Black ThinkPad X1 Carbon 6th Generation
    8th Generation Intel® Core™ i5-8350U Processor
    Windows 10 Pro 64
    14" WHDR Display (500 nits)
    16 GB LPDDR3 2133MHz (Onboard)
    Integrated Intel® UHD Graphics 620
    720p HD Camera with ThinkShutter and microphone
    Fingerprint Reader
    512GB Solid State Drive PCIe-NVME
    LTE onboard

    Initial impressions are this laptop is just fabulous. A 13.9 inch screen into about a 13 inch footprint - thing is super thin too. And yeah its superlight - its crazy how light it is. This is my first PC in almost 8 years. Setup was easy out of the box, and Ill start migrating my data tomorrow. The screen on this baby is amazing. I mean it really is a nice screen. I had read some people had screen bleed on their laptops - I do not have that issue.

    And the keyboard, well it goes without saying for a thinkpad. I had tried the 2017 MacBook pros keyboards and I jut didn't like them. I know there is a 3rd generation iteration of Apple's keyboard, but the thinness is there - and I don't know if I'd get used to it.

    I am not sure on performance or how to test it, but I am open to suggestions to show benchmarks, cooling etc.

    Once I have had a little more time with it I will post some more thoughts. I know Ill miss some aspects of MACos, (I do still have my ipad pro), and I may pickup a MacBook later on, but for now this computer checks all the boxes!
     
  21. hajime macrumors 601

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    Could you please test if it runs hot and whether or not has noisy fan when playing 4K videos. Please also test about how it handles different resolutions when it is connected to a 4K monitor. Is there a scaling issue?
     
  22. maflynn Moderator

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    CineBench is a tool many people come to rely on for benchmarking.

    @Queen6 mentioned hwinfo64, keep that running while executing cinebench and you can see what your temps are as it runs through the benchmark. I think your temps should be fine, since you're running a 8350u processor.

    Congrats on your new baby :)
     
  23. roxygal9 macrumors regular

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    Thanks - I will look into those when I get more time. I posted a pic of my new X1C rocking a skin :) Havent done the migration of files, setting up iTunes, etc yet which is of course a pain in the butt - but part of the moving to Windows 10 experience.

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  24. hajime macrumors 601

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    Any update on the heat, fan noise and battery life?
     
  25. roxygal9 macrumors regular

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    So I posted some stuff from OCCT - im really not sure how to use the program, but ran this after doing some browsing, having email open and several applications open.

    The battery life right now doesn't seem to bother me - but I haven't tested it thoroughly yet - with regular performance and screen at about 80% it is easily getting over 5 hours but I will update this when I have a better sense of it.

    The screen on this thing is really gorgeous. I do have the i5 (16gb) as I had read that there wouldn't be much of a performance boost for nonpower users like myself, and there is less chance of throttling with the i5 so I went with it. It has been great for my needs. Im still getting used to windows - and some applications like whats app etc take a little longer to open but that could be the app itself and not the computer?

    I don't have a 4k display so I wont be able to weigh in on that. As for fan noise, it did kick in a couple times, and I barely noticed it. Certainly nothing to complain about - it was not super loud at all. There are aspects of Mac I do miss like no updates and Im still getting used to Windows 10, but I do like Cortana.

    If there is something specific you want me to test with OCCT let me know - sorry for the ignorance, just not up on all that. I cannot stress how light this machine is. So far no regrets about this purchase!

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