rovostrov
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That is great! These models are really expensive to repair if something goes wrong. Hopefully you wont need it but its best to have in case you do
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Just picked up a 16" Intel MBP
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If you're planning on keeping it for awhile, I would renew it.
I don't know if I even can. I bought it off of a seller that sells a lot of computers since 2005 (it's a business). I am assuming they had this MacBook for a short time and sold it after they got it for even less money on trade in or something. I don't know who the original owner that bought apple care is. It was not advertised to have it, I just noticed it in system settings that it has it till Jan 2024. I looked on the website, the date of purchase of this MacBook was Jan 16 2021. AC Expires Jan 15 2024. I think they bought the 3 year one.
AlexMaximus
macrumors 65816
I am typing this message on a MacBook Pro 17' from 2010. I have this thing for 13 years now. It's an Intel.
Chances are high that you can keep your new Intel machine a lot longer than any M1 machine from two years ago.
Apple created a very strict walled garden with Apple Silicone without any escape and without any upgrade path. While Apple will cut off the M1's machine live cycle in 2027, you can still use your machine with an updated Windows for a whopping 5 years longer. Be happy, triumph and enjoy your great, last intel machine as long as you can. Apple Silicone WOULD be real great, but I highly doubt that an M1 will last 13 years and counting. The jury is still out, because APPLE SILICON has yet to prove it if it can hold up for 13 years. A VERY tall order. Laugh your ass off in 2027 while installing Windows 12.
We no longer live in a universe where the longevity of a product is determined by technical advances or technical obsolescence. It is artificial determined by a greedy mindset of the manufacturer to keep it's product lifecycle as short as possible in the name of capitalism, giving a sh%& about the environment. My Mac Pro 5.1 has a AMD 6800XT GPU and many other upgrades. This exact forum is the living proof that Apple is not interested at all to give its customer the maximal technical lifecycle a product would have, but cutting it down as soon as possible to push sales of new products while doing everything possible to make it harder or impossible to enlarge its lifecycle. (->M1) The iPhone software law suit because of artifical slowed down hardware through manipulated software is another prove. We need to stand up as a society against this misconduct and mark Apple for what it is. APPLE is NOT green, highly greedy and tax evasive. OpenCore is another example how we get Bullsh&%$§. This needs to stop.
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chrfr
macrumors G5
There's no Intel Mac that'll properly support Windows 11 (and yes, this is an arbitrary Microsoft decision), and Windows 10 goes out of support in 2025, so there is no actual chance of being able to run a fully supported copy of Windows beyond Windows 10 on any Intel Mac.
Unlike MacOS, artificial Microsoft barriers are easily circumvented. Very easy to install windows 11 on old machines. I even tried on a Mac mini 2006 with upgraded Core2Duo and 4gb of RAM/ssd which allows you to use the latest web browsers that are no longer available on the last OSX that will work with hacks on that vintage of Mini.
Apple Silicon machines are much more secure and I'm pretty sure there won't be OCLP hacks to get the M1 running the latest MacOS once Apple decides the M1 series has had enough upgrades.
You should be able to. Check the "About This Mac" menu after the New Years and you should be given the option to extend it. Even a quick call to Apple should work. My logic board replacement on my 2019 i9 would've been $800+ after taxes if I didn't have AC.
Nice! I have a 2008 17" I bought a couple years ago. Always wanted one back in middle school but definitely didn't need one then lol. My dad used to take me to the Apple Store all the time to look at them. Over a decade later I finally got my own 😀. It, and my Mac Pro 5,1 were my daily drivers (both with DosDude patcher) until I got my M1 13" in 2021. I have a couple 17" PowerBooks as well. Love collecting Apple stuff.
Yikes! Yeah if I had to pay over 2x to fix it over what I bought the whole computer for it would be getting recycled at Best Buy lol. If it's cheap I may renew it. I don't plan to use it too much anyway, mostly on trips. Although funny enough, I haven't really touched my M1 since I unboxed this back on Saturday 😀. I forgot how nice a big screen is. I have even brought it places with me. It fits in my same backpack (albeit I do feel the extra weight but no big deal) which is nice too.
chrfr
macrumors G5
This is true, but it's not a fully supported Windows configuration thanks to Microsoft making some user-hostile decisions.
I wouldn't want to use a Mac with Bootcamp to begin with, in parts due to the lackluster Windows driver that Apple provides it's not an equally good experience. Battery life as well as bad trackpad support (palm recognition doesn't work well and is essential especially for a 16" Intel MBP that has a huge trackpad).
And you are basing all this on a random guess, nobody can tell how long M1 devices will be supported. Basing it on experiences with Intel Macs doesn't work too well either, we had Intels that were out of support after just 4 years or so and others that got updates for a good 8-9 years. So anything between 5 and 10 years goes. And installing the latest MacOS major version is not necessary, right now many users are still on Ventura or Monterey although these are technically no longer receiving all security updates and certainly won't get any feature updates. But apps continue to be supported, Monterey will start seeing issues with latest apps later next year or the year after, for my 2015 MBP that's now 8.5 years old it means you can use it another year or two before Monterey runs into issues with app compatibility.
Me randomly guessing that the M1 will see at least as much support as the longest Intel support suggests M1 will run the latest apps until 2029 or even 2030 on an older MacOS until it's done for. And then there might be some sort of OCLP support that allows newer MacOS versions to run on M1 unofficially. Like how my 2015 MBP is still able to run Ventura with OCLP just fine.
And if you are going to install Windows on an Intel Mac with bootcamp you could just give OCLP a try. If it's fully supported then the experience (again, battery, trackpad, and of course having native MacOS) will be much better than with Windows. I did use Windows with bootcamp before, and stopped after multiple times Windows Updates wouldn't run or once broke the entire install which made me quit using it as it was very obvious that neither Microsoft nor Apple care about a good bootcamp experience. And why would they. Microsoft would rather you buy a windows PC that comes with a bundled Windows license, and Apple would rather you remain in their software universe.
Getting more life out of an Intel Mac sounds like a great idea until you actually use it - maybe it's better on a desktop Mac that doesn't need that trackpad support and doesn't have a battery, I'll give you that. But for Macbooks where I had multiple with bootcamp, a 2012 MBP, a 2015 MBP and the last one a 2017 MBP before I dropped bootcamp it didn't work well enough on any.
For anyone who doesn't absolutely need Windows or MacOS there might be a linux based system with a relatively good UI available over the next couple of years. Bootable linux already exists for the M1 though complications with driver support for that M1 mean there is not guarantee when or if that will be ready for actual use. (I tried it on my M1 Mac many months ago and it was far from ready.)
That is something people do, though usually with phones. Specifically, there are trade-ins where you get ridiculous amounts for the iPhone SE and you just buy one off craigslist for 50 bucks and send that in.
I went from a Mac M1 Studio Max to a 2020 27" intel iMac (i7 processor), then added RAM (128G) to the iMac and was very happy with the change. I did buy a M2 Mac Mini Pro later for running less RAM dependent stuff, but I still use both.
I couldn't get rid of my Intels fast enough. The Intels are good for cooking breakfast and heating your room during winter.
Also, you aren't going to get $700 for your M1. You can buy a brand new one with a warranty for $800.
Even with that 16GB of RAM, the Intel MacBook Pro is going to feel slower than the M1 Air, I bet.
I guess you'll get a chance to try them side by side and see!
I guess you'll get a chance to try them side by side and see!
On FB marketplace locally I see between 600-800 so I was just going in the middle. I’m going to keep it anyway.
Yeah the intel one definitely feels a little slower but overall I’ve used it this whole week. Haven’t touched the M1. The screen size is just so nice and I’ve been playing games on it with boot camp.
I finally shipped off my 2019 i9 16" trade-in today... I was waffling until the last moment. really difficult to let it go but there is no reason to own two macbook pros. my iMac is still boot camped so I still have access to AAA games but I will miss having them in my bag. RIP sweet intel.. the Dark M3 Max rises.
Ah sorry about the late response.
I think (?) the speakers are supposed to be the same or even better on the Apple Silicon Mac, but for some reason my Intel just sounds a bit better to my ears. I think it might the sound profile, maybe they changed it and I just didn't like the change. (Both are still 10/10 speakers, I just prefer the Intel ones 🤷♂️ )
AHDuke99
macrumors 68020
I am still using my 2019 16" MBP. I have considered upgrading to an Apple Silicon MBP but so far have held off. I am not much of a gamer, but I still enjoy playing Heroes of the Storm and Starcraft II occasionally, and I know once I make the switch I will no longer be able to play those games. I don't own a PC laptop outside of my corporate laptop and I doubt I can load games on that.
The Intel MBPs are still good machines assuming you don't need high end video editing and other things like that.
The Intel MBPs are still good machines assuming you don't need high end video editing and other things like that.
Checking this now and I don't see any options anywhere to extend. Has 2 weeks left so figured by now it would let me.
Jack Neill
macrumors 68020
I love my M1 Airs but lately I find myself reaching for my 2018 i7/16/1TB 13" alot of the time. I love the 4TB ports and i like the pro body better than the air body in the late teen design lineup. It has been a great little machine.
redheeler
macrumors G3
His point is valid but he should've said Linux instead of Windows. Turn an old Mac into a Linux box and it'll last many years more.
Windows and Mac are both corporate ecosystems and neither Microsoft nor Apple cares about your old hardware.
You need to call Apple support. You maybe registered the machine to your appleid, but warranty doesn’t transfer with the appleid change.
I used to have that model before upgrading to an M1 Air. Yes I could drive three displays natively but it did not take much to get the fans spinning up and getting loud. VMs were a really easy way to do that. I used to play an older windows game using VMWARE Fusion. My i7 MacBook Pro would usually idle around 140 degrees with the three displays attached. When I would start up this game I would see the Fans spin up and the temps then pushing 200. I can play that same game on an M1 Air or Pro and the system won't hit 140 and I never hear the fans.
Yeah my new 16" M3 Pro is way quieter. I have had the 16" intel with me the past week on a vacation down in Central America and it's been great though. Just super hot while running games with the family in boot camp. Like burn to the touch hot. But my M3 Pro can't play these games so its a necessary evil.