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Just picked up MacBook Pro 13" Retina
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Can you explain/describe this '8GB sleep image' that I've heard others as well refer to?
Err, I think when comparing a an MBA versus a rMBP you're closer than you realize. I was there and the screen won.
13" 2.0ghz i7 MBA with 8gb and 512 SSD: $2199
13" 2.9ghz i7 rMBP w 8gb and 256 SSD $2199
So for the same price you get a better processor in the rMBP and you get the screen, at the cost of giving up 256gb on the SSD. It's actually a bit of a decision point. Like a "Do I give up the grossly overpriced storage?" kind of decision. Form factors are different, but honestly not hugely so. The $500 upcharge for the 512 SSD in the rMBP now? ridiculous IMHO
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If you put your Mac into hibernate mode it creates an image on the drive the size of system memory to store an image of what state the machine was in when hibernate was invoked.
http://macperformanceguide.com/Mac-optimize-sleepimage.html
Yes it's a worthy investment unless you are Scrooge McDuck.
If it makes you happy, saves time, and holds it value relative to other manufacturers products, keep it.
Was in the Apple Store last night and I am even happier now that I went with the 13" rMBP (and saved $500 in the process). The 15" has more horsepower than I'll ever need or utilize and the form factor is so much bigger.
Plus, they don't utilize that added space for a larger trackpad or anything else that would add to the attractiveness of the 15" as a desktop replacement. Great machine, but the 13" has a much better feel to me (not unlike some people preferring the iPad Mini over the full-sized iPad).
PS - I was in the Apple Store to pick up a Bluetooth portable speaker. Went with the JBL Flip which received awesome reviews on iLounge and other sites and performs very well compared to pricier alternatives from Jawbone and Bose. It sounds awesome and is only $99. Just figured I'd toss in that recommendation.
Plus, they don't utilize that added space for a larger trackpad or anything else that would add to the attractiveness of the 15" as a desktop replacement. Great machine, but the 13" has a much better feel to me (not unlike some people preferring the iPad Mini over the full-sized iPad).
PS - I was in the Apple Store to pick up a Bluetooth portable speaker. Went with the JBL Flip which received awesome reviews on iLounge and other sites and performs very well compared to pricier alternatives from Jawbone and Bose. It sounds awesome and is only $99. Just figured I'd toss in that recommendation.
Was in the Apple Store last night and I am even happier now that I went with the 13" rMBP (and saved $500 in the process). The 15" has more horsepower than I'll ever need or utilize and the form factor is so much bigger.
Plus, they don't utilize that added space for a larger trackpad or anything else that would add to the attractiveness of the 15" as a desktop replacement. Great machine, but the 13" has a much better feel to me (not unlike some people preferring the iPad Mini over the full-sized iPad).
PS - I was in the Apple Store to pick up a Bluetooth portable speaker. Went with the JBL Flip which received awesome reviews on iLounge and other sites and performs very well compared to pricier alternatives from Jawbone and Bose. It sounds awesome and is only $99. Just figured I'd toss in that recommendation.
the larger space is for the side speaker grills on the 15" which the 13" obviously doesn't have. and why would a larger trackpad ever make sense. so you want your wrists to rest on top of this larger trackpad when typing and inadvertently move the cursor around?
100% correct. I was reading through this thread and was going to comment but then i read this and couldn't have said it better myself. I wanted the 15" rMBP over the summer when it came out, but i ended up settling for the 15" cMBP and after researching more extensively after my purchase, i realize that i made the right decision.
There's extra space north/south for a bigger trackpad on the 15". If you've ever used the Magic Trackpad you'd see how nice a larger trackpad is for gestures.
theres hardly any 'extra space' to the north and south of the area. what would you add..like half an inch maybe? and that would basically ruin the spacing/padding design around the trackpad and turn it into an awkward almost-square.
Hardly? There's at least a 1/2 inch in each direction (full inch larger) that could be used to enlarge the trackpad on the 15" (see attachment). Play with a Magic Trackpad and you'll see how nice it is. On the MBP trackpads, my gestures often go over the usable tracking area, messing up my intentions.
Regardless, my point was that I prefer the compact design of the 13" over the 15" after taking another look last night and wish the 15" made use of its additional surface area for user input. Both are phenomenally crafted machines so don't get all worked up over nothing.
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Sorry, my mistake. There is no point getting 512 SSD. I was talking on maxed out Air with 256Gb SSD, since all the rest can be put on external with either USB3.0 or even Thunderbolt.
Footprint of rMBP 15" compare to cMBP 13" is not that bigger. I compared and was satisfied, taking into account it is much thinner.
The problem is that this doesn't seem to work on my rMBP. I've set hibernatemode 0 and removed the sleepimage on two other mac notebooks and it stays gone; but on my rMBP, it keeps re-creating the sleepimage file even though hibernatemode is reported as 0. Maybe something has changed due to Power Nap?
Interesting. Agreed, worked flawlessly on my cMBP's. I have a retina 13 that's going to the Genius bar with other issues, if they don't keep/swap it I'll give it a try on it later today.
I regret to say that I returned the retina macbook pro 13" today since the video card is crippled. Switching between desktops with mission control appeared choppy. I will wait till the next revision and stick with my high-end PC for now
I haven't really seen this and keep in mind that even the 15" with dGPU uses the same Intel HD4000 integrated chip for the majority of tasks...and certainly mission control.
Lag hasn't been an issue for me and if it takes an extra millisecond to render 2560x1600 on a 13" display well than so be it...the pros of the display outweigh the cons by a mile. Once you go retina there's no going back. Every other screen is an eyesore that would eat at me every minute.
Had both, returned mini. Wasnt impressed w the screen, ill wait until the retina display.
Guys a few question concerning Retina 13":
1. Is it true that by default the 2560x1600 resolution is not available (you need some software to achieve this resolution)?
2. Does 2560x1600 resolution increase the desktop space significantly?
3. How much SSD space is available (excluding space used by Mac OS) on 128 SDD?
4. SSD 128GB=128Gb or less (by analogy with HDD)?
5. Is SSD upgradable or not ( I know it's possible on Retina 15" but not sure about Retina 13"?
1. Is it true that by default the 2560x1600 resolution is not available (you need some software to achieve this resolution)?
2. Does 2560x1600 resolution increase the desktop space significantly?
3. How much SSD space is available (excluding space used by Mac OS) on 128 SDD?
4. SSD 128GB=128Gb or less (by analogy with HDD)?
5. Is SSD upgradable or not ( I know it's possible on Retina 15" but not sure about Retina 13"?
To answer your questions:
1. Yes, the full resolution is not intended to be used in the normal sense (more screen real estate and better resolution) Your screen renders much like a standard 13" pro but with much cleaner images. You can adjust for more resolution internally or buy software that allows you to use full resolution but your image sizes will be very small.
2. See the first answer.
3. Depends on what you're installing. I use Parallels Photoshop Office 2010 & 2011 and it takes up most of a 128GB drive.
4. Buy the Hard drive you plan to fill in the future you cannot upgrade the SSD on the rMBP's (13 or 15) What you buy is what you live with as nothing is user upgradable. These are - disposable computers, just as Apple intended.
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As a number of people have mentioned in this thread, this computer is not for everyone. I like the Macbook Air and now the rMBP small form factor as I travel a lot. No one makes computers like this yet (Screen quality, build quality etc) at any price really. These are not a good buy right now unless, like me you have to have latest greatest of whatever fits your needs. Next year Apple will probably squeeze in a faster processor and discreet graphics into the 13" rMBP and maybe adjust pricing (I know from local Apple and Best Buy stores these things are DOA as far as sales go right now and they are new) If you can afford the latest greatest then just enjoy it!!
As a number of people have mentioned in this thread, this computer is not for everyone. I like the Macbook Air and now the rMBP small form factor as I travel a lot. No one makes computers like this yet (Screen quality, build quality etc) at any price really. These are not a good buy right now unless, like me you have to have latest greatest of whatever fits your needs. Next year Apple will probably squeeze in a faster processor and discreet graphics into the 13" rMBP and maybe adjust pricing (I know from local Apple and Best Buy stores these things are DOA as far as sales go right now and they are new) If you can afford the latest greatest then just enjoy it!!
the 15 has upgrade capabilities now so my guess is that eventually OCW will release and upgrade alternative just like they've done for the 15
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