Just Pure Unadulterated Greed!!!

AdonisSMU

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That's Apple's MO right now. This is what happens when you get a bean counter supply chain guru in charge instead of a person who cares about design, innovation and the end user. Imagine people who need to work for a living spending $2600 after american taxes on a computer to start to do work. Geesh!!!!
 

Ghost31

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I could try to put on my Apple fanboy hat and come up with some stupid defense

...I can't. I just can't. This just blows my mind. People are buying pcs less. So Apple Jacks up the price by hundreds of dollars? No. just no. This really makes me wonder where apple is headed.
 

Zwhaler

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In my Tim Cook voice: "We know the new MacBook Pros are expensive. And that's why we know you're going to love them".
 

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It's a premium product. BTW, the Microsoft Surface Book introduced yesterday starts at $2,399.
This is what I came here to say. Most people on this site never look at alternative laptops, so they don't know that the PC market prices are increasing as a whole. Yes, apple has its "apple tax," but it isn't as absurd as others say.

When someone compares the price of the laptop they bought 5 years ago to the prices of these ones... just shut them out. It's beyond stupid to do that. Time and technology and market have changed prices since then, drastically. Not comparable.
 
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Hadron

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As a Brit I don't feel quite as hard done by: there has been a large price bump, but it's pretty much in line with the devaluation of the pound against the dollar since June, if anything a little less than that would predict. So I can blame the people who voted for exit rather than blaming Apple ;)
 

haydn!

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This is what I came here to say. Most people on this site never look at alternative laptops, so they don't know that the PC market prices are increasing as a whole. Yes, apple has its "apple tax," but it isn't as absurd as others say.

When someone compares the price of the laptop they bought 5 years ago to the prices of these ones... just shut them out. It's beyond stupid to do that. Time and technology and market have changed prices since then, drastically. Not comparable.
A 50% increase though? (UK pricing)
 

eastamherstbias

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Hey I need to build sturdy software with this thing for the next 3 years. I can't afford not to get a top of the line machine.
This is actually not a big deal. Wait 6 months and there will be deals. I don't get why you people freak out over the cost. It is a flagship premium device. Hold out and you can get some money off. Or pay the premium and cry at night.
 

Ryan1524

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That's Apple's MO right now. This is what happens when you get a bean counter supply chain guru in charge instead of a person who cares about design, innovation and the end user. Imagine people who need to work for a living spending $2600 after american taxes on a computer to start to do work. Geesh!!!!
Why do you need the $2600 machine? Perhaps it's overkill for the work you need to do.
 

Hadron

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A 50% increase though? (UK pricing)
50%? If I compare the same spec I currently use (13", 8 GB, 512GB SSD) it's a couple of hundred on the education price (which is the relevant one for me, and hence the one I watch, but I assume scales with the non-education price).

If you mean comparing UK with US prices, remember that US prices don't include taxes, UK prices do, and all companies use their own exchange rates (hedging against fluctuations) rather than today's market rate. The UK price is always higher than the US one * today's rate, my comparison with simply with the recent UK prices - these had not, that I'd seen, changed with exchange rate, but you'd expect that the release of a new model would be the point at which they'd include that.
 

dumastudetto

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As a Brit I don't feel quite as hard done by: there has been a large price bump, but it's pretty much in line with the devaluation of the pound against the dollar since June, if anything a little less than that would predict. So I can blame the people who voted for exit rather than blaming Apple ;)
The 15" 512GB model is £700 more expensive now which is a greater than a 35% price increase over the model listed this morning.
 

macduke

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I could try to put on my Apple fanboy hat and come up with some stupid defense

...I can't. I just can't. This just blows my mind. People are buying pcs less. So Apple Jacks up the price by hundreds of dollars? No. just no. This really makes me wonder where apple is headed.
Same here. I guess they're using a year old processor as well? And you can't even upgrade beyond 16GB of RAM, which is ridiculous since my mid-2012 rMBP has that much. So much for future proofing. I spec'd it out and it would cost me $3499 to get the machine I want but limited to 16GB of soldered RAM, so it would probably only last me another two years tops with all the high megapixel RAW cameras coming out in addition to 60fps 4K and even some of the lower end cameras starting to toy around with 6K.

My favorite is that for $2499 I can get the 13" model, which BTW has a slower processor than my mid-2012 15" rMBP, has the same RAM and SSD capacity, and yet costs only slightly less than what I paid back then.

If you already have a rMBP, there is absolutely no reason to upgrade unless you really think that Touch Bar is going to increase your productivity and you have a lot of cash to throw around. I admit that the Touch Bar does seem a lot less gimmicky than I thought, but it's just not worth it when you consider everything else. I also can't believe that they haven't upgraded the iMac or the iPad Pro. Are those just dead now? The Mac Pro and Mac Mini is less surprising but equally infuriating for those affected.
 
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Ryan1524

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The TouchBar could be interesting, once I get used to it.

But what's more appealing to me is the ability to drive up to 2 5K displays. My 2013 rMBP can't do that comfortably.
 

dumastudetto

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50%? If I compare the same spec I currently use (13", 8 GB, 512GB SSD) it's a couple of hundred on the education price (which is the relevant one for me, and hence the one I watch, but I assume scales with the non-education price).
That model was £1399.00 on the main site this morning. The refreshed one is now £1949.00. A 39% increase.
 

haydn!

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50%? If I compare the same spec I currently use (13", 8 GB, 512GB SSD) it's a couple of hundred on the education price (which is the relevant one for me, and hence the one I watch, but I assume scales with the non-education price).

If you mean comparing UK with US prices, remember that US prices don't include taxes, UK prices do, and all companies use their own exchange rates (hedging against fluctuations) rather than today's market rate. The UK price is always higher than the US one * today's rate, my comparison with simply with the recent UK prices - these had not, that I'd seen, changed with exchange rate, but you'd expect that the release of a new model would be the point at which they'd include that.
Forgive me for rounding off. Previous entry 15" was £1599, today it's £2349. That's a £750 increase, £50 shy of 50%.

Apple are selling that 18 month old, £1599 model for £1899 after today. This isn't just currency fluctuations. It's pure greed.
 

AdonisSMU

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I still think its greedy. Just because MSFT overpriced it's crap doesn't mean Apple needs to follow suit.
 

SparkFlash

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I could try to put on my Apple fanboy hat and come up with some stupid defense

...I can't. I just can't. This just blows my mind. People are buying pcs less. So Apple Jacks up the price by hundreds of dollars? No. just no. This really makes me wonder where apple is headed.
Agreed. I don't understand the long term plan here...
 
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