Just upgrade my DP Mac Pro to 12 core! It flies!

Discussion in 'Mac Pro' started by Amethyst, Sep 5, 2014.

  1. Amethyst macrumors 6502

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    This is second time i upgrade my old 2009 DP 2.26.
    First time i just upgrade to dual x5570 4 core 2.93 and make it top-end mac of 2009. get 32bit geekbench around 17000.
    I very happy with it.

    However, i just saw price drop on x5670 in the bay.
    Now you can get pair of it just $300.

    No need to wait. i just put it to my pros.
    That make my mac pro to 24000 32bit geekbench.
    More than today 2013 8core.

    Recommend for everyone. this is best-bang-for-buck now.
     
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  3. Zwhaler macrumors 603

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    Nice, that's what I have in mine and it can crunch some numbers! Surprising that the only faster BTO Macs are the 3.06 2010 and the 2.7 2013.
     
  4. leon771 macrumors regular

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    What do you do with your Mac Pro day to day? Do you load up all cores regularly or not?

    Is there really that much difference between the X5570 and X5670?
    Are your temps lower/higher?

    I upgraded my E5520 machine to dual X5570s last year. I've toyed with the idea of going 12 core, but am waiting for X5680s on the cheap.
     
  5. Zwhaler macrumors 603

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    X5570
    32-bit Single Core: 2,122
    32-bit Multi Core: 15,821
    64-bit Single Core: 2,307
    64-bit Multicore: 17,760

    X5670
    32-bit Single Core: 2,296
    32-bit Multi Core: 24,214
    64-bit Single Core: 2,497
    64-bit Multicore: 27,131

    Gains:
    32-bit Single Core: +8.2%
    32-bit Multi Core: +53.04%
    64-bit Single Core: +8.2%
    64-bit Multi Core: +52.76%
     
  6. flowrider macrumors 601

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    I've upgraded ny dual CPU 5,1 twice. The first was to W5590 and the Second time to X5677. From the stuff I do on my machine, I felt the single core scores were more important to me than the total score. I could have afforded the X5690 pair, but I got to thinking that dual quad cores would run cooler than dual hex cores. I've turned my Boost Fans up to 1600RPM, and both of my CPUs are running pretty cool. At this moment CPU A is running @ 122° F and CPU B @ 110° F.

    My Geekbench 64 bit scores are:

    Single Core 2780
    Multi Core 22019

    Fo me, I made the right decision.

    Lou
     
  7. ha1o2surfer macrumors 6502

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    I would use LuxMark to gauge CPU performance rather than Geekbench. Geekbench will put a much higher load on all your CPUs for much longer.
     
  8. Zwhaler macrumors 603

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    Isn't that the idea? While h.264 encoding, that is precisely what the CPU does. Other forms of rendering and SETI do that as well, except in even more extreme ways.
     
  9. ha1o2surfer macrumors 6502

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    I meant to say LuxMark! wow.. lol LuxMark does a better job then GeekBench
     
  10. CASLondon macrumors 6502a

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    Just by changing my 5,1 from stock 8 cores of 2.26 to 12 cores of 3.33, and everything else stock (gpu, hd), mine went from

    single core 1810 multicore 13,249
    single core 2643 multicore 30,217

    Can't wait to put a nMP pcie SSD in this mother, a new GPU, and run it once more
     
  11. Amethyst thread starter macrumors 6502

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    Epic!!!
     
  12. artherd macrumors member

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    These machines are the best goddamn computer Apple has ever made. My 2010 now sports:
    Dual X5690 3.46Ghz Hexcore
    64GB of RAM
    Fibre Channel SAN
    DUAL AMD 7970 GPUs.

    It solidly kicks the snot out of even the top spec BTO new Mac Pro.
     
  13. bearcatrp macrumors 68000

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    Congrats on the upgrade. I sold my 2008 mac pro to build a dual X5670 pc. Love the power. I miss OSX but not the price apple charges for mac pro's. Enjoy.
     
  14. CASLondon macrumors 6502a

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    I need to learn more about the fibre channel. Based on your setup, I'm guessing you work with video. Can you tell me more about your storage?
     
  15. stmp macrumors member

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    In the same boat here: upgrading an 8 core 4,1 to a 12 core 5,1.

    Have read over all the threads to my best ability and can't seem to find an answer (despite others having asked the same question) to this:

    what size diameter nylon washers should be purchased to properly fit the diameter of the heat sink corner screws?

    This is not a question referring to the height of the washer(s), which has been established as approx 2-2.6mm, but rather the diameter of the washers interior opening.

    @Amethyst did you use washers for the heatsink to correct for the 2mm offset with the new CPUs?

    Any insight here much appreciated as always. Thanks in advance!
     
  16. gochi macrumors 6502

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    but how do you notice the change? do apps just load faster or what.
     
  17. artherd macrumors member

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    I would very incredibly strongly recommend not using anything but steel or stainless steel for the washers. Nylon is not good enough.
     
  18. Amethyst thread starter macrumors 6502

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    I use aluminium washer. buy from my local shop for $0.3.
     
  19. RoastingPig macrumors 68000

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    anyone know how hot the x5690's run? i heard somewhere people usually put extra fans inside there mac pro chassis.
     
  20. artherd macrumors member

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    Totally unnessecary. Maybe 5-10deg warmer at best.
     
  21. Mactrunk macrumors regular

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    I concur.
    Temperature has not been a problem.
    Not sure why Apple didn't offer these chips.
    They work fine.
     
  22. artherd macrumors member

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    Usually products are engineered for a certain min-max set of ambient temperature requirements. EG: it has to work from 20F-140F ambient, in 0-99% humidity. Then they fully load the box. 4 power-sucking drives of the time (or maybe resistive loads at full socket amperage) RAID card, 2 video cards. Full system load burn-in test, must remain within operational parameters (whatever those are decided to be) plus 20%-50% margin for "comfort". I'd imagine that a 130W TDP part at least on paper exceeded those margins. Maybe.

    Maybe Apple just didn't want to spend the money and offer what at the time would have been a 15k machine.

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    Now however, it kicks the new macpro's ass.
     
  23. Fangio macrumors 6502

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    Another success story here

    Just replaced the X5570s in my 2009 cMP 4,1 > 5,1 with two Westmere X5675, to match the 2012 TOTL 5,1 config.

    Single Core GB score 64-bit: 2632, +12,63%
    Multicore GB score 64-bit: 28650, +61,58%

    Geekbench Vergleich X5570 vs. X5675.png

    The CPUs came from Florida. I've patiently waited for affordable X5680s but realized they wouldn't come down this year to what I’m ready to pay. So I settled for X5675 and eventually got a decent deal on them: my offer for $175/ea was accepted (that equaled ~350€ for both, s/h and import tax included). In Europe the best offer I could find was ~240€/ea, X5680s are still around 300€/ea over here. Finally got around to install them now
    ATM 10.10 & X5675.png
    Used the Pindelski tutorial and yes, metal washers for the 2mm height difference is crucial, as is some caution & instinctive feeling when tightening the heatsink screws again. Other than that, it wasn't all that hard.

    One of the advantages is the same 95W TDP as the Nehalems before. Another is, they run a bit cooler. RAM speed went up to 1333MHz so I've bought the right stuff for an upgrade last year. Very pleased with the performance boost for a 5 year old machine, particularly in apps that address all cores.
     
  24. chrisrand macrumors member

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    Could you tell me where you got your Fibre Channel SAN from?

    Also are you using an auxiliary PSU for the dual GPUs?

    Thanks
     
  25. Larry-K, Dec 31, 2014
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    Larry-K macrumors 68000

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    I'm thinking of doing that CPU upgrade, how hot does it run?
     

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