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Originally posted by Shadowfax
oh, shoot. do you not have apple developer tools installed? you need the latest, i think. at any rate, GCC is on OS X if you install dev tools. i think they come with OS X on the extras CD thing that has all the APPs...

or you can snag the latest somewhere over here.


The installer package might already be on the computer as /Applications/Installers/Developer Tools/Developer.mpkg

I stumbled across this on my TiBook when I was looking for something.
 
Originally posted by Jeffx342
THANK YOU!!! A COMPILER!!!! =D

BTW, I'm not a linux guru. On a un-related note, is there a /proc like thing on darwin?
the GCC thing is for darwin, it doesn't run via X11 or have anything to do with it. but now that you have it, you should be able to just use fink to get the stuff. there should be no problems. if there is a problem, i recommend starting from scratch with fin, now you have the dev tools. i wouldn't try to compile the packages manually. it's as easy as sudo rm -rf /sw!
then you reinstall fink and dl bundle-kde again. a word of advice: DO NOT even think about getting an unstable version of KDE. i did this back when 3.0 was in stable and 3.1 beta was in unstable, and it screwed my system over like none other from total crashes. it would run startkde, and just freeze everything. no mouse movement, nothing. don't do it!
 
Originally posted by szark
The installer package might already be on the computer as /Applications/Installers/Developer Tools/Developer.mpkg

I stumbled across this on my TiBook when I was looking for something.
he should still DL the latest december 2002 version though. i know there is a lot of fink stuff (when you use fink to install rather than apt-get, which DLs the source packages and compiles them) uses the latest dev tools, and only the latest dev tools... it's a generally good idea to have it on hand.
 
Noob question from the "linux guru"

Is there a command line tool to extract/install the developer.mpkg?

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Yeah, I know about evil KDE Unstable betas.. I installed it on my linux box back in the day, it farked everything up.

Also, I know GCC doesn't run within X11, but it is required so fink can compile kde, because i'm too lazy to type ./configure and ./make install

I really want a Mac now, but I need to find a few grand before doing so =x

I also want my forum e-mail confermation(sp?) to get to me so I can post under my own name...

::sigh.. how does it feel to want::

Thanks guys. You all have been a real help

[edit -- fixed my caffinated rant and some grammer errors..]
 
Originally posted by Jeffx342
Noob question from the "linux guru"

Is there a command line tool to extract/install the developer.mpkg?

Not really. You can type "open Developer.mpkg" on the command line, but the installer uses an Aqua interface.
 
Originally posted by Jeffx342
I also want my forum e-mail confermation(sp?) to get to me so I can post under my own name...
odd... there should be no wait on that confirmation. what's the new handle?
 
still cant figure this out...
wow how tough is this...

unless someone could maybe remote to my box using ssh and help me out
 
Originally posted by Jeffx342
still cant figure this out...
wow how tough is this...

unless someone could maybe remote to my box using ssh and help me out
walk us through your problem. what's going wrong? what's happening, or not happening? a walkthrough of just what you have done to this point would also be helpful.
 
Ok I fixed the problem needed X11 sdk.

Okay I installed all the packages. Now X11 will not start up it has a Funny "X" that replaced my mouse pointer
 
Originally posted by Jeffx342
Ok I fixed the problem needed X11 sdk.

Okay I installed all the packages. Now X11 will not start up it has a Funny "X" that replaced my mouse pointer
that's a good thing. it's a standard X11 pointer; it's there while it's booting up. how is X11 not working? does it just close mysteriously a minute after you start it?
 
It is working under root, which is kinda weird. I guess I have to be under root to get Kde. On my other main login it looks like X11 is haulted not doing anything. When I switched to root it worked fine.
 
I figured out what it was. "

after you do this, you'll want to make a .xinitrc file to start KDE when you open X11.

in terminal, hit

pico ~/.xinitrc


I screwed this up I think. When I loaded Kde It raped my Desktop I rather have it in X11 window
 
Originally posted by Jeffx342
I am just wondering my folder "sw" in my HD is like 768mgs is that normal? or do I have other junk in there?
it's normal after you put KDE on there. it keeps the installation packages as well as the installation, so things tend to fill up (after a 150 MB download)... i wouldn't worry about it, unless you're crammed for space. then you might want to find some packages to remove, like the TeX editor that came with KDE.
 
Okay so I finally got it working, After download KDE three times or something. I too didn't do the SDK thing. One hting thats not working though is it autoloading when I load x11.

I have to type startkde into xterm to load it, then I have to have an xterm window open or it will shutdown KDE, any Ideas? This is really cool tho, they work together so seamlessly, now its seems I have a computer that is twice as good!
 
Originally posted by amnesiac1984
Okay so I finally got it working, After download KDE three times or something. I too didn't do the SDK thing. One hting thats not working though is it autoloading when I load x11.

I have to type startkde into xterm to load it, then I have to have an xterm window open or it will shutdown KDE, any Ideas? This is really cool tho, they work together so seamlessly, now its seems I have a computer that is twice as good!
did you put "/sw/bin/startkde" at the end of your ~/.xinitrc file?
 
Some slight problems

Thanks for the tips thus far, Shadowfax. I've got a quick question. I would like to get rid of the top menu bar in KDE, the one that resides below my standard Apple menu bar. How do I do it? I'm also trying to make my KDE panel smaller. I have tried to adjust the size via the Control Center but to no avail. I have a screenshot here showing my desktop:

http://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~bigphil/graphics/desktop2.jpeg
 
By the way

I noticed my xterm window spits out: "kicker: KMiniPager: Call to KWinInterface::setDesktopLayout(int, int, int) failed" when I click "Disable Desktop Menu" from the menu bar. Does this mean anything? :confused:
 
not sure about that problem in your second post, but that original problem should be solved by running the "desktop settings wizard" again and selecting for it to behave like windows or something (rather than mac OS, which i assume you choose. this should make the file etc menus show up on a per window basis inside the window rather than on an "active window" basis at the top. there is another way to change that, but i don't remember what it is.
 
Ah sweet, its all working perfectly, wel almost. How do I install things like GIMP and Karamba, do I have to download a special Darwin Version?

I'm completely new to this side of things, but its great fun. I'm posting this in konquerer, its a nice browser! Isn't this what safari is based on? although macrumors looks v different in it.
 
Originally posted by amnesiac1984
Ah sweet, its all working perfectly, wel almost. How do I install things like GIMP and Karamba, do I have to download a special Darwin Version?

I'm completely new to this side of things, but its great fun. I'm posting this in konquerer, its a nice browser! Isn't this what safari is based on? although macrumors looks v different in it.
you can go through the packages list at fink.sourceforge.net to find stuff you want.

"sudo apt-get install mozilla" will get you the latest mozilla release for fink, and sudo apt-get install gimp" will get you the gimp. then you can go and detect them in KDE by running kAppFinder from the settings menu in the kMenu.
 
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