Keep forgetting my phone, yet the watch still gets iMessage.

[fischersd]

Try what?

Heh...read up

1) Turn on wifi hotspot on your iPhone.
2) Have your mac or macbook connect to it
3) Turn off your AP
4) Turn off your bluetooth on the iPhone
5) See if the watch has network connectivity (i.e., connects to the iPhone hotspot)

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That makes sense. Does it constantly update new SSIDs or only use the ones on the phone and setup?

New networks added to your phone should automagically populate on the watch.

 

[KeepCalmPeople]

that is sweet, i'm guessing your work isn't running WPA Enterprise?

This feature doesn't seem to work at my work

Where I work, we have WPA Enterprise and a trust certificate is installed on your iPhone when you first login to the wireless network. It'll be interesting to see if the Watch will connect without the phone once the phone has connected and accepted the certificate.

 

[Subdiv]

Heh...read up

1) Turn on wifi hotspot on your iPhone.
2) Have your mac or macbook connect to it
3) Turn off your AP
4) Turn off your bluetooth on the iPhone
5) See if the watch has network connectivity (i.e., connects to the iPhone hotspot)

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New networks added to your phone should automagically populate on the watch.

See post 13...i already tried that, and it did't work.

 

[fischersd]

See post 13...i already tried that, and it did't work.

Ah, ok, I didn't think you had, as you were questioning if the password was also replicated with the wifi profile. It obviously is, or my macbook wouldn't have been able to connect to the iPhone.

Hmm. It should work though. It's just another remembered wifi network.

 

[Subdiv]

Ah, ok, I didn't think you had, as you were questioning if the password was also replicated with the wifi profile. It obviously is, or my macbook wouldn't have been able to connect to the iPhone.

Hmm. It should work though. It's just another remembered wifi network.

Another thing I've noticed is that I have to connect to my iPhone with bluetooth enabled before I can use wifi only...seems that if I shut wifi and bluetooth off on the phone and then just turn wifi back on, the watch doesn't connect. Is it possible that it gets the remembered wifi credentials via bluetooth?

 

[fischersd]

Another thing I've noticed is that I have to connect to my iPhone with bluetooth enabled before I can use wifi only...seems that if I shut wifi and bluetooth off on the phone and then just turn wifi back on, the watch doesn't connect. Is it possible that it gets the remembered wifi credentials via bluetooth?

Are you sure about that? I could see having to enable bluetooth when you lose all connectivity to the watch from the iPhone (as a security feature - the handshake is likely only over bluetooth).

But, the watch shouldn't lose its remembered networks when away from the iPhone...it should connect to all of them fine.

 

[Subdiv]

Are you sure about that? I could see having to enable bluetooth when you lose all connectivity to the watch from the iPhone (as a security feature - the handshake is likely only over bluetooth).

But, the watch shouldn't lose its remembered networks when away from the iPhone...it should connect to all of them fine.

I've tried it a couple of times with the same result...okay, I'll send you my watch so you can prove me wrong.

 

[fischersd]

I've tried it a couple of times with the same result...okay, I'll send you my watch so you can prove me wrong.

I'll have to do some testing when I get mine. It'll be awhile (current ETA is July)

 

[Subdiv]

I'll have to do some testing when I get mine. It'll be awhile (current ETA is July)

Ouch!
I just got mine on Wednesday...I'll do some more experimenting over the weekend.

 

[Subdiv]

That's because the watch and phone are still communicating over the same wifi network, even without Bluetooth.

But if the phone and watch aren't on the same wifi network, the watch's functionality will go down. The watch doesn't have its own email client, etc., though it does have its own iMessage client.

I now realize that you are absolutely correct. I just shut my iPhone down and rebooted the watch. It connected to my wifi and I was able to use Siri.

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Are you sure about that? I could see having to enable bluetooth when you lose all connectivity to the watch from the iPhone (as a security feature - the handshake is likely only over bluetooth).

But, the watch shouldn't lose its remembered networks when away from the iPhone...it should connect to all of them fine.

Okay, I think I get it now. When you lose connection with the iPhone, the watch can still do the limited wifi features. However, it appears that in order to gain back full communications with the iPhone, you have to first enable bluetooth for the handshake...as you described. Sorry for the confusion.

 

[fischersd]

No worries. It's all good. This is new tech - we need to feel it out to see what all of the potential is with the current Watch OS.

 

[priscilla55]

As an aside, the one thing I bet doesn't work when you are on a known wifi connection and turn bluetooth off is getting or placing phone calls. Pretty sure that's a bluetooth function.

Not so - calls can go over wifi (if your phone is on the same network). It's hardly a surprise, it's been an available feature between Apple devices for the last year or so. I routinely take and initiate calls on my iPad which only has wifi turned on, not BT. The watch can do the same.