Keeping Tabs on Grandpa

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  1. Aeolius macrumors 6502a

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    This is creepy.

    Having every single thing monitored, right down to when you go drain, doesn't sound "independent" at all to me.
     
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    Beats the alternative, a nursing home. I'd be all for this if it meant I could stay at my house and die out of a medical facility.
     
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    I think this is a great thing for the elderly, as long as their private information is protected. Old folks on their own need to be looked after, it's just a fact of life. If it can be done cheaply, remotely and is proven effective, great! I would however, agree that it needs to be done openly and with the elder's permission. Consent and Privacy of Information are the only two pitfalls I see.
     
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    I believe you would think VERY differently if you had a grandparent in this situation. My grandmother was just placed into a nursing home with alzheimer's, and my grandfather refuses to go anywhere, even though he's barely mobile and recovering from quadruple bypass. If he falls, he is in trouble - BIG trouble. If this would have been an option for us, we'd have jumped in a heartbeat.
     
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    My grandmother died after nearly 20 years of suffering from Alzheimer's - but thanks anyway for playing. :mad: The family paid for an in-home caregiver for her.

    And no, I don't feel any differently.
     
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    Not all families have as much money as yours does. This more inexpensive option could help a lot of people, especially with the Baby Boomers coming of age.
     
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    My family doesn't have money. My mother has a lot of brothers and sisters, they all chipped in.

    In any event, your misdirected claim doesn't make me feel any less creeped out by the use of it.
     
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    Oh right. All elderly have lots of children that can "chip in.":rolleyes:

    You've never explained why you're creeped out, so I can't address that. As for the independence claim, being monitored is not the same as being helped. I watch people do things on their own all the time. Doesn't make their tasks any less independent.
     
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    Monitoring the entire house is just a way to take people's money.

    Just wire the individual for vital signs, and let them go potty in private.
     
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    But having a full time care giver nearly 24/7 cost an insane amount of money. Well above what most families could hope to afford and they are still monitor basicly at all times and they have less independents because they always have someone there.
    With the monitor system it looks for anomolies like them leaving the house. Not sleeping regularly. If they fall ect. It lets them still be nearly fully indepedent and not have someone always there but if something happens they will be safe.
    It is a much cheaper cost and less degrading to them than a nursing home.
     
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    I don't think the vitals would pick up on an Alzheimer's escape attempt. Maybe an increased heart rate when they should be sleeping, but just the vitals would leave an incomplete picture.
     
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    Not sure why you're rolling your eyes, but you're not really doing anything to convince me of anything by doing so.

    I didn't ask you to. You don't get to decide whether I'm creeped out by something.

    It absolutely does make someone less independent. You're depending on someone to watch you take a piss, in this case. That's not living independently, IMO.
     
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    That sounds like a very cool system. Have you been able to integrate an iPhone or iPod touch into it? Also seems like a mac Mini HTPC system might be in order.


    Somebody's cranky. Maybe a monitoring system would help?

    The dependence is on making sure the person has peed, not holding the persons "equipment."
     
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    This may be a good thing for some. How about a condo foreclosed upon and sold--and the new owner discovers a grisly surprise in the garage. No positive ID yet, but it could be the last owner--whom neighbors have said they haven't seen since August 2009. Sad indeed.

    http://www.wftv.com/news/25839830/detail.html
     
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    The man has plenty of money. He lives (possibly alone) in a 7500 sq ft house. 7500sqft!!! That is a HUGE house. The electric bill is most likely 3x to 4x more a month than the monitoring service. It's nice for those who can afford it.
     
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    Then they should not be living alone. Add a GPS ankle device, and that's covered too.

    Probably true, but I just rail at these attempts to get every damn thing wired.

    How soon before Government demands access to their service records??
     

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    It's just a super advanced "Life Alert". This beats a nursing home hands down and I argue it beats a caregiver too. If you are in a nursing home someone stands in the door way to make sure you piss okay and a caregiver does the same. A dot on a computer indicating what room you are in and for how long is loads better and a lot less creepy then someone watching you pee or shower.
     
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    "Hey, it's my shower. Get the **** out of here?? I'll do what I want. I've earned the right." :p
     
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    They're old, not under house arrest! :p
     
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    :p right back.

    The Internet started it's life as a military tool, and now look what we have become.
     
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    As long as you're up hill from the water flow I say, why not?! :p
     
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    Well, most tubs have a sufficient angle to allow the water to flow to the drain.

    Plus, peeing right on the drain saves your feet from contamination.

    But, urine has been known to have curative properties, just not against hang-nail.
     
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    Jellyfish in a Friends episode?
     

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