Kernel Panic on startup/OS install/hardware test

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  1. drennan macrumors member

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    I’ve got big problems with my powerbook. The only way I can interact with it is in single user mode and unfortunately I’m not familiar with the commands there. What happened so far is very complicated but please bear with me as several things may be relevant.

    I installed a 500gb firewire drive onto my powerbook and copied over a backup of my applications folder (40gb). Then I eventually made a copy of ‘disk’ on the fw drive (75gb) so I deleted the apps folder from the fw drive and the computer locked up on emptying trash. I held the power button down and on startup got the following restart message “you need to restart your computer. Hold down the power button for several seconds or press the restart button”. It then repeats the message in 3 other languages. I now know this to be a kernel panic.

    So I disconnected the fw drive. On reboot the same restart message came up. I went to reinstall os x from cd (via option key) but got same message. Restarted and ran hardware test from the cd which passed, restarted and the os booted up fine! Incase it was software/os related, I backed up and reinstalled os x. then rebooted twice during os x install everything is fine. <then spend 4 hours installing apps and tweaking system >.

    2 days later, I connected the fw drive and got the kernel panic again, disconnected fw drive, restarted, same kernel msg, ran hardware test and the trackpad wasn’t moving properly, it was sticking really badly. Managed to move mouse to run hardware test and trackpad failed. Rebooted, same kernel panic msg, hardware test now locks at logic board, 12 seconds (where trackpad first failed). So I can no longer get into the os and I have no way of reinstalling the os from cd on startup.

    Things I have tried. I cant screen dump so I’ll type what I think is relevant. Things resulting in grey apple screen, then kernel panic:

    Normal bootup
    Bootup from install cd
    shift boot (safe mode)
    C (boot from cd)

    Cmd V on startup tells me “Darwin Kernel Version 8.10.0: Wed May 23 16.60.59 PDT 2007; root:xnu-792.21.3-1/RELEASE_PPC panic: We are hanging here...
    Also unresolved kernel trap (cpu 0)
    Kernel loadable modules in backtrace (with dependencies) <list of com.apple files>
    Latest stack backtrace for cpu: 0

    I’ve tried:
    Cmd opt O F, Cmd opt P R - to reset PRAM and NVRAM, firmware.
    Went into single user mode - Ran fsck -f and filestructure ok, went to repair permissions in disk utility tool but got the error “cant create temp image”.
    There are about 20 options within disk utility to repair volume, erase disk etc. I’m not familiar with this environment but can I safely reformat my disk from here so it will boot from os x cd?

    So…. I cant install the os at the moment which seemed to resolve the kernel panic until I plugged in the fw drive again. Could the copy of “disk” on the fw drive have conflicted with system files on the powerbook disk? Could it be a firewire driver problem? Is this related to internal hardware as the trackpad failed in hardware test and I’m also getting kernel panic on startup, before the os loads presumably? Can I disable the trackpad from single user mode incase that’s causing it? I’ve got 512 RAM which I’ve been pushing lately (averaging 7mb free) could my memory have fried? Is there anything I can do to format the disk from a prompt and reinstall the OS?

    If anyone can suggest anything I’d be really grateful. I am lost for what to do and have looked at about a 100 web pages so far with no resolution. Thanks guys.

    dren.
     
  2. IJ Reilly macrumors P6

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    What method did you use to copy your old hard drive to your new one?
     
  3. drennan thread starter macrumors member

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    i just copied the disk and subfolders over to a directory on the fw disk incase i needed to retrieve any files or settings if something went wrong. I was planning to wipe and reinstall os x anyway so didn't want a live hd mirror at the time. could i format my pb disk and copy the fw backup over from a startup prompt?
     
  4. drennan thread starter macrumors member

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    It looks like this was a problem with my trackpad sensor. I'm not sure why the other stuff happened, looks like a coincidence. My local apple service centre just replaced the entire base cover and keyboard (£310) as the trackpad is integrated apparently. If anyone gets a similar kernel panic and the hardware test locks the machine up, i would say its definitely an internal hardware failure. seems obvious now but it was the other weird stuff that threw me. dren
     
  5. rodobrodo macrumors newbie

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    Kernel Panic At Startup Powerbook G4 17" 1.67 Osx 10.4.11

    Kernel Panic At Startup Powerbook G4 17" 1.67 Os X 10.4.11

    Good Day

    I left my laptop off for 3 months with no baterrie, duo a trip to EU, after trying to turn it on , I could not get pass by the Kernel display,
    I did backup my system through firewire as slave HD, I can start the computer holding down shift at startup, but then a few functions wont work, it is just the safe boot.

    I re-install my MAC OSX 10.4 then the up date to 10.4.11 but still no lock.

    I also try to connect it to the internet via ethernet cable but I guess it is disable.

    Still no lock , just try to Reset PRAM and NVRAM and I am still getting the kernel display,
    I also reset the PMU and still no lock

    but again if I try to turn it on holding shift , the computer start normally on safe boot , and it seems to have no hardware error what so ever.

    If anybody has any other ideias I am glad to try..


    Many Thanks

    rodobrodo@hotmail.com
     
  6. IJ Reilly macrumors P6

    IJ Reilly

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    Kernel panics at startup are nearly always hardware issues, often bad RAM.
     

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