Kernel Panicing issues, tearing my hair out!

Discussion in 'MacBook Pro' started by CarbonImage, Apr 27, 2012.

  1. CarbonImage macrumors newbie

    CarbonImage

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    #1
    Ok, so until recently I had a mid 2009 13" unibody 2.53GHz pro. In the last year or so I had a lot of issues with it kernel panicing under heavy load, when shutting down, or simply quitting some applications. I took it to Apple numerous times, each time they ran tests, wiped the system and library folders, then came a clean install, and the last time they offered to replace the Hard Drive for £250(!). I figured that seeing as my dad needed a new laptop I may as well treat myself and give my old one to him as he's not a heavy user.

    So that brings us to my current problem. My brand new 15" 2.2 i7 is doing the same thing. Except the kernel panics happen randomly. I haven't even had a chance to run the computer under any heavy load yet, and already it's done it to me 3 times this week. All three of these have been when just browsing the internet. I know if I take it to Apple I'm just going to get the same crap as last time, so does anybody have any sensible ideas as to what could be causing it? I haven't installed any pirated software, and when I check the bug report the only thing that I can decipher is something relating to Google Chrome, but I'm pretty sure that can't be the issue? It's driving me nuts, I just want to enjoy my brand new extortionately priced machine :(.

    TL;DR: Old laptop kept kernel panicing, bought new one, does it too.
     
  2. CarbonImage thread starter macrumors newbie

    CarbonImage

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    #3
    Apologies, but where would I find these once I have dismissed them after restarting the computer? I usually read them and then ignore, but in the past two cases I sent them to Apple for the hell of it.
     
  3. samac92 macrumors 6502a

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    #4
    "Mac OS X v10.5 and later

    If a kernel panic occurs, information is added to a log file in the folder /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports (Mac OS X v10.6), or /Library/Logs/PanicReporter (Mac OS X v10.5).

    The name of each log file in this location includes the date and time when the kernel panic was logged."

    From the third link :)
     
  4. CarbonImage thread starter macrumors newbie

    CarbonImage

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    #5
    Thanks man, must have missed that.

    Here is the first panic:


    Interval Since Last Panic Report: 81311 sec
    Panics Since Last Report: 1
    Anonymous UUID: BB07FB5E-4C05-4603-9226-662E6F27CA0B

    Mon Apr 23 22:44:38 2012
    panic(cpu 2 caller 0xffffff80002c266d): Kernel trap at 0xffffff7f809ad466, type 13=general protection, registers:
    CR0: 0x000000008001003b, CR2: 0x0000000109088868, CR3: 0x000000004a105013, CR4: 0x00000000000606e0
    RAX: 0xffffff800f99f300, RBX: 0x0000000000000000, RCX: 0x0000000001000000, RDX: 0x0000000000000000
    RSP: 0xffffff8079f23c30, RBP: 0xffffff8079f23c40, RSI: 0xffffff800e42fa00, RDI: 0xffffff800f99f600
    R8: 0x0000000000000028, R9: 0xffffff800f954580, R10: 0xfffffe80432994b8, R11: 0xffffff7f820b3254
    R12: 0x000000000000001e, R13: 0xffffff8014bcda00, R14: 0xffffff800e42fa00, R15: 0x0000000000000187
    RFL: 0x0000000000010246, RIP: 0xffffff7f809ad466, CS: 0x0000000000000008, SS: 0x0000000000000010
    CR2: 0x0000000109088868, Error code: 0x0000000000000000, Faulting CPU: 0x2

    Backtrace (CPU 2), Frame : Return Address
    0xffffff8079f238f0 : 0xffffff8000220702
    0xffffff8079f23970 : 0xffffff80002c266d
    0xffffff8079f23b10 : 0xffffff80002d7a1d
    0xffffff8079f23b30 : 0xffffff7f809ad466
    0xffffff8079f23c40 : 0xffffff7f820b329d
    0xffffff8079f23c60 : 0xffffff80005f2af4
    0xffffff8079f23c90 : 0xffffff80005f2c97
    0xffffff8079f23cb0 : 0xffffff800061ac7f
    0xffffff8079f23cd0 : 0xffffff800061acb6
    0xffffff8079f23cf0 : 0xffffff800029bdc7
    0xffffff8079f23d40 : 0xffffff8000223025
    0xffffff8079f23d70 : 0xffffff8000214829
    0xffffff8079f23dd0 : 0xffffff8000223193
    0xffffff8079f23df0 : 0xffffff80002516d9
    0xffffff8079f23e30 : 0xffffff800021992e
    0xffffff8079f23e80 : 0xffffff800021a17d
    0xffffff8079f23ec0 : 0xffffff8000237860
    0xffffff8079f23f00 : 0xffffff8000541579
    0xffffff8079f23f50 : 0xffffff800053f0ce
    0xffffff8079f23f60 : 0xffffff80005ca448
    0xffffff8079f23fb0 : 0xffffff80002d7f39
    Kernel Extensions in backtrace:
    com.apple.iokit.IOUSBFamily(4.5.8)[1FEB88C1-AD15-3AEF-8379-CA51810FD38E]@0xffffff7f809a4000->0xffffff7f809f2fff
    dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(2.6.8)[F63D4ABE-42DA-33EF-BADD-3415B0CB0179]@0xffffff7f80880000
    com.digidesign.mbox2.driver(8.0.3f1)[79C359D6-2842-CD0A-3834-EDCD1BB75760]@0xffffff7f820ae000->0xffffff7f820d8fff
    dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOAudioFamily(1.8.6fc6)[345E325F-3E96-3FEB-8C50-E446305F4ED8]@0xffffff7f812de000
    dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOUSBFamily(4.5.8)[1FEB88C1-AD15-3AEF-8379-CA51810FD38E]@0xffffff7f809a4000
    dependency: com.apple.driver.AppleUSBMergeNub(4.5.3)[2718B7DD-B8BD-3203-9194-E738F2951947]@0xffffff7f80aba000

    BSD process name corresponding to current thread: Google Chrome He

    Mac OS version:
    11D2001

    Kernel version:
    Darwin Kernel Version 11.3.0: Thu Jan 12 18:47:41 PST 2012; root:xnu-1699.24.23~1/RELEASE_X86_64
    Kernel UUID: 7B6546C7-70E8-3ED8-A6C3-C927E4D3D0D6
    System model name: MacBookPro8,2 (Mac-94245A3940C91C80)

    System uptime in nanoseconds: 34845170643967
    last loaded kext at 28407585210869: com.apple.filesystems.msdosfs 1.7.1 (addr 0xffffff7f80952000, size 57344)
    last unloaded kext at 28599186408243: com.apple.iokit.IOUSBMassStorageClass 3.0.1 (addr 0xffffff7f808af000, size 69632)
    loaded kexts:
    com.digidesign.mbox2.driver 8.0.3f1
    com.paceap.kext.pacesupport.snowleopard 5.7.2
    com.digidesign.iokit.DigiIO 8.0.3f1
    com.digidesign.iokit.DigiDal 8.0.3f1
    com.apple.filesystems.smbfs 1.7.0
    com.apple.driver.AppleHWSensor 1.9.4d0
    com.apple.filesystems.autofs 3.0
    com.apple.driver.AudioAUUC 1.59
    com.apple.driver.AGPM 100.12.42
    com.apple.driver.AppleMikeyHIDDriver 122
    com.apple.driver.AppleHDA 2.1.7f9
    com.apple.driver.AppleUpstreamUserClient 3.5.9
    com.apple.driver.AppleMCCSControl 1.0.26
    com.apple.driver.AppleMikeyDriver 2.1.7f9
    com.apple.kext.ATIFramebuffer 7.1.8
    com.apple.driver.AppleIntelHD3000Graphics 7.1.8
    com.apple.driver.SMCMotionSensor 3.0.1d2
    com.apple.iokit.IOUserEthernet 1.0.0d1
    com.apple.Dont_Steal_Mac_OS_X 7.0.0
    com.apple.driver.AppleSMCLMU 2.0.1d2
    com.apple.driver.AudioIPCDriver 1.2.2
    com.apple.driver.ACPI_SMC_PlatformPlugin 4.7.5d4
    com.apple.driver.AppleMuxControl 3.0.16
    com.apple.driver.AppleLPC 1.5.3
    com.apple.ATIRadeonX3000 7.1.8
    com.apple.driver.AppleUSBTCButtons 225.2
    com.apple.driver.AppleUSBTCKeyboard 225.2
    com.apple.driver.AppleIRController 312
    com.apple.iokit.SCSITaskUserClient 3.0.3
    com.apple.AppleFSCompression.AppleFSCompressionTypeDataless 1.0.0d1
    com.apple.AppleFSCompression.AppleFSCompressionTypeZlib 1.0.0d1
    com.apple.BootCache 33
    com.apple.driver.AppleSmartBatteryManager 161.0.0
    com.apple.iokit.IOAHCIBlockStorage 2.0.1
    com.apple.driver.AppleUSBHub 4.5.0
    com.apple.driver.AppleFWOHCI 4.8.9
    com.apple.driver.AirPort.Brcm4331 513.20.19
    com.apple.driver.AppleSDXC 1.1.4
    com.apple.iokit.AppleBCM5701Ethernet 3.0.8b2
    com.apple.driver.AppleEFINVRAM 1.5.0
    com.apple.driver.AppleUSBEHCI 4.5.8
    com.apple.driver.AppleACPIButtons 1.4
    com.apple.driver.AppleAHCIPort 2.2.0
    com.apple.driver.AppleRTC 1.4
    com.apple.driver.AppleHPET 1.6
    com.apple.driver.AppleSMBIOS 1.7
    com.apple.driver.AppleACPIEC 1.4
    com.apple.driver.AppleIntelCPUPowerManagementClient 167.3.0
    com.apple.driver.AppleAPIC 1.5
    com.apple.nke.applicationfirewall 3.2.30
    com.apple.security.quarantine 1.1
    com.apple.driver.AppleIntelCPUPowerManagement 167.3.0
    com.apple.kext.triggers 1.0
    com.apple.driver.AppleAVBAudio 1.0.0d11
    com.apple.driver.DspFuncLib 2.1.7f9
    com.apple.driver.AppleSMBusController 1.0.10d0
    com.apple.iokit.IOSurface 80.0
    com.apple.iokit.IOBluetoothSerialManager 4.0.3f12
    com.apple.iokit.IOSerialFamily 10.0.5
    com.apple.iokit.IOAVBFamily 1.0.0d22
    com.apple.iokit.IOFireWireIP 2.2.4
    com.apple.driver.AppleHDAController 2.1.7f9
    com.apple.iokit.IOHDAFamily 2.1.7f9
    com.apple.iokit.IOAudioFamily 1.8.6fc6
    com.apple.kext.OSvKernDSPLib 1.3
    com.apple.driver.ApplePolicyControl 3.0.16
    com.apple.driver.AppleSMC 3.1.1d8
    com.apple.driver.IOPlatformPluginFamily 4.7.5d4
    com.apple.driver.AppleSMBusPCI 1.0.10d0
    com.apple.driver.AppleGraphicsControl 3.0.16
    com.apple.driver.AppleBacklightExpert 1.0.3
    com.apple.iokit.IONDRVSupport 2.3.2
    com.apple.kext.ATI6000Controller 7.1.8
    com.apple.kext.ATISupport 7.1.8
    com.apple.driver.AppleIntelSNBGraphicsFB 7.1.8
    com.apple.iokit.IOGraphicsFamily 2.3.2
    com.apple.driver.BroadcomUSBBluetoothHCIController 4.0.3f12
    com.apple.driver.AppleUSBBluetoothHCIController 4.0.3f12
    com.apple.iokit.IOBluetoothFamily 4.0.3f12
    com.apple.driver.AppleThunderboltDPInAdapter 1.5.9
    com.apple.driver.AppleThunderboltDPAdapterFamily 1.5.9
    com.apple.driver.AppleThunderboltPCIDownAdapter 1.2.1
    com.apple.driver.AppleUSBMultitouch 227.1
    com.apple.iokit.IOUSBHIDDriver 4.4.5
    com.apple.driver.AppleUSBMergeNub 4.5.3
    com.apple.driver.AppleUSBComposite 4.5.8
    com.apple.iokit.IOSCSIMultimediaCommandsDevice 3.0.3
    com.apple.iokit.IOBDStorageFamily 1.6
    com.apple.iokit.IODVDStorageFamily 1.7
    com.apple.iokit.IOCDStorageFamily 1.7
    com.apple.driver.XsanFilter 403
    com.apple.driver.AppleThunderboltNHI 1.3.2
    com.apple.iokit.IOThunderboltFamily 1.7.4
    com.apple.iokit.IOAHCISerialATAPI 2.0.1
    com.apple.iokit.IOSCSIArchitectureModelFamily 3.0.3
    com.apple.iokit.IOUSBUserClient 4.5.8
    com.apple.iokit.IOFireWireFamily 4.4.5
    com.apple.iokit.IO80211Family 412.2
    com.apple.iokit.IOEthernetAVBController 1.0.0d5
    com.apple.iokit.IONetworkingFamily 2.0
    com.apple.iokit.IOUSBFamily 4.5.8
    com.apple.driver.AppleEFIRuntime 1.5.0
    com.apple.iokit.IOHIDFamily 1.7.1
    com.apple.iokit.IOAHCIFamily 2.0.7
    com.apple.iokit.IOSMBusFamily 1.1
    com.apple.security.sandbox 177.3
    com.apple.kext.AppleMatch 1.0.0d1
    com.apple.security.TMSafetyNet 7
    com.apple.driver.DiskImages 331.3
    com.apple.iokit.IOStorageFamily 1.7
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    com.apple.driver.AppleACPIPlatform 1.4
    com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily 2.6.8
    com.apple.iokit.IOACPIFamily 1.4
    System Profile:
    Model: MacBookPro8,2, BootROM MBP81.0047.B27, 4 processors, Intel Core i7, 2.2 GHz, 4 GB, SMC 1.69f3
    Graphics: AMD Radeon HD 6750M, AMD Radeon HD 6750M, PCIe, 512 MB
    Graphics: Intel HD Graphics 3000, Intel HD Graphics 3000, Built-In, 384 MB
    Memory Module: BANK 0/DIMM0, 2 GB, DDR3, 1333 MHz, 0x80AD, 0x484D54333235533643465238432D48392020
    Memory Module: BANK 1/DIMM0, 2 GB, DDR3, 1333 MHz, 0x80AD, 0x484D54333235533643465238432D48392020
    AirPort: spairport_wireless_card_type_airport_extreme (0x14E4, 0xD6), Broadcom BCM43xx 1.0 (5.100.98.75.19)
    Bluetooth: Version 4.0.3f12, 2 service, 11 devices, 1 incoming serial ports
    Network Service: Wi-Fi, AirPort, en1
    Serial ATA Device: APPLE HDD HTS547575A9E384, 750.16 GB
    Serial ATA Device: MATSHITADVD-R UJ-8A8
    USB Device: hub_device, 0x0424 (SMSC), 0x2513, 0xfa100000 / 3
    USB Device: Apple Internal Keyboard / Trackpad, apple_vendor_id, 0x0253, 0xfa120000 / 5
    USB Device: BRCM2070 Hub, 0x0a5c (Broadcom Corp.), 0x4500, 0xfa110000 / 4
    USB Device: Bluetooth USB Host Controller, apple_vendor_id, 0x821a, 0xfa113000 / 7
    USB Device: FaceTime HD Camera (Built-in), apple_vendor_id, 0x8509, 0xfa200000 / 2
    USB Device: hub_device, 0x0424 (SMSC), 0x2513, 0xfd100000 / 2
    USB Device: IR Receiver, apple_vendor_id, 0x8242, 0xfd110000 / 3

    ----------

    The second differs in that it relates to CPU 5 not 2, and is a 'type 14=page fault, registers'.

    The third is also type 14 but relates to CPU 2 again.
     
  5. simsaladimbamba

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    #6
    The "Backtrace" part is the important one:
    Code:
    Backtrace (CPU 2), Frame : Return Address
    0xffffff8079f238f0 : 0xffffff8000220702 
    0xffffff8079f23970 : 0xffffff80002c266d 
    0xffffff8079f23b10 : 0xffffff80002d7a1d 
    0xffffff8079f23b30 : 0xffffff7f809ad466 
    0xffffff8079f23c40 : 0xffffff7f820b329d 
    0xffffff8079f23c60 : 0xffffff80005f2af4 
    0xffffff8079f23c90 : 0xffffff80005f2c97 
    0xffffff8079f23cb0 : 0xffffff800061ac7f 
    0xffffff8079f23cd0 : 0xffffff800061acb6 
    0xffffff8079f23cf0 : 0xffffff800029bdc7 
    0xffffff8079f23d40 : 0xffffff8000223025 
    0xffffff8079f23d70 : 0xffffff8000214829 
    0xffffff8079f23dd0 : 0xffffff8000223193 
    0xffffff8079f23df0 : 0xffffff80002516d9 
    0xffffff8079f23e30 : 0xffffff800021992e 
    0xffffff8079f23e80 : 0xffffff800021a17d 
    0xffffff8079f23ec0 : 0xffffff8000237860 
    0xffffff8079f23f00 : 0xffffff8000541579 
    0xffffff8079f23f50 : 0xffffff800053f0ce 
    0xffffff8079f23f60 : 0xffffff80005ca448 
    0xffffff8079f23fb0 : 0xffffff80002d7f39 
    
    Kernel Extensions in backtrace:
    [Indent]com.apple.iokit.IOUSBFamily(4.5.8)[1FEB88C1-AD15-3AEF-8379-CA51810FD38E]@0xffffff7f809a4000->0xffffff7f809f2fff
    dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(2.6.8)[F63D4ABE-42DA-33EF-BADD-3415B0CB0179]@0xffffff7f80880000
    com.digidesign.mbox2.driver(8.0.3f1)[79C359D6-2842-CD0A-3834-EDCD1BB75760]@0xffffff7f820ae000->0xffffff7f820d8fff
    dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOAudioFamily(1.8.6fc6)[345E325F-3E96-3FEB-8C50-E446305F4ED8]@0xffffff7f812de000
    dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOUSBFamily(4.5.8)[1FEB88C1-AD15-3AEF-8379-CA51810FD38E]@0xffffff7f809a4000
    dependency: com.apple.driver.AppleUSBMergeNub(4.5.3)[2718B7DD-B8BD-3203-9194-E738F2951947]@0xffffff7f80aba000[/Indent]
    
    BSD process name corresponding to current thread: Google Chrome He
    
    Post the other two Backtrace parts and let's see, if MBox or Google Chrome or some USB device is responsible.

    And how often does it happen?
    I once had kernel panics twice a day, only a reinstall could fix that, since then (three/four months ago) I only had two KPs I can safely ignore.
     
  6. CarbonImage thread starter macrumors newbie

    CarbonImage

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    Mar 31, 2012
    #7
    Thanks mate! Well it only used to happen about once or twice a week on my old laptop, but that's because I was always conscious of having too many things open, and never shut it down. Now it's just happening randomly and as I've said, it's happened three times this week.

    I have a sneaking suspicion it might be to do with the mbox driver, which would not be cool as I use the mbox for my degree.

    here are the other two Backtraces:

    Code:
    Backtrace (CPU 5), Frame : Return Address
    0xffffff8079f438e0 : 0xffffff8000220702 
    0xffffff8079f43960 : 0xffffff80002c266d 
    0xffffff8079f43b00 : 0xffffff80002d7a1d 
    0xffffff8079f43b20 : 0x0 
    0xffffff8079f43c40 : 0xffffff7f810cf29d 
    0xffffff8079f43c60 : 0xffffff80005f2af4 
    0xffffff8079f43c90 : 0xffffff80005f2c97 
    0xffffff8079f43cb0 : 0xffffff800061ac7f 
    0xffffff8079f43cd0 : 0xffffff800061acb6 
    0xffffff8079f43cf0 : 0xffffff800029bdc7 
    0xffffff8079f43d40 : 0xffffff8000223025 
    0xffffff8079f43d70 : 0xffffff8000214829 
    0xffffff8079f43dd0 : 0xffffff8000223193 
    0xffffff8079f43df0 : 0xffffff80002516d9 
    0xffffff8079f43e30 : 0xffffff800021992e 
    0xffffff8079f43e80 : 0xffffff800021a17d 
    0xffffff8079f43ec0 : 0xffffff8000237860 
    0xffffff8079f43f00 : 0xffffff8000541579 
    0xffffff8079f43f50 : 0xffffff800053f0ce 
    0xffffff8079f43f60 : 0xffffff80005ca448 
    0xffffff8079f43fb0 : 0xffffff80002d7f39 
          Kernel Extensions in backtrace:
             com.digidesign.mbox2.driver(8.0.3f1)[79C359D6-2842-CD0A-3834-EDCD1BB75760]@0xffffff7f810ca000->0xffffff7f810f4fff
                dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOAudioFamily(1.8.6fc6)[345E325F-3E96-3FEB-8C50-E446305F4ED8]@0xffffff7f811eb000
                dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOUSBFamily(4.5.8)[1FEB88C1-AD15-3AEF-8379-CA51810FD38E]@0xffffff7f809a4000
                dependency: com.apple.driver.AppleUSBMergeNub(4.5.3)[2718B7DD-B8BD-3203-9194-E738F2951947]@0xffffff7f80aba000
    
    Code:
    
    Backtrace (CPU 2), Frame : Return Address
    0xffffff80807938e0 : 0xffffff8000220702 
    0xffffff8080793960 : 0xffffff80002c266d 
    0xffffff8080793b00 : 0xffffff80002d7a1d 
    0xffffff8080793b20 : 0x0 
    0xffffff8080793c40 : 0xffffff7f810cf29d 
    0xffffff8080793c60 : 0xffffff80005f2af4 
    0xffffff8080793c90 : 0xffffff80005f2c97 
    0xffffff8080793cb0 : 0xffffff800061ac7f 
    0xffffff8080793cd0 : 0xffffff800061acb6 
    0xffffff8080793cf0 : 0xffffff800029bdc7 
    0xffffff8080793d40 : 0xffffff8000223025 
    0xffffff8080793d70 : 0xffffff8000214829 
    0xffffff8080793dd0 : 0xffffff8000223193 
    0xffffff8080793df0 : 0xffffff80002516d9 
    0xffffff8080793e30 : 0xffffff800021992e 
    0xffffff8080793e80 : 0xffffff800021a17d 
    0xffffff8080793ec0 : 0xffffff8000237860 
    0xffffff8080793f00 : 0xffffff8000541579 
    0xffffff8080793f50 : 0xffffff800053f0ce 
    0xffffff8080793f60 : 0xffffff80005ca448 
    0xffffff8080793fb0 : 0xffffff80002d7f39 
          Kernel Extensions in backtrace:
             com.digidesign.mbox2.driver(8.0.3f1)[79C359D6-2842-CD0A-3834-EDCD1BB75760]@0xffffff7f810ca000->0xffffff7f810f4fff
                dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOAudioFamily(1.8.6fc6)[345E325F-3E96-3FEB-8C50-E446305F4ED8]@0xffffff7f811eb000
                dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOUSBFamily(4.5.8)[1FEB88C1-AD15-3AEF-8379-CA51810FD38E]@0xffffff7f809a4000
                dependency: com.apple.driver.AppleUSBMergeNub(4.5.3)[2718B7DD-B8BD-3203-9194-E738F2951947]@0xffffff7f80aba000
    
     
  7. simsaladimbamba

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    Location:
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    #8
    You missed this part:
    Does it also happen, when the MBox is not connected, or do you need it to be connected all day?
     
  8. CarbonImage thread starter macrumors newbie

    CarbonImage

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    #9
    Sorry, the BSD process is always Google Chrome He.

    Every time it has happened on the new laptop the MBox has not been connected as far as I recall. However on the old laptop I couldn't tell you. The MBox needs to be connected whenever I am doing any audio work, and also I use it to connect with my speakers so when I'm listening to music it's also connected.
     
  9. CarbonImage thread starter macrumors newbie

    CarbonImage

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    #10
    Just an update, it did it again today. Again unplugged from the MBox, and the panic log was largely the same as before, CPU 6 this time.
     
  10. CarbonImage thread starter macrumors newbie

    CarbonImage

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